Victor Markhoff / Ana Victoria Markhoff / vvictorman_uel - Powerchair faker pooner, has every illness, allergic to Krebs cycle, bed mayo enjoyer, kicked out of house and mental hospital, constant ebeggar, applesauce heiress paid to yeet her teets

You know, I'm going to edit this to add another reason.

The women who do this, nearly universally, husband or not, came from girls who were not expected to contribute to household operations.

Instead, they were told to focus on artistic or expressive pursuits, and not dirty their hands with the dishes or the mopping or the laundry. Keep your eyes on your gymnastics, your ballet, your violin, your engineering projects. Whatever it was.

Having everything else taken off your plate so you can engage with the activities you're passionate about...indulgent parents love to do this, as do the ones who love to keep up with the Joneses, because these kids inevitably do go further than they otherwise would have in their extracurricular interests.

And then they become failures to thrive, because every young adult (even those who become ballerinas and concert violinists and engineers) needs to spend a huge amount of life doing boring maintenance tasks, managing their own schedule, and so on.

So many of the ME/CFS crowd are people who, for decades, always had the sensation of growth and development in their areas of passion, and then a year or two of attempting to grow up, followed by collapse. Once the maintenance tasks of life are no longer novel, interesting "I'm adulting, ha ha!" accomplishments, they can't maintain interest. They were never taught that you have duties to your household, to other people. They were told their only duty was to their own nascent potential.
To add to this, I think part of it is also a problem of expectations.

Self-diagnosis plays a huge part in munchie communities, and I think we have a major problem these days with people (especially young people) diagnosing themselves with things without really understanding how that diagnosis differs from normal human experience.

When it comes to these generalized “I’m tired and uncomfortable” disorders, I think a lot of the sort of people you describe simply don’t understand that yes, all those maintenance tasks you have to do can be mentally and physically tiring and drain your motivation. That’s something a lot of people experience, and just because others take it in stride and aren’t constantly complaining about it doesn’t mean they aren't feeling it.
 
I'm convinced there used to be far more outlets for this kind of stuff. Religion, for example. Women who were bored or sick of their screaming kids could withdraw from the world and start going crazy for
@behindyourightnow Julie Bindel talked about this an article somewhere, I've been looking for it but can't find it. She was talking about transgender social contagion specifically. She said something about how her psychiatrist friend talked to her about how they have plenty of cases of people on record of dying of shame or a broken heart and we just don't have that any more and need to express the same heightened emotions in other ways.
"Abandoned By All,' or skogsfrun13, is obviously a piece of work.

But at least this is her last tweet, so maybe the universe does ok after all.
Fucked up the quoting. I really hope there are more updates on her though. What is atty?
Side note, but I saw this chick in the DID Reddit who bombed a job interview and blamed one of her alters. I’m gonna try that one, I think.
how can alters tell you what happened in the interview, and if they didn't, who did? either you're not aware of what your alter does or you are and they can communicate directly with you / you can 'hear' them and you them. Who told her what happened in the interview??
 
dying of shame or a broken heart and we just don't have that any more
Takotsubo cardiomyopathy has a name now, but it's still the same phenomenon. People stopped dying of Bright's Disease when diagnostic testing improved and nephropathies could be differentiated, but they didn't stop dying of nephropathy (until treatment improved too).

I think one difference, besides medicine ruining the mystery while it improved mortality, is that there aren't as many ways to remove yourself from the world. Throwing yourself into religion, for most people, means keeping up with your normal life plus additional responsibilities; there's no modern way to ditch the kids and the job and become a hermit or a cenobite. They screen for that now.

What is atty?
I figured "attorney," especially because it was in the same sentence as "fees." Curious what the attorney was charging her for that suicide was a preferable option to paying, but suicide threats are pretty common with these people.
 
They screen for that now.
In depth debt and credit vetting to become a monk. (:_( I've helped boost a lot of fundraisers to that end. I fully support any broke-ass nigga who wants to opt out of Clown World in a non-self-destructive way doing so. Smart move, sometimes wish I'd done it myself.
 
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Also I am 10% convinced after what I posted earlier that all the fundraisers I’m seeing on Vicky’s account related to tinu (dead) are also scams.
 
I think Morgellon's didn't take off as much as it could because of Matchbox Sign. If you're saying you have a mysterious medical problem that The Establishment wants to cover up--OK, plausible, plenty of people are interested, go on.

But "...and these are the worms I pulled out of my skin to prove it!" immediately puts you with the "alien implant" people and the people who take pictures of sloughed intestinal wall from bleach enemas and call them "worms." Those people have communities, but they stay much smaller than even the communities of people with completely invisible symptoms. You have to get people in really deep before they accept poop photos.
I just googled it cause it's been a while - I wondered what is out there about it now vs when Joni spilled her pocket spaghetti - and the Mayo Clinic redirects to "delusional parasitosis." They're no fun anymore.

