Ethan Klein / h3h3Productions - Opportunistic, two-faced e-celeb sperg with a penchant for hypocrisy and an Oedipus complex; sold out to Susan Wojcicki, the incompetent CEO of YouTube

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No archive as its still live.

Starts at 35min. I can't be assed with listening to 2 hours of Ethan while he is turrets ticcing out of his gourd (really, watch a few seconds of the video, it's really, really bad.) so I used NotebookLM to generate a synopsis. I fed NotebookLM a timestamped transcript of the Hasan part of the video then fed the output to GPT to put in the timestamp links.

AI Summary :

Deeper Examination of Ethan's Criticisms of Hasan​

Ethan's arguments against Hasan go beyond mere disagreement, reflecting a deep concern about the normalization and acceptance of anti-Semitism within certain online communities. Let's examine each point in more detail:

1. Hasan's Complicity in Anti-Semitism

Ethan doesn't outright accuse Hasan of being anti-Semitic but asserts that his actions, specifically his downplaying and dismissal of anti-Semitism, contribute to its rise. 39:45, 44:16 This argument rests on the idea that influential figures have a responsibility to actively combat hate speech, not just refrain from engaging in it. Ethan provides several examples of Hasan failing to meet this responsibility:
  • Defending a Mod Accused of Hate Speech: Ethan highlights a situation involving "Froan," a mod in Hasan's community who made hateful comments about Arabs. 58:31 Ethan feels Hasan's defense of Froan while simultaneously dismissing the seriousness of anti-Semitism is a telling double standard. 60:16, 61:32, 140:27, 170:17
  • Invalidating FBI Statistics: Ethan criticizes Hasan's dismissal of FBI data on hate crimes as an attempt to gaslight Jewish people. 62:09 By refusing to acknowledge the statistically significant rise in anti-Semitic incidents, Ethan argues Hasan is contributing to a broader narrative that seeks to minimize and deny the lived experiences of Jewish people.
  • Emboldening a Toxic Audience: Ethan points to the behavior of Hasan's audience, who frequently engage in harassment and hateful behavior towards him and other Jewish people, as evidence that Hasan's rhetoric on the issue is irresponsible. 45:38, 53:18 He suggests Hasan's failure to explicitly and consistently condemn anti-Semitism creates an environment where such behavior is tolerated and even encouraged.
2. Glorifying Terrorism and "Luffy IRL"

Ethan strongly condemns Hasan's positive portrayal of the Houthi movement, a group designated as a terrorist organization by multiple countries. 66:01, 79:06 This criticism centers on Hasan's interview with a self-proclaimed Houthi member, referred to as "Luffy IRL."
  • Evidence of Houthi Terrorism:Ethan provides a litany of examples demonstrating the Houthi movement's terrorist activities: 70:06, 71:06, 72:15, 73:07, 74:16, 75:19, 76:19, 77:11, 78:31, 79:38, 86:01, 90:25, 91:17
    • Their official flag includes the phrase "Death to America, Death to Israel, Curse upon the Jews."
    • They attack international shipping vessels, often taking hostages.
    • They have a history of kidnapping aid workers.
    • They publicly execute people, including members of the LGBTQ+ community.
  • Hasan's Problematic Framing:Ethan is particularly disturbed by how Hasan frames "Luffy IRL":
    • Trivialization: By focusing on "Luffy IRL"'s interest in anime and drawing comparisons to a fictional character, Hasan minimizes the serious nature of his affiliations and actions. 80:60
    • Anne Frank Comparison: Comparing "Luffy IRL" to Anne Frank, a victim of the Holocaust, is deeply offensive to Ethan. It exploits the suffering of a Jewish icon to generate sympathy for an individual who espouses violence and hate. 83:57
    • Uncritical Acceptance: Hasan accepts "Luffy IRL"'s claim to not hate Jews at face value, despite his open support for the Houthi movement, which has an explicitly anti-Semitic ideology. 65:14, 70:23 This uncritical acceptance, Ethan argues, allows "Luffy IRL" to mask his bigotry behind a veneer of moderation.
3. October 7th Rape Denial

Ethan strongly criticizes Hasan's dismissive attitude towards the documented accounts of rapes that occurred during the October 7th attacks in Gaza. 114:56, 116:43, 117:33, 119:24, 128:29
  • UN Report Confirmation: Ethan cites a UN report confirming the occurrence of rape and sexual violence during the attacks. 117:33 This evidence, he believes, makes it impossible to deny the reality of these horrific events.
  • Hypocrisy of "Woke" Advocacy: Ethan finds it hypocritical that Hasan, who often positions himself as a progressive advocate, would engage in such blatant rape denial. 118:34, 119:58
  • Audience Toxicity: Ethan points to the hateful comments and harassment directed at those who mentioned the October 7th rapes as evidence of the toxic environment Hasan fosters. 121:37, 123:37, 124:56
Ethan's criticisms of Hasan highlight a broader concern about the weaponization of anti-Zionist rhetoric to mask and justify anti-Semitism. By conflating criticism of Israel with hatred of Jewish people, he argues, individuals like Hasan create a dangerous environment where anti-Semitism flourishes under the guise of political discourse. This, combined with their downplaying of the severity of anti-Semitism and their uncritical support for individuals and movements with anti-Semitic ideologies, contributes to the normalization and acceptance of hate speech against Jewish people.

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When I hear this AI generated bullshit I picture these two.
 
