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[An Sionnach Seang]

And why my driving instructor taught me treat all kids I see as fucking retared. They will jump in front you like they have death wish just because they can or because they saw a cool looking leaf.

sounds like they need the Green Cross Code

(fun fact: the Green Cross man, Dave Prowse, was later the body, but not the voice, of Darth Vader in the original Star Wars trilogy; in both Star Wars and those public information films, his actual voice was overdubbed because his strong Bristol accent made him sound like a farmer)

 

[Apple Porcupine]

Browsing /sp/ and this thread's main character showed up.

Spoiler: Photo in Thread

I find it funny that even old long-deleted tweets of his that have degraded in quality from being passed around as a JPEG so much still make the rounds despite his objections to reposts, and despite his unwavering alliance to Mastodon. It's either these or his short-lived Bluesky doomer thread that has become his legacy, any further videos he makes might not even really matter in that aspect.

I also find it funny that a board that's generally pretty apolitical fucking hates this guy purely because he's such a whiny bitch.

Maybe people are wisening up after all.

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[TORtlEMUStRaNSUS]

Look at those stupid carbrains stuck in traffic trying to escape a hurricane:
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They should use a train instead:
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The train:

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I like that these people just make up scenarios where billions of dollars of infrastructure would work perfectly in a emergency. Its crazy that natural disasters were never an issue until carbrains came along.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

more than the Pope believes in God

Well, not the current Pope anyway...

(fun fact: the Green Cross man, Dave Prowse, was later the body, but not the voice, of Darth Vader in the original Star Wars trilogy; in both Star Wars and those public information films, his actual voice was overdubbed because his strong Bristol accent made him sound like a farmer)

He was the one who (through dumb luck, most likely) inadvertently spoiled Empire Strikes Back, right?

Engineers can already be held criminally liable for gross negligence - but everything there looks signaled and signed correctly.

Gross negligence from an engineering standpoint is extremely rare and basically requires "you done fucked it" levels of failure where the bad design is on the blueprints and not shoddy construction work (the main case study being the 1981 Hyatt Regency walkway collapse). Most of the whinging here is from people who think that anyone involved in roads in any way should be punished (think French Revolution, or to a lesser extent, the Nuremberg Trials).

I like that these people just make up scenarios where billions of dollars of infrastructure would work perfectly in a emergency. Its crazy that natural disasters were never an issue until carbrains came along.

I know the "WHY DON'T THEY EVACUATE TAMPA BY TRAIN" nonsense has been extensively discussed but I find it interesting that "electrified rail" never came up once. They're always pushing for electrified rail but that's the worst thing in a disaster when the region is about to go dark.

 

[TowinKarz]

It's easy to say Canada did something right for once, but it goes to show something—going nuts on the "delete car lanes for bike lanes" policies are UNIVERSALLY UNPOPULAR with people even in "liberal" areas. They can cry about "muh conservatives" and "muh boomers" but the reality is only a tiny group of sociopaths like them.

Such a bad idea, that even an imported Pajeet bureaucrat won't back them..... says a lot.

"BECAUSE CARS KILLED MY GRANDMA, OKAY!?"

Well, what was she wearing? And why did she piss the cars off so much? Hummmm?

Gross negligence from an engineering standpoint is extremely rare and basically requires "you done fucked it" levels of failure where the bad design is on the blueprints and not shoddy construction work (the main case study being the 1981 Hyatt Regency walkway collapse). Most of the whinging here is from people who think that anyone involved in roads in any way should be punished (think French Revolution, or to a lesser extent, the Nuremberg Trials).

The diversity-hire-designed footbridge at Florida International University? That started cracking apart as they were putting it up? And they decided to just keep putting it up? And fix those finger-sized cracks in brand-new concrete when they were finished? And it collapsed onto the roadway and killed several motorists? That's another case where the negligence in doing the math right, on top of the highly questionable decision to try and use CONCRETE to make a SUSPENSION bridge, when concrete is famously BAD at being STRETECHED, eventually got the engineers who signed off on it permanently kicked out of the profession and sued to Hell and back.

(Last I heard, they're STILL trying to get their certifications back, arguing it somehow wasn't their fault the bridge they put the "OK" on the blueprints for fell over as it was being built, TO THEIR PLAN)

 

[quaawaa]

Most of the land Dodger Stadium sits on was unbuildable mountainous land:


Obviously, some people had to sell their homes, but it's not like it was a highly built up area as shown in this pre-construction map of the property (with the parking lots and roads to be built overlaid on it):

“On page 44 of the booklet just to the right of the center on the top you will find Chavez Ravine Road,” wrote O’Malley. “This particular map shows the freeways more clearly. There are about 400 acres of sandy hills and underdeveloped land in this area behind the Police Barracks. … I wish you would drive out to this location at your convenience and study it. This happens to be the only spot adjacent to one freeway but within a short distance of the intersections of the remaining highway. … When you return to New York, we will have some interesting observations to compare …”

Chavez Ravine was a difficult site because of a network of washes, gullies and gulches that were interlaced with hills and twisting roads. Elevations in the ravine ranged from 400 feet to 700 feet above sea level.

