Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

I've just started reading it but I have to finish a book group book first before I really dig in. I plan to follow Cnaiur's suggestion of posting choice excerpts, as I've always hated writing book reviews.

I notice that the Goodreads rating is currently 3.36. That is very low; any decent book will be between 3.5-4.0. (More that than tends to be either pre-pub buzz or a beloved author with a devoted fanbase.) Calling it now: Joe cries transphobia.

Did a sweep of the Overdrives of some of the biggest US public libraries:

Los Angeles: 27 copies, 187 people waiting
San Francisco: no copies
Chicago: 2 copies, 9 people waiting
Boston: 1 copy, 52 people waiting
Houston: no copies
New York: no copies
Miami-Dade: 3 copies, 14 people waiting
Seattle: 2 copies, 28 people waiting

It only came out three days ago so the "no copies" libraries might just be waiting for budget reasons or whatever. New York can be particularly weird about that sort of thing. Boston and Seattle will likely get another few copies each, with that much demand. LA is clearly an outlier.
 
Did a sweep of the Overdrives of some of the biggest US public libraries:

Los Angeles: 27 copies, 187 people waiting
San Francisco: no copies
Chicago: 2 copies, 9 people waiting
Boston: 1 copy, 52 people waiting
Houston: no copies
New York: no copies
Miami-Dade: 3 copies, 14 people waiting
Seattle: 2 copies, 28 people waiting

It only came out three days ago so the "no copies" libraries might just be waiting for budget reasons or whatever. New York can be particularly weird about that sort of thing. Boston and Seattle will likely get another few copies each, with that much demand. LA is clearly an outlier.
I have a digital card at LA Public Library. I just checked and it currently says 12 of 42 copies available, though it’s a “skip the line” 7 day loan, so maybe that’s why.

Of the other cards I have, 2 other libraries have 1 copy with a handful of people waiting, and one (with a pretty good digital catalog) doesn’t have it.

LAPL has 1 of 1 copies of Please, Miss available, though surprisingly, someone is listening to the audiobook.
 
But it's worth reading more than most Christie because even someone as consciously conservative as she was is saying, "Time marches on you can't expect things to stay the way they were."
I don't know if Mal has it in her to make a statement like to her audience. "You want things to be one way but guess what? Things change and that would just be a facade at this point."
All good conservative writers eventually do a bit like this. William F. Buckley is my personal favorite, with "a conservative is someone who stands athwart history, yelling stop, at a time when no one is inclined to do so, or to have much patience with those who so urge it."
Mal doesn't make statements with her writing. Even when she was doing The Toast and blogging. Her statements are always like "here's a thing I like" or "I thought this was funny", which is fine, but it ain't Buckley, or Vidal, or even Christie.
I think even the Nero Wolfe books have more to say about that, and those are cozy mysteries with menu-sperging and characters that don't age.
What bothers me most about this book is that there's both a Katherine and a Kitty (a nickname for Katherine). You only had to name five characters and you gave two of them essentially the same name.
This happens in real life. I know a Matt, a Matthew and a Matty, and like three Dylans. It's realism, not laziness. I'm fine with it.
Has Mal really never seen dumb Halloween costumes?
Being sheltered is a core tenet of Mallorian adorkability. Joe's abuse was never able to snuff out her childlike sense of (completely misplaced) wonder.
You can almost imagine her saying "Goodness me! A horse-less carriage!" when she walks by her neighbor's Kia.
Taking the piss out of dumb, ~problematique~ Halloween costumes was also a popular seasonal pastime on the blogosphere that spawned Mal. Same with being astonished at pop cultural ephemera and everyday things.
 
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Yea, it’s not called a “bastard bond” today but a modern version still exists to some extent today. It’s why some states are particularly pushy about establishing paternity. If a child born out of wedlock requires public assistance the state will pursue the father to be be recompensed for some of the money it has to spend to provide for the child. Even if the mother doesn’t pursue child support from the father, the state will on its own behalf if the mother applies for public assistance. Women confused why the courts are after their baby daddy because they aren’t asking for child support, not realizing the state is going after the father because it’s giving her welfare benefits for the child.

It’s not all fathers. If mother’s lose custody of their child they can be ordered to make support payments to the guardians or the state too.
completely off topic but so is half this thread - this is why child support enforcement exists
 
New York can be particularly weird about that sort of thing.
Yeah a few years ago NYPL severely restricted the number of overdrive loans/holds that can be placed, and they’re constantly talking about budget issues.

Here are a few more stats from Libby:

Brooklyn: 7 copies with 71 people waiting
Queens: 2 copies with 54 people waiting
My local county: 1 copy with 13 people waiting
 
Oakland, CA, Libraries
Women's Hotel
- 1 copy for main library ordered 9/30​
- 1 copy for Rockledge library order 9/30​
- 4 holds on them​
Please, Miss
- 1 copy​
- 0 holds​

Berkeley, CA, Public Libraries
Women's Hotel
- 1 copy on hold shelf​
- 2 copies on order​
Please, Miss
- 2 available​

University of California, Berkeley, Library
Women's Hotel
- 1 copy on order, expected 11/18​

Please, Miss
- available at Doe Library only​
- 1 copy, no wait​

MSU Libraries
Women's Hotel
- 0​
Please, Miss
- 1 copy, checked out​

Lansing Capital Area Public Libraries
Women's Hotel
- 4 copies ordered, in transit​
- 1 large print copy on order​
- 1 audio book, 14 people waiting​
- 3 ebook copies, 56 waiting​
Please, Miss
- 1 available, on shelf​

These would not be the results I was expecting.
 