But! There are also articles that claim a link between ticks and Morgellons, which I just love. From fake shit like Morgellons and chronic Lyme to real horrors like Alpha-gal Syndrome and, well, real Lyme, what CAN'T ticks do?
 
"it was only when I realized I couldn't win the game and quit that I was safe"

I immediately heard Archer in my head.

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Are we watching the beginning of a suicide baiting arc? Was thinking the other day that at least, baiting is one thing that Vicky doesn’t do.

But maybe YT got her inspired, because she posted this yesterday:

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Fucking lol at the dweeb next to her in his mask
Imagine virtue signalling this hard this long after the coof and all it results in is you doing the virgin part of the virgin vs Chad meme in your milestone photos
To be fair to the little dude, he might have a neurotic upper-class Munchie mother obsessed with long COVID—like Taylor Lorenz, if she could actually convince some poor sap to make a baby with her—who would flip the fuck out if she saw the photo and he wasn't wearing a mask. Might explain his despondent expression (lol).

Lol imagine being so un-manlike that no one even cares you borderline sexually harassed a doctor
I never thought about it until now, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Victoria is a virgin. She pooned out early enough that her physical appearance will have driven off all but the most desperate of coomers, and her personality will drive them rest of them off. Too bad she's pretty much ensured that nobody of either sex will ever want to touch her for the rest of her life, between the effects of the testosterone, the zippertits, and her repulsive hygiene. Good thing she's "ace", I guess. (lol)

Maybe she’d start wearing wigs…
Lol, I could absolutely see her doing this and trying to claim it's part of her Jewish heritage or something. "It's not a wig, it's a sheitel, just like mi abuela used to wear!"

Turns out, it's getting hard out there for woke ebeggars. Just being a POC or disabled or trans isn't enough anymore, you really have to stand out, which means finding increasingly boutique identity niches that no one else around you is occupying. Like "black enby niqabi trafficking survivor":
To be fair, I'd be inclined to believe that a black African Muslim woman was in fact a victim of human trafficking. (lol)

Yeah, I'm saying it: let's dust off those anchorite cells and help these people go full Julian of Norwich. Culture-bound syndromes have culture-bound solutions.
I'm convinced there used to be far more outlets for this kind of stuff. Religion, for example. Women who were bored or sick of their screaming kids could withdraw from the world and start going crazy for Jesus or throw themselves into religious trances or just start spending all their time at church (yes, I am aware there is a subset of religious munchies, but I still think it's an outlet that prevents a lot of cases).
For real. I'm not at all religious, but I can't help but think that getting sent off to a convent for a year or two of ora et labora would be just the thing for a lot of these girls. No Internet connection, a daily assignment of chores, and being forced to contemplate something greater than themselves could only be salutary.
 
You guys are very funny with thinking that women just had a grand old time, not working and just chilling while the husbands worked hard all day.

Read some old books, old newspaper articles, listen to historical videos, read old laws, etc., about how life was for women and how they were treated. This tradwife fantasy you see on youtube is only possible in the privileged world we live in nowadays, with plenty of laws offering women financial independence, protection and many rights they did not have before (protection and rights trans activists fight to destroy), and the technology that provides comfortable solutions which makes doing the house chores exceedingly easier and less time consuming, be connected to the big world from your home and earn money with it - again, financial independence (tradwives make money from their YouTube channels and other media promoting their tradwife lifestyle, pretending they are uwu small little wives while making plenty of money out if it. Be certain they secure financial independence for themselves. These actual traditional wives didn't have all that).

Nothing was easy nor glamorous about being a wife who had to take care of the household and the children in an era that didn't have washing machine, food delivery and microwaves, cheap clothes to buy at every corner, epidural and the medicine we have today, disposable diapers, formula and breast pumps, running water even, trying to fit it all with the budget that is the pocket money her husband gives her, not being able to study, not being able to travel on her own, not being able to vote, stripped of agency, considered silly goose, because she were not versed in the serious men world she was not allowed access too, and in some cases, actively encouraged to act like that, at least until she catches a man. These who had time busied themselves with things like knitting patterns and tea parties, things which men looked down on and regard as frivolous nonsense.

Couldn't be financially independent, couldn't work, couldn't control when and if they want to get pregnant, rape in marriage wasn't a thing and women were basically had to put out and shut up, living a life of glorified subservience, were completely dependent on these husbands, who were not always very successful, bright, kind. Violence against women was more common, and women were often belittled and their occupations and interests - which were all they were allowed to do - were disregarded as unimportant and inane. Couldn't study, or were limited to very specific fields, couldn't work "outside" jobs like men or travel like they did, or enjoy a cigar and alcohol outside and talk about business and politics in the company of their peers. Very little agency.