In order to compensate for this rough terrain, more than 8 million cubic yards of earth was moved to reshape the area. The steeply terraced bowl of the towering hillside site became an integral part of the main grandstand structure and located the stands on a slope in the shelter of the U-shaped hill.

Next, the Northern face of the rock and sandstone hill was cut down and shaped into a rough amphitheater and benches were cut into the sloping floor to support the stadium foundations and pedestals. To control erosion, a two inch-thick concrete was sprayed over the area. The 124-foot-high grandstand has three major cantilever tiers built on 78 precast bents.

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The people of Los Angeles also voted to give the Dodgers the land:

On June 3, the largest non-Presidential election turnout in Los Angeles history resulted, as 62.3 percent of the city’s 1,105,427 registered voters cast ballots. The referendum favored O’Malley and the Dodgers by 25,785 votes, with more than 670,000 total votes cast.

and the opposition was Big Oil (and a rival baseball team owner):

The individual most responsible for backing and funding the "No" vote was J.A. Smith, affluent L.A. oilman and co-owner of the Padres. He also influenced some city council members who vigorously supported a "No" vote, led by John Holland and Patrick McGee. While every newspaper and the vast majority of businesses in Los Angeles supported a "Yes" vote on "Prop B", it was one of the hottest battles in city history. A group was formed named "The Citizens Committee to Save Chavez Ravine for the People" and it was backed by J.A. Smith with strong support from "local theater owners and television executives who feared competing with the Dodgers, especially if games were broadcast on pay TV and fans could watch at home for a small fee."

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Also, these were some of the "poor latinos" who were evicted:

One resident, Ruth Rayford, a trained actress who studied at the Perry School of Dramatic Arts in St. Louis, had been instructed to look upset by the eviction. “The television man told us to look fierce, and I thought it would be fun, so I raised my cane and did the best I could. We knew the time would come when we would have to move, so we didn’t mind too much. We should have done it sooner, and then we would have been settled by now,” she told the Los Angeles Examiner on May 15, 1959. Another resident who resisted moving until she was forced out was Alice Martin. According to the Mirror News, Martin “named four men as advisers in her resistance against eviction...She displayed a small book with the names and telephone numbers of J.A. (Blackjack) Smith, C.A. Owen, John Loyd and Jerome Murphy. She identified them as men ‘working with Councilman John Holland.’

“(Blackjack) Smith is a shipbuilder, canner, banker, oil producer and rancher. He also has an interest in the San Diego Padres baseball club. Murphy is a businessman here and has been active in politics.” She said today that Murphy “told me not to surrender. ‘Let them break in.’

In 1959, Los Angeles did not have very many Hispanics in the modern sense. By 1970 (the first time the census asked the question), only approximately 1 million of the 7 million residents were of "Spanish origin" and most of them identified as White.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

sounds like they need the Green Cross Code

(fun fact: the Green Cross man, Dave Prowse, was later the body, but not the voice, of Darth Vader in the original Star Wars trilogy; in both Star Wars and those public information films, his actual voice was overdubbed because his strong Bristol accent made him sound like a farmer)

Lol that reminds me. I heard they overdubbed Arnold at least in Terminator for German speaking markets because he has a hick accent

 

[Markass the Worst]

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"Road Guy Rob is a better urbanist channel because he actually explains in good detail [...] and doesn't sound like a condescending faggot while berating Americans and Canadians"

Yes, which is why, daily reminder, Jason Slaughter calls him a "car apologist" for no good reason. His only "fault" is stating he is pro-car and not identifying as an urbanist himself. He's much more urbanist than Jason would have you believe but because he's reasonable he gets denigrated as an "apologist."

 

[Meriasek]

One thing I noticed in foreign countries - the fucking pedestrians believe in brakes more than the Pope believes in God. It’s fucking insane - everyone just walks into traffic assuming that the driver will (a) see them (b) try to stop and © actually have working brakes.

Here in Germany you can usually do that. Mandatory inspections make sure the brakes work, and we're trained to really watch out for pedestrian crossings. So here it's pretty safe to just walk to a crossing and just go, cars will stop. Just don't carry those habits to Italy or so...

