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last night kicked off a month of agitation and provocation by the RCP front group, RefuseFascism , with the goal of generating so severe a political crisis that the "trump regime" will not be able to "take power" , which is stupid , because that's not the way things work in that trash pile on the potomac we call our ship of state.
jenny kastner, probably the world's leading authority on marxism and the true history of socialist revolutions, who has had her boots on the ground since the struggle that led to the 1964 civil rights act, took one look at these kids and called them "red squad", the undercovers the feds used to infiltrate in the vietnam war days to get people to do illegal things they could get arrested for. i think she's an incest survivor and just playing with a short deck. i leave further evaluation to the rest of you.
jenny also thinks Hillary, Inc. is behind it, hoping to get all the armed and inbred idiots of the yokel haram, alt right and neo-liberal fascist left to duke it out , so they can declare martial law and install hillary instead.
i have observed them at a number of actions now and there was one where there would have been violence if they had attacked anybody other than me in front of any other police department than tucson.
Tommie Jay Wasserberg
December 17 at 3:01pm ·
fear and loathing in the tucson "direct action" community.
Sal Amador Georgia Conroy Santana Savalas Sienna Pettigrew
this person just unloaded on me and when she couldn't refute my arguments rationally, she blocked me. i have put Erica Johnson on notice that she is never to come on my wall advocating for violence and i'm putting you all on notice that if i ever find myself in the middle of a riot at a demonstration, i'm headed for the nearest skank wearing piece of shit millennial moron and will to try to break his/her/their neck.
https://www.facebook.com/Absintheheart?fref=ufi
Erica Johnson Self defense is not violent. What is violent is telling oppressed folks to do nothing to the oppressor.
1
Tommie Jay Wasserberg do not mistake what i am saying as telling people to do nothing. that meme does not make me or anybody else envision "self defense" . it is a blatant call for vigilante justice, suggesting the abdication from the rule of law and extra judicial executions on the hearsay evidence of people claiming to have been raped .
Like · December 17 at 4:21pm
Santana Savalas Erica Johnson is my dear friend and i can testify to her fighting for justice ,as i have done before when you have recalled a small social conflict such as this one. you know where i stand Tommy ...1Love
Like · Reply · 1 · December 17 at 4:22pm
Tommie Jay Wasserberg to call this disagreement a "social conflict" is pretty amusing. this is a fundamental disagreement on the nature of the struggle for peace and freedom. i don't even know what erica johnson looks like because she has never introduced herself to me at peaceful assemblies we have both attended, completely ignoring my request that she do so at the federal building. she may have waved to me from behind a skank.
she and her allies are itching for violence and they're hiding behind masks. you know what i'm about and have been about all my life. i'm one of the first generation hippies and it's about peace, love and music. i have friends with grandchildren and great grandchildren y'all's age and that anonymous social justice warrior shit ain't where it's at with them. we show our faces and we don't empower violence at all. we realize the potential need to get violent in the defense of self and others, but we do not make that a rallying cry.
Like · Reply · 2 · December 17 at 4:31pm
Erica Johnson Hippies can be super reactionary. Does not mean your political line is advanced.
Reply · 2 · December 17 at 4:41pm
Tommie Jay Wasserberg violently so toward drainbows wearing skanks. go work on your logic a little, sweetie. i've made my points. you are just assailing my competence for making the assertions and tossing straw men around. www.yourlogicalfallacyis.com
Like · Reply · December 17 at 4:45pm · Edited
Erica Johnson You have little respect for political oppression experianced by those who actually oppose the state. You are a reactionary. Not a comrade who will defend the safety from rape with self defense.
Reply · 1 · December 17 at 4:49pm · Edited
Tommie Jay Wasserberg you are a hive minded misinformed millennial who can't argue rationally, spouting jingoistic nonsense your peerless leaders have imprinted on you. i'm not impressed and believe me sweetie, if a riot ever breaks out at a demonstration i'm in the middle of, i'm fighting my way out of it right through you skank wearing tools of some fascist asshole.