I think he genuinely doesn't want to do a 3 hour show 4x a week anymore and is trying to frame it as Hasan's fanbase of shut in retards 16 year olds forced him to quit doing his show. I predict he will call it quits by the end of the year, at least for any kind of schedule of shows he has been doing for the past 5 years.

Then when people criticize him for quitting on his 10 employees, he'll just cite some mental health shit.
 
I think he genuinely doesn't want to do a 3 hour show 4x a week anymore and is trying to frame it as Hasan's fanbase of shut in retards 16 year olds forced him to quit doing his show. I predict he will call it quits by the end of the year, at least for any kind of schedule of shows he has been doing for the past 5 years.

Then when people criticize him for quitting on his 10 employees, he'll just cite some mental health shit.
The same shut in retards that made a snark subreddit after Ethan turned double jew call everyone that quit being a fan of his before them parasocial manbabies.

I hope Ethan lives a long life of pain prolonged by modern medicine. He deserves to see the sand stretch far away and what Teddy will think of him.
 
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Hasan (seemingly accidentally, although it is a big coincidence) had two anti-zionist Jews on his stream yesterday, Noah Kulwin (a co-host of the political history podcast Blowback and contributing editor at Jewish Currents) and Felix Biederman (cofounder of Chapo Trap House). They very briefly touched on the Ethan drama.



Felix and Hasan basically make the same point as Jordan Peterson - during the Trump years, Ethan deliberately disavowed his old content and old audience to court a new progressive fanbase... and therefore most of the blowback Ethan's been getting over Israel/Palestine isn't really anything to do with Hasan, and is instead Ethan's own progressive audience objecting to what Ethan says (although when Felix brings up how rich they all are, Hasan starts changing the subject). Still, it's remarkable that once again Ethan has made Hasan look like a mature, reasonable person purely by comparison.

A lot of the comments on the H3H3 subreddit that aren't getting deleted are basically his loyal fans complaining that Ethan's dropped whatever promise he made about not making negative content and making brainless happy content, and now they're exhausted at him spiralling over the same things he's complained about fruitlessly multiple times in the past. The chat and comments got purged (despite Ethan mocking people who do that in the past) but H3Snark grabbed some screenshots:
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There's plenty more but you get the idea. While this comes across a bit like a raid, the little [h3] logo next to some of the usernames indicates they're paid members of the YouTube channel and therefore actual Ethan fans. There also seems to be backlash about the fact that "AB and Lena" (who appear to be members of the H3H3 production crew) wanted to speak on how they were feeling about the conflict but Ethan steamrollered them, even though Lena's apparently Lebanese and her family just had to get evacuated. The H3 subreddit is a complete mess and reads like cultists struggling with their programming.
 
A lot of the comments on the H3H3 subreddit that aren't getting deleted are basically his loyal fans complaining that Ethan's dropped whatever promise he made about not making negative content and making brainless happy content
They are only angry that the negative content is about their guy. If it was another Kurtis Conner type snark about some right wing lolcow they would be eating it up with gusto.
 
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Ethan Klein is currently live disavowing former cohost Hasan Piker, calling him a terrorist apologist and showing clips of Hasan playing propaganda on stream and defending the Houthis (which includes interviewing one of them on stream). The stream has been going for two hours, mixed reception from his audience.

No archive as its still live.

Thread on his subreddit (archive)
awwwww the poor wittle zionist is butthurt he has to abide by their own global standards of open borders and diversity in his pwecious wittle jewish "effnostate" israel <3
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Ethan it's not too late to pivot to being a right wing Zionist just think of all of the shekels you could get from the Ben Shapiro crowd
I don't think Ben Shapiro would be so willingly to invite Ethan onto the Daily Wire. On account of all the times Ethan said Ben Shapiro belonged in a gas chamber.

On the topic of Ethan Klein, he seems to have entered his duster sniffing/skitzo era, because on today's member's only h3 podcast he accused snarksubs (like, just the general existence of snark-themed reddit subs) of being part of some Reddit wide antisemitic conspiracy 🤦‍♀️ Like, Ethan genuinely cannot comprehend that people might have issues with his stupid hot takes. Instead of examining his behavior being criticized, Ethan's like "it must be Naz!s"

What's even funnier - Ethan used to read snarksubs on air/encouraged h3 fans to participate in the anti-Trisha snarksub. But now that people are snarking on Ethan - snarksubs need to be banned from Reddit immediately, and are inherently antisemitic.

Ethan's such a blatant, lazy hypocrite, he's not even fun to snark on. The most snark worthy thing about h3 is how fugly the Teddy Fresh clothing line is. It looks like adult sized toddler clothes for diaper fetishists or something.
 
I hate Hasan but I am finding it extremely hard to sympathize with Ethan. It just feels like divine justice to me, tbh.
I've got some degree of sympathy left for him but that does come with a whole lot of sarcastic "well what the fuck did you think was gonna happen Ethan?".

It's not like Hasan has always been a nice and understanding guy who you later discover is actually a piece of shit. This is literally his modus operandi. So many people were warning Ethan about Hasan and he totally ignored them, assuming that because he had the right politics at the time that he'd never end up with a knife in his back. Now his ego and stupidity has landed him with Hasan's fans on his ass, and they probably aren't ever gonna leave him alone. Great work dipshit.

I'm hoping that this is a wake-up moment for him. A lot of people buy into these mob tactics until they get burned and, without trying to sound like a cringe-ass Tate fanboy, "take the red pill" and realise just how fucked up what they've been going along with really is.
 
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