Lansing Capital Area Public Libraries
Women's Hotel- 4 copies ordered, in transit- 1 large print copy on order- 1 audio book, 14 people waiting- 3 ebook copies, 56 waiting
Look at Lansing supporting their new home town gal while Berkeley tries to pretend like Joe doesn’t exist.

None of Joe’s ex-students want to read about his girl dick and moobs, but then again it’s been so long since Joe has taught any of his former students left on campus would be in grad school now.
 
I looked at Mal's Goodreads page. Looked at Joe's as well. Please Miss has 394 ratings, Something That May Shock and Discredit You (Comparing troon-out book to troon-out book) has 3454. Please Miss is by far Joe's most popular book, making up 90+% of all the reviews he's gotten. Mal's most popular book is, unsurprisingly, Texts From Jane Eyre, with 11,157. Women's Hotel has 69 (nyuck nyuck) already. We'll see how it goes, but I think 'Mal get a fresh burst of literary success' would be pretty fun to watch.

Also I tried to write a little Daniel M Lavery brand technothriller.

An excerpt from

ON the Use of Covert Government Force Against Nonstate Groups Who May or May Not Have One or More Legitimate Grievances



REGINALD pressed his thumb down, savoring the precision click of well-machined components as he swept the safety off of his carbine. Quite a good job those boffins down in Armory did, the peculiar buggers, he thought. They really knew how to make a piece of kit, and if they’d had a social media page he would recommend it to everyone he knew as well as to complete strangers.

The complete strangers in the compound below would sadly get very little time to appreciate the quality, but they were at least lucky enough to experience it from the end that he himself could not, so they had that over him. The carbine had a suppressor on, that caused it to make a kind of silly sounding boof boof instead of BOOM BOOM. BOOM BOOM was a much more threatening sound, but it was also unpleasantly loud and there was also the small chance that someone who heard boof boof when they were being shot at would think there was a clown involved somehow. The compound itself was laid out like a series of small plates in a fancy restaurant, only some of plates weren’t plate-shaped and all of them were buildings. A lab for developing illicit chemical weapons, or perhaps bioweapons, but probably not nuclear weapons. Regardless of the weapons that were being developed there, they were all things that certain governments were very keen to keep other people from playing with.

Down we go then he thought as he slithered his way through the thick rainforest undergrowth, which would be an emerald overload in daytime but was now a false-color motion-higlighted wonderland through the Omnispec goggles. The surveillance he had gathered that morning (on what ended up being quite an enjoyable hike, even if he did have to take it slowly and quietly) lurked in the goggles field of view. Labels of buildings, neon-outlined exits and entrances and windows, projected locations of not-visible site personnel, illuminated visible site personnel, and electronic sensors along with their status of ‘jammed’ or ‘not jammed’. He crept closer as a pair of sentries on a patrol separated from the main bricked path to make their route through the trees. Hopefully they’d enjoy it as much he had earlier. They were going to approach but pass by him at a tangent, and all he had to do was wait, while his sound pickups tried to pull in the noises around him which would hopefully include (though sadly, not) an entertaining conversation between the two sentries. They weren’t big talkers and they quietly walked along until their backs were to him. He settled the dot of the sight on the head of the one on the left. Boof boof went the carbine, and he barely had the dot on the head of the one on the right, on the side of his head since he’d turned it to look at his partner’s exploding melon, when he caressed the trigger again boof boof. Reginald wondered if the second man had thought that he was being shot at by a clown.

Those Armory buggers should really get out into the field once in a while
, he thought. It would be a real shame to make a wonderful firearm like this and never shoot anyone with it. He checked the corpses for anything useful, and found a keyfob per corpse that looked like they were part of the same batch of keyfobs and thus very likely their keys for the facility. He also found an open packet of tamarind-flavored chewing gum in one of their pockets, and he took that as well, in case he wanted to try it later. The corpses were then secreted away without ceremony in the thickest piece of foliage that Reginald could spot from where he was standing.

Everyone always thought that getting shot in the head would be instant goodnight Eileen goodnight, but what if it wasn’t? What if somehow, as the brain was liquified by the transfer of kinetic energy to soft tissue, the effect swirled things in a way that sped up consciousness? That the millisecond of projectile-skull collaboration would play out as an eternity in the agitated mixture, the person within experiencing a void of not-life? One of these days he was bound to find out.
 
Dedication
To Grace and Lily
“Better a dinner of herbs where love is"
All they ever eat is herbs (fermented) , but there's no love there.

And to my partners, Grace Lavery and Lily Woodruff: Women are such a pleasure to live with and to think about. I am very lucky it has been granted to me to live with and think about you.
As I say. "To live with and think about" is so perfectly meaningless. Not that Mal gets anything at all from them, just that they are there and exist, allowing her to fill her mind with something that isn't her hatred-fattened calf (from the part of the Proverbs quote she left out). I guess that would be her Ortberg bitterness.

I notice that the Goodreads rating is currently 3.36. That is very low; any decent book will be between 3.5-4.0. (More that than tends to be either pre-pub buzz or a beloved author with a devoted fanbase.) Calling it now: Joe cries transphobia.
It *is* super low. There's a big inflationary impact for lots of popular Goodreads books, but I reckon Mallory is known enough that she should benefit at least a little from name recognition and overpraise.

Some of the reviews from the last month have noted the writer's gender is inescapable.

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And more food metaphors.

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