Like · Reply · December 17 at 4:56pm
Erica Johnson I'm not a millennial. Saw you used that to discredit and dehumanize kitty, and with the name called. You are useing tools that abusers use. Whatever. Your political line is problematic. Also fuck fascist. If you continue to believe you are super advanced, and refuse to listen to other oppressed people, you will not grow. You really think you know it all?
Reply · December 17 at 5:06pm · Edited
Tommie Jay Wasserberg whatever you identify as, i don't give a shit. your political line is seditious. you are seeking a violent overthrow of the state. i cannot and will not countenance that. i am a child of the earth and patriot to the constitution that was based on the iroquois confederation charter.
i do not oppose the state. i oppose the illegal junta empowered by the november 22 coup that is abusing the power of their elected authority to manifest a destiny for the nation that is not in it's best interests.
you are spouting tired old rhetoric that most people in my political circles have disregarded for the past 53 years. nothing wrong with the system, sweetie. it's the people at the controls who are the problem.
Like · Reply · December 17 at 5:51pm · Edited
Erica Johnson Being a capitalist is the problematic political line. If you are not for the removal of this destructive and abusive system you are in direct support of oppression.
Reply · December 17 at 5:21pm
Erica Johnson The state is extreamly violent to mainstain control.
Reply · December 17 at 5:22pm
Tommie Jay Wasserberg blah, blah. same tired old crap you people have been spouting for the past 50 years. i see nothing wrong with fair trade capitalism so long as there is regulatory authority to maintain a level playing field for the small business person against the corporations.
your time and energy is much better spent directly lobbying the legislators and participating in public hearings than raging against the machine waving signs at motorists or marching past empty buildings chanting slogans. this is a government of the people, and for the people. if the government is not performing up to the expectations of the people, the people have nobody to blame but themselves. still don't like it? then run for office instead of just running your mouth.
Like · Reply · December 17 at 5:50pm · Edited
Santana Savalas The system is broken
Like · Reply · 1 · December 17 at 5:54pm
Santana Savalas I truly wish it was of the People and for the people but it is not
Like · Reply · 1 · December 17 at 5:54pm
Tommie Jay Wasserberg Santana Savalas not yet, amigo. it was mortally wounded in dealey plaza, but it hasn't bled completely out yet. there are plenty of pockets of resistance to the industrial fascism of the banker gangsters. there are going to be millions of dead first nations people, rainbow hippies and veterans for peace before full blown authoritarianism ever really takes hold here.
Like · Reply · 1 · December 17 at 5:58pm
Eric Bagai Our government structure is pretty good and remarkably stable. But if we put bad people in power, and do not remove them, allow bad laws to be enacted and enforced, and do not remove them, then WE are the problem with democracy in the U.S.
We almost had Bernie, but we lost hope and we lost him. It's time to rise up again, and refuse to obey or participate in Trump's tyranny, deny him our obedience, and prepare to take back our country. Peacefully but not necessarily quietly, with or without Bernie.
Unlike · Reply · 2 · December 17 at 6:02pm · Edited
Erica Johnson Capitalism is abuseive, destructive, and oppressive. It is not pretty good at anything except exploitation and death.
Reply · December 17 at 7:22pm · Edited
Tommie Jay Wasserberg i am really heartened and proud to find myself still alive, still on that long winding road in the company of so many kindred spirits with a commonly held best case scenario vision and the courage and integrity to openly speak their minds in the public forum, Eric.
the people united can never be defeated , but the people deceived can never be united. fear and loathing must be replaced with love and acceptance. there is no other way but to patient and tolerant with each other and completely reject the dead end judeo-christian imperialist colonialism.
i hope you're being a little presumptuous about trump's tyranny. i'm also hoping the grand cheetoh realizes he can't just give orders and build a wall like he can at the trump tower. me and my peers have always recognized that the tree bears more fruit when you work with city hall , instead of fighting against it , to cultivate it. i've put my trust in the checks and balances all these years and i see a lot of fruit ripening with the solidarity generated by bernie and the response to the call of the first nations people at standing rock and elsewhere.
you're starting to sound like a parrot, Erica. you want to trade jingoisms? communism inevitably leads to authoritarianism. violent regime change inevitably results in a new regime that is equally oppressive.