By the way, women in more poor or/and rural places or background did and do work outside home, low status, physical demanding and low earning jobs if there was any earning at all. Working at the fields, selling fish, making food for the men who mostly sit down and socialize (see tribes in Africa), and in more dire situations, have no choice but selling their bodies (again some godforsaken places in Africa). Look at places like Africa or other third world countries and some developing countries as well, and tell me how easy it is to be a woman. Seriously, where do you come up with this shit.

I swear I'll stop harping on her supposed Judaism for a while after this, I just can't help myself - did she mention anything about Yom Kippur that occurred a few days ago, the most important holiday and day in the Jewish faith basically? A day in which you are supposed to do some soul-searching and ask forgiveness of other people? Anything at all? lmao.
 
You guys are very funny with thinking that women just had a grand old time, not working and just chilling while the husbands worked hard all day.

I'm not sure who you're replying to, but I haven't seen anyone here suggest that women in the past had it easy and lounged around all day. The point isn't that these girls' lives are hard (most of them are ridiculously spoiled, like Victoria), the point is that there used to be more varied outlets and coping mechanisms for crazy or neurotic women (at least the upper-class ones) and now there are not.

Munchies and other similar crazies can no longer cope with stress in their lives, the way a lot of women in the past could. That doesn't mean their lives are more stressful. In many cases it just means they don't have enough people telling them: "Things aren't that bad, actually. Just go outside and focus on something else besides yourself for a while and you'll feel better."

Anyway! Victoria seems to be rising, phoenix-like, from the ashes of her week-long fake migraine. Maybe midterms are over?

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Lots of angry tweeting about Israel, too, but nothing that interesting.
 
I never thought about it until now, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Victoria is a virgin.
She's made allusions at various points to a sex life in the past. Taking into account rule one of the thread (everything Victoria says is a lie), I'm ready to believe at least a little bit of that. Exogenous testosterone will make you horny enough to destroy most levels of inhibition, and guys in her cohort will fuck anything, especially the sort of social justice sad sacks she would have interacted with in her first abortive run at NYU.

Grim as it may be to contemplate, someone has probably put their dick in that. Although I doubt it was any time lately.
 
The point isn't that these girls' lives are hard (most of them are ridiculously spoiled, like Victoria), the point is that there used to be more varied outlets and coping mechanisms for crazy or neurotic women (at least the upper-class ones) and now there are not.
Yeah: this isn't a women thing, this is more of a class thing. Poor women have always had to work, perhaps not as visibly; poor people weren't people until recently. Victoria here is having a modern rich spoiled faildaughter experience, which people were comparing to the version in previous eras; if her parents were struggling her dysfunction would present differently.

Online crybullies love to talk about Trans because it helps them skip over uncomfortable questions about Class.
 
She's made allusions at various points to a sex life in the past. Taking into account rule one of the thread (everything Victoria says is a lie), I'm ready to believe at least a little bit of that.
I dunno man… It didn’t take her very long to go from twinkish pooner to unfuckable roid waddler did it?

I could see her possibly attract some D in that year or two before she got fat and bloated, but remember: She was known as the crazy munchie chick at school. That already makes her dating circle a lot shorter.

Ultimately, I think she’s a virgin though she might have sucked a (very gay, obviously!) dick and/or had a horny guy try and fondle her crotch once.

Why? Because she never incorporates it into her tales of voe. If she actually had sex, we would have heard some rape/sexual assaults stories. If she actually had a boyfriend or fuckbuddy she would have spun long yarns about queer relationships and psychological violence between partners.
 
Are we watching the beginning of a suicide baiting arc? Was thinking the other day that at least, baiting is one thing that Vicky doesn’t do.

But maybe YT got her inspired, because she posted this yesterday:

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GoFundMe for a trip to Canada to get assisted suicide?
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I swear I'll stop harping on her supposed Judaism for a while after this, I just can't help myself - did she mention anything about Yom Kippur that occurred a few days ago, the most important holiday and day in the Jewish faith basically? A day in which you are supposed to do some soul-searching and ask forgiveness of other people? Anything at all? lmao.
Nope. Not one, single mention of Yom Kippur. The only mention of Jews and Judaism of any kind is regular bloo-blooing over Zionists and Muh Genocide.
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The gall to even compare this, these people want to be victims so fucking bad. It’s like the 60s era of liberation and guerrilla warfare has been romanticized, everyone wants to be part of the “revolution.” This isn’t a fucking YA dystopian novel.
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No comment.
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“Martyrs”? How about you martyr yourself Vicky? Go live in the West Bank, be a true Jewish ambassador!
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I seem to recall that daddy had to come and pay the mean landlord man to bail her out in her previous apartment.

Wonder why he doesn’t want to be guarantor? Strange!

Also: Very telling about what makes our little pooner tick.

Holocaust in Gaza? A lazy tweet or retweet.

Daddy saying no? REEEEEEEEE Here comes a 3000 character screed spread over a dozen tweets.
 
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