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The funniest outcome of this would be Hasan continuing to ignore Ethan and then just showing up on Trisha's podcast, so that's what I'm rooting for.
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Hasan is outjewing Ethan seemingly without even breaking a sweat. At some points Ethan was seething and shaking so much I thought he might stroke outEthan literally living up to every single Jewish stereotype with this one.
No archive as its still live.
Deeper Examination of Ethan's Criticisms of Hasan
Ethan's arguments against Hasan go beyond mere disagreement, reflecting a deep concern about the normalization and acceptance of anti-Semitism within certain online communities. Let's examine each point in more detail:
1. Hasan's Complicity in Anti-Semitism
Ethan doesn't outright accuse Hasan of being anti-Semitic but asserts that his actions, specifically his downplaying and dismissal of anti-Semitism, contribute to its rise. 39:45, 44:16 This argument rests on the idea that influential figures have a responsibility to actively combat hate speech, not just refrain from engaging in it. Ethan provides several examples of Hasan failing to meet this responsibility:
2. Glorifying Terrorism and "Luffy IRL"
- Defending a Mod Accused of Hate Speech: Ethan highlights a situation involving "Froan," a mod in Hasan's community who made hateful comments about Arabs. 58:31 Ethan feels Hasan's defense of Froan while simultaneously dismissing the seriousness of anti-Semitism is a telling double standard. 60:16, 61:32, 140:27, 170:17
- Invalidating FBI Statistics: Ethan criticizes Hasan's dismissal of FBI data on hate crimes as an attempt to gaslight Jewish people. 62:09 By refusing to acknowledge the statistically significant rise in anti-Semitic incidents, Ethan argues Hasan is contributing to a broader narrative that seeks to minimize and deny the lived experiences of Jewish people.
- Emboldening a Toxic Audience: Ethan points to the behavior of Hasan's audience, who frequently engage in harassment and hateful behavior towards him and other Jewish people, as evidence that Hasan's rhetoric on the issue is irresponsible. 45:38, 53:18 He suggests Hasan's failure to explicitly and consistently condemn anti-Semitism creates an environment where such behavior is tolerated and even encouraged.
Ethan strongly condemns Hasan's positive portrayal of the Houthi movement, a group designated as a terrorist organization by multiple countries. 66:01, 79:06 This criticism centers on Hasan's interview with a self-proclaimed Houthi member, referred to as "Luffy IRL."
3. October 7th Rape Denial
- Evidence of Houthi Terrorism:Ethan provides a litany of examples demonstrating the Houthi movement's terrorist activities: 70:06, 71:06, 72:15, 73:07, 74:16, 75:19, 76:19, 77:11, 78:31, 79:38, 86:01, 90:25, 91:17
- Their official flag includes the phrase "Death to America, Death to Israel, Curse upon the Jews."
- They attack international shipping vessels, often taking hostages.
- They have a history of kidnapping aid workers.
- They publicly execute people, including members of the LGBTQ+ community.
- Hasan's Problematic Framing:Ethan is particularly disturbed by how Hasan frames "Luffy IRL":
- Trivialization: By focusing on "Luffy IRL"'s interest in anime and drawing comparisons to a fictional character, Hasan minimizes the serious nature of his affiliations and actions. 80:60
- Anne Frank Comparison: Comparing "Luffy IRL" to Anne Frank, a victim of the Holocaust, is deeply offensive to Ethan. It exploits the suffering of a Jewish icon to generate sympathy for an individual who espouses violence and hate. 83:57
- Uncritical Acceptance: Hasan accepts "Luffy IRL"'s claim to not hate Jews at face value, despite his open support for the Houthi movement, which has an explicitly anti-Semitic ideology. 65:14, 70:23 This uncritical acceptance, Ethan argues, allows "Luffy IRL" to mask his bigotry behind a veneer of moderation.
Ethan strongly criticizes Hasan's dismissive attitude towards the documented accounts of rapes that occurred during the October 7th attacks in Gaza. 114:56, 116:43, 117:33, 119:24, 128:29
Ethan's criticisms of Hasan highlight a broader concern about the weaponization of anti-Zionist rhetoric to mask and justify anti-Semitism. By conflating criticism of Israel with hatred of Jewish people, he argues, individuals like Hasan create a dangerous environment where anti-Semitism flourishes under the guise of political discourse. This, combined with their downplaying of the severity of anti-Semitism and their uncritical support for individuals and movements with anti-Semitic ideologies, contributes to the normalization and acceptance of hate speech against Jewish people.
- UN Report Confirmation: Ethan cites a UN report confirming the occurrence of rape and sexual violence during the attacks. 117:33 This evidence, he believes, makes it impossible to deny the reality of these horrific events.
- Hypocrisy of "Woke" Advocacy: Ethan finds it hypocritical that Hasan, who often positions himself as a progressive advocate, would engage in such blatant rape denial. 118:34, 119:58
- Audience Toxicity: Ethan points to the hateful comments and harassment directed at those who mentioned the October 7th rapes as evidence of the toxic environment Hasan fosters. 121:37, 123:37, 124:56
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The same shut in retards that made a snark subreddit after Ethan turned double jew call everyone that quit being a fan of his before them parasocial manbabies.I think he genuinely doesn't want to do a 3 hour show 4x a week anymore and is trying to frame it as Hasan's fanbase of shut in retards 16 year olds forced him to quit doing his show. I predict he will call it quits by the end of the year, at least for any kind of schedule of shows he has been doing for the past 5 years.
Then when people criticize him for quitting on his 10 employees, he'll just cite some mental health shit.
Him and Ben Shapiro could start a show together could call the shekel shakedownthis rocks. watching ethan ruin his career because he wont agree that the wailing wall needs to be destroyed is awesome.
How is his horseEthan literally living up to every single Jewish stereotype with this one.
They are only angry that the negative content is about their guy. If it was another Kurtis Conner type snark about some right wing lolcow they would be eating it up with gusto.A lot of the comments on the H3H3 subreddit that aren't getting deleted are basically his loyal fans complaining that Ethan's dropped whatever promise he made about not making negative content and making brainless happy content
awwwww the poor wittle zionist is butthurt he has to abide by their own global standards of open borders and diversity in his pwecious wittle jewish "effnostate" israel <3Ethan Klein is currently live disavowing former cohost Hasan Piker, calling him a terrorist apologist and showing clips of Hasan playing propaganda on stream and defending the Houthis (which includes interviewing one of them on stream). The stream has been going for two hours, mixed reception from his audience.
No archive as its still live.
Thread on his subreddit (archive)
I don't think Ben Shapiro would be so willingly to invite Ethan onto the Daily Wire. On account of all the times Ethan said Ben Shapiro belonged in a gas chamber.Ethan it's not too late to pivot to being a right wing Zionist just think of all of the shekels you could get from the Ben Shapiro crowd
I've got some degree of sympathy left for him but that does come with a whole lot of sarcastic "well what the fuck did you think was gonna happen Ethan?".I hate Hasan but I am finding it extremely hard to sympathize with Ethan. It just feels like divine justice to me, tbh.
who cares what some nigger youtuber says.I'm not 100% up on the H3 lore, so found the below youtube video (released today) useful in explaining the Jimmie Lee stuff. Ethan is such a clueless MF.