Eric Bagai I'm tired, and the term hasn't even started.
Unlike · Reply · 1 · December 17 at 6:45pm
Eric Bagai FWIW, I'm an an incremental anarchist. So I'll support any and all good steps (and good people) along the way.
Like · Reply · 1 · December 17 at 6:47pm · Edited
Erica Johnson Anarchist are not for capitalism.
Reply · December 17 at 7:36pm · Edited
Tommie Jay Wasserberg Erica Johnson there are anarcho capitalists. at it's essence, that is the american system in theory. unfortunately, in practice, we've been duped by a bunch of mostly white industrial fascists.
Like · Reply · December 17 at 9:26pm · Edited
Erica Johnson An ancap is like non-dairy milk. An oxymoron. Anarchism does not support capitalism or the state.
Reply · December 17 at 9:27pm
Tommie Jay Wasserberg Erica Johnson do you have any original thoughts of your own? you sound like a drone, parroting some failed revolutionary's nonsense. i doubt you really even know what anarchism is actually about. it doesn't mean no rules and it doesn't actually advocate for a completely stateless society at some level of the discussion.
you passionate FTP punk ass anonymous social justice warriors are talking the same misinformed mumbo jumbo they did in the 60's. bunch of fucking emo kids too, that freak out like they've been personally attacked any time any body challenges their BS (belief systems) .
the kind of anarchism you and your "comrades" espouse is just fine for you kiddies to go run off on a piece of land somewhere far from a large population center, but it's not going to work in a town of any size.
Like · Reply · December 17 at 9:34pm
Eric Bagai I said 'incremental'. You don't get from one system to another in a single leap or a revolution. Anarchism is like polyamory: it takes an incredible amount of organizing and scheduling, and it's emotionally draining. And unlike Libertarianism, you really do have to care about everyone and genuinely try to understand their needs and concerns, even when they don't.
Like · Reply · December 17 at 11:57pm · Edited
Tommie Jay Wasserberg i don't think we need to repair the system so much as depose the junta that's taken over and shore up some of the protections for marginalized minorities.
Like · Reply · December 17 at 11:53pm
Eric Bagai That would be good, Tommie, but cultivating an educated political class, maintaining institutional memory, and weeding out the chaff is also needed. It's a full time job for a full time citizenry. Until we get that, it may not matter what form of government we have.
Like · Reply · December 18 at 12:01am
Tommie Jay Wasserberg you're describing the recovery process. i've been harping on people to get involved in the process for years. you can't just vote for some schmuck and expect them to act on behalf of their constituency if the only people getting involved in the legislative process are the corporate lobbyists.
Like · Reply · December 18 at 12:06am
Eric Bagai Yep, he said, as minimally mainsplaining as possible.
Unlike · Reply · 1 · December 18 at 12:08am
Tommie Jay Wasserberg you need to do that nowadays. nobody is seeing anything but pictures and headlines any more and reacting to that. write out a couple of paragraphs and they react to something in it with an ad hominem fallacy attacking you or your source's credibility along with a posse of straw men or a school of red herrings to validate their own BS (belief system)
Like · Reply · December 18 at 12:12am · Edited
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https://www.facebook.com/sal.amador?fref=ts#
Justin Ullman Tommie you are now a known counter revolutionary and rapist sympathizer.
You have posted publicly that you will violently oppose the masses struggle for liberation.
I hope I am near you during a riot.
1 · December 18 at 11:15am · Edited
Tommie Jay Wasserberg lol. would you like to bring that threat to my door, you ignorant neo-liberal fascist punk ass bitch who hides behind a skank?
you are not in need of liberation and thankfully the mass of your movement is now and always has been miniscule.
Like · 14 hrs · Edited
Tommie Jay Wasserberg sal. these two people are associated with the RCP and are advocating things that i cannot endorse and will oppose vigorously. i have already blocked them. if you are committed to supporting their agenda, please block me.
jenny kastner, probably the world's leading authority on marxism and the true history of socialist revolutions, who has had her boots on the ground since the struggle that led to the 1964 civil rights act, took one look at these kids and called them "red squad", the undercovers the feds used to infiltrate in the vietnam war days to get people to do illegal things they could get arrested for. i think she's an incest survivor and just playing with a short deck. i leave further evaluation to the rest of you.
jenny also thinks Hillary, Inc. is behind it, hoping to get all the armed and inbred idiots of the yokel haram, alt right and neo-liberal fascist left to duke it out , so they can declare martial law and install hillary instead.
i have observed them at a number of actions now and there was one where there would have been violence if they had attacked anybody other than me in front of any other police department than tucson.
Tommie Jay Wasserberg
December 17 at 3:01pm ·
fear and loathing in the tucson "direct action" community.
Sal Amador Georgia Conroy Santana Savalas Sienna Pettigrew
this person just unloaded on me and when she couldn't refute my arguments rationally, she blocked me. i have put Erica Johnson on notice that she is never to come on my wall advocating for violence and i'm putting you all on notice that if i ever find myself in the middle of a riot at a demonstration, i'm headed for the nearest skank wearing piece of shit millennial moron and will to try to break his/her/their neck.
https://www.facebook.com/Absintheheart?fref=ufi
Erica Johnson Self defense is not violent. What is violent is telling oppressed folks to do nothing to the oppressor.
1
Tommie Jay Wasserberg do not mistake what i am saying as telling people to do nothing. that meme does not make me or anybody else envision "self defense" . it is a blatant call for vigilante justice, suggesting the abdication from the rule of law and extra judicial executions on the hearsay evidence of people claiming to have been raped .
Like · December 17 at 4:21pm
Santana Savalas Erica Johnson is my dear friend and i can testify to her fighting for justice ,as i have done before when you have recalled a small social conflict such as this one. you know where i stand Tommy ...1Love
Like · Reply · 1 · December 17 at 4:22pm
Tommie Jay Wasserberg to call this disagreement a "social conflict" is pretty amusing. this is a fundamental disagreement on the nature of the struggle for peace and freedom. i don't even know what erica johnson looks like because she has never introduced herself to me at peaceful assemblies we have both attended, completely ignoring my request that she do so at the federal building. she may have waved to me from behind a skank.
she and her allies are itching for violence and they're hiding behind masks. you know what i'm about and have been about all my life. i'm one of the first generation hippies and it's about peace, love and music. i have friends with grandchildren and great grandchildren y'all's age and that anonymous social justice warrior shit ain't where it's at with them. we show our faces and we don't empower violence at all. we realize the potential need to get violent in the defense of self and others, but we do not make that a rallying cry.
Like · Reply · 2 · December 17 at 4:31pm
Erica Johnson Hippies can be super reactionary. Does not mean your political line is advanced.
Reply · 2 · December 17 at 4:41pm
Tommie Jay Wasserberg violently so toward drainbows wearing skanks. go work on your logic a little, sweetie. i've made my points. you are just assailing my competence for making the assertions and tossing straw men around. www.yourlogicalfallacyis.com
Like · Reply · December 17 at 4:45pm · Edited
Erica Johnson You have little respect for political oppression experianced by those who actually oppose the state. You are a reactionary. Not a comrade who will defend the safety from rape with self defense.
Reply · 1 · December 17 at 4:49pm · Edited
Tommie Jay Wasserberg you are a hive minded misinformed millennial who can't argue rationally, spouting jingoistic nonsense your peerless leaders have imprinted on you. i'm not impressed and believe me sweetie, if a riot ever breaks out at a demonstration i'm in the middle of, i'm fighting my way out of it right through you skank wearing tools of some fascist asshole.
Like · Reply · December 17 at 4:56pm
Erica Johnson I'm not a millennial. Saw you used that to discredit and dehumanize kitty, and with the name called. You are useing tools that abusers use. Whatever. Your political line is problematic. Also fuck fascist. If you continue to believe you are super advanced, and refuse to listen to other oppressed people, you will not grow. You really think you know it all?
Reply · December 17 at 5:06pm · Edited
Tommie Jay Wasserberg whatever you identify as, i don't give a shit. your political line is seditious. you are seeking a violent overthrow of the state. i cannot and will not countenance that. i am a child of the earth and patriot to the constitution that was based on the iroquois confederation charter.
i do not oppose the state. i oppose the illegal junta empowered by the november 22 coup that is abusing the power of their elected authority to manifest a destiny for the nation that is not in it's best interests.
you are spouting tired old rhetoric that most people in my political circles have disregarded for the past 53 years. nothing wrong with the system, sweetie. it's the people at the controls who are the problem.
Like · Reply · December 17 at 5:51pm · Edited
Erica Johnson Being a capitalist is the problematic political line. If you are not for the removal of this destructive and abusive system you are in direct support of oppression.
Reply · December 17 at 5:21pm
Erica Johnson The state is extreamly violent to mainstain control.
Reply · December 17 at 5:22pm
Tommie Jay Wasserberg blah, blah. same tired old crap you people have been spouting for the past 50 years. i see nothing wrong with fair trade capitalism so long as there is regulatory authority to maintain a level playing field for the small business person against the corporations.
your time and energy is much better spent directly lobbying the legislators and participating in public hearings than raging against the machine waving signs at motorists or marching past empty buildings chanting slogans. this is a government of the people, and for the people. if the government is not performing up to the expectations of the people, the people have nobody to blame but themselves. still don't like it? then run for office instead of just running your mouth.
Like · Reply · December 17 at 5:50pm · Edited
Santana Savalas The system is broken
Like · Reply · 1 · December 17 at 5:54pm
Santana Savalas I truly wish it was of the People and for the people but it is not
Like · Reply · 1 · December 17 at 5:54pm
Tommie Jay Wasserberg Santana Savalas not yet, amigo. it was mortally wounded in dealey plaza, but it hasn't bled completely out yet. there are plenty of pockets of resistance to the industrial fascism of the banker gangsters. there are going to be millions of dead first nations people, rainbow hippies and veterans for peace before full blown authoritarianism ever really takes hold here.
Like · Reply · 1 · December 17 at 5:58pm
Eric Bagai Our government structure is pretty good and remarkably stable. But if we put bad people in power, and do not remove them, allow bad laws to be enacted and enforced, and do not remove them, then WE are the problem with democracy in the U.S.
We almost had Bernie, but we lost hope and we lost him. It's time to rise up again, and refuse to obey or participate in Trump's tyranny, deny him our obedience, and prepare to take back our country. Peacefully but not necessarily quietly, with or without Bernie.
Unlike · Reply · 2 · December 17 at 6:02pm · Edited
Erica Johnson Capitalism is abuseive, destructive, and oppressive. It is not pretty good at anything except exploitation and death.
Reply · December 17 at 7:22pm · Edited
Tommie Jay Wasserberg i am really heartened and proud to find myself still alive, still on that long winding road in the company of so many kindred spirits with a commonly held best case scenario vision and the courage and integrity to openly speak their minds in the public forum, Eric.
the people united can never be defeated , but the people deceived can never be united. fear and loathing must be replaced with love and acceptance. there is no other way but to patient and tolerant with each other and completely reject the dead end judeo-christian imperialist colonialism.
i hope you're being a little presumptuous about trump's tyranny. i'm also hoping the grand cheetoh realizes he can't just give orders and build a wall like he can at the trump tower. me and my peers have always recognized that the tree bears more fruit when you work with city hall , instead of fighting against it , to cultivate it. i've put my trust in the checks and balances all these years and i see a lot of fruit ripening with the solidarity generated by bernie and the response to the call of the first nations people at standing rock and elsewhere.
you're starting to sound like a parrot, Erica. you want to trade jingoisms? communism inevitably leads to authoritarianism. violent regime change inevitably results in a new regime that is equally oppressive.
Eric Bagai I'm tired, and the term hasn't even started.
Unlike · Reply · 1 · December 17 at 6:45pm
Eric Bagai FWIW, I'm an an incremental anarchist. So I'll support any and all good steps (and good people) along the way.
Like · Reply · 1 · December 17 at 6:47pm · Edited
Erica Johnson Anarchist are not for capitalism.
Reply · December 17 at 7:36pm · Edited
Tommie Jay Wasserberg Erica Johnson there are anarcho capitalists. at it's essence, that is the american system in theory. unfortunately, in practice, we've been duped by a bunch of mostly white industrial fascists.
Like · Reply · December 17 at 9:26pm · Edited
Erica Johnson An ancap is like non-dairy milk. An oxymoron. Anarchism does not support capitalism or the state.
Reply · December 17 at 9:27pm
Tommie Jay Wasserberg Erica Johnson do you have any original thoughts of your own? you sound like a drone, parroting some failed revolutionary's nonsense. i doubt you really even know what anarchism is actually about. it doesn't mean no rules and it doesn't actually advocate for a completely stateless society at some level of the discussion.
you passionate FTP punk ass anonymous social justice warriors are talking the same misinformed mumbo jumbo they did in the 60's. bunch of fucking emo kids too, that freak out like they've been personally attacked any time any body challenges their BS (belief systems) .
the kind of anarchism you and your "comrades" espouse is just fine for you kiddies to go run off on a piece of land somewhere far from a large population center, but it's not going to work in a town of any size.
Like · Reply · December 17 at 9:34pm
Eric Bagai I said 'incremental'. You don't get from one system to another in a single leap or a revolution. Anarchism is like polyamory: it takes an incredible amount of organizing and scheduling, and it's emotionally draining. And unlike Libertarianism, you really do have to care about everyone and genuinely try to understand their needs and concerns, even when they don't.
Like · Reply · December 17 at 11:57pm · Edited
Tommie Jay Wasserberg i don't think we need to repair the system so much as depose the junta that's taken over and shore up some of the protections for marginalized minorities.
Like · Reply · December 17 at 11:53pm
Eric Bagai That would be good, Tommie, but cultivating an educated political class, maintaining institutional memory, and weeding out the chaff is also needed. It's a full time job for a full time citizenry. Until we get that, it may not matter what form of government we have.
Like · Reply · December 18 at 12:01am
Tommie Jay Wasserberg you're describing the recovery process. i've been harping on people to get involved in the process for years. you can't just vote for some schmuck and expect them to act on behalf of their constituency if the only people getting involved in the legislative process are the corporate lobbyists.
Like · Reply · December 18 at 12:06am
Eric Bagai Yep, he said, as minimally mainsplaining as possible.
Unlike · Reply · 1 · December 18 at 12:08am
Tommie Jay Wasserberg you need to do that nowadays. nobody is seeing anything but pictures and headlines any more and reacting to that. write out a couple of paragraphs and they react to something in it with an ad hominem fallacy attacking you or your source's credibility along with a posse of straw men or a school of red herrings to validate their own BS (belief system)
Like · Reply · December 18 at 12:12am · Edited
.
https://www.facebook.com/sal.amador?fref=ts#
Justin Ullman Tommie you are now a known counter revolutionary and rapist sympathizer.
You have posted publicly that you will violently oppose the masses struggle for liberation.
I hope I am near you during a riot.
1 · December 18 at 11:15am · Edited
Tommie Jay Wasserberg lol. would you like to bring that threat to my door, you ignorant neo-liberal fascist punk ass bitch who hides behind a skank?
you are not in need of liberation and thankfully the mass of your movement is now and always has been miniscule.
Like · 14 hrs · Edited
Tommie Jay Wasserberg sal. these two people are associated with the RCP and are advocating things that i cannot endorse and will oppose vigorously. i have already blocked them. if you are committed to supporting their agenda, please block me.