 

[Meriasek]

Lol that reminds me. I heard they overdubbed Arnold at least in Terminator for German speaking markets because he has a hick accent

He is dubbed by a different person in the German dubs, but I think that's more due to the dubs being made in Germany, and Arnold not having the time to come here and dub himself.
He has a strong Austrian accent which would be funny in German, but after all these years I doubt he even remembers German much.

 

[kiwirevolving]

Why do so many r/FuckCars people always assume that whenever they see someone drive an empty truck then "it's not used for truck stuff"?

Or if a truck is too clean then they assume that it's not used for off roading?

Some people definitely buy trucks just because they like how it looks, but for someone who is on the road often, you never know when it can be handy to have one, it's versatile.

It's as if these bike freaks also don't consider how cool a bike looks before they buy one

I was raised to never assume too quickly, yet from the posts your average bike freak makes, they sound like they're having an internal breakdown whenever they see someone driving a truck with an empty flatbed. It should be loaded 24/7 because otherwise you're a shithead for taking up too much space without using it for its intended purpose, I guess. Speaking of which, why are police cars on the road if nothing happens??? Wasting gas and polluting and taking up the road, smh.

 

[quaawaa]

Why do so many r/FuckCars people always assume that whenever they see someone drive an empty truck then "it's not used for truck stuff"?

Or if a truck is too clean then they assume that it's not used for off roading?

Every single person I know with a super clean truck uses it very frequently for “truck stuff”; they just clean it obsessively. Ironically, the guys with the dirty trucks are just lazy and the dirt is from weeks of not cleaning, not because they were just off road.

If you go pick something up or come back after dropping something off, the bed will be empty for half the trip. Also, since trucks are taller than other vehicles, it’s difficult to tell if the bed is empty while driving, and if the driver has a tonneau cover, it’s impossible to know.

 

[TowinKarz]

Every single person I know with a super clean truck uses very frequently for “truck stuff”; they just clean it obsessively. Ironically, the guys with the dirty trucks are just lazy and the dirt is from weeks of not cleaning, not because they were just off road.

If you go pick something up or come back after dropping something off, the bed will be empty for half the trip. Also, since trucks are taller than other vehicles, it’s difficult to tell if the bed is empty while driving, and if the driver has a tonneau cover, it’s impossible to know.

Also, when they DO see a very dirty, or dented up truck that clearly is working itself to death? They complain about how it's an eyesore and probably dangerous in that condition, even if it's not..... you can't please them.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

What’s hilarious to me is they shit themselves if they see an F150 or even worse a cybertruck but drive a beat up old box truck and they don’t even notice.

 

[Yamamura]

Why do so many r/FuckCars people always assume that whenever they see someone drive an empty truck then "it's not used for truck stuff"?

Or if a truck is too clean then they assume that it's not used for off roading?

Some people definitely buy trucks just because they like how it looks, but for someone who is on the road often, you never know when it can be handy to have one, it's versatile.

It's as if these bike freaks also don't consider how cool a bike looks before they buy one

I was raised to never assume too quickly, yet from the posts your average bike freak makes, they sound like they're having an internal breakdown whenever they see someone driving a truck with an empty flatbed. It should be loaded 24/7 because otherwise you're a shithead for taking up too much space without using it for its intended purpose, I guess. Speaking of which, why are police cars on the road if nothing happens??? Wasting gas and polluting and taking up the road, smh.

Not only that but they also judge you on if you work "construction" as if you need to prove something before you can own it in their eyes.

Just know when they need to move a couch to tell them to take a hike.

What’s hilarious to me is they shit themselves if they see an F150 or even worse a cybertruck but drive a beat up old box truck and they don’t even notice.

Their obsession is always with whatever they see as the underdog or the less offensive option in their eyes. That's why they praise Kei trucks and minivans, because they don't have the same mental association to them. Though getting hit by any of the other aforementioned vehicles isn't exactly pleasant either.

Whenever I go on youtube and see a comment bitching about "muh trucks" they never really have a real point. It's all based on feelings for them ranting about how big trucks are, but ignore factual points like newer trucks having ABS while older ones didn't come standard. It comes down to the same thing about guns and which one looks scarier.

 

[jje100010001]

It's easy to say Canada did something right for once, but it goes to show something—going nuts on the "delete car lanes for bike lanes" policies are UNIVERSALLY UNPOPULAR with people even in "liberal" areas. They can cry about "muh conservatives" and "muh boomers" but the reality is only a tiny group of sociopaths like them.

The thing I never understand is why bike lanes have to go on roads even in suburbs where there’s plenty of room on arterials to expand a sidewalk to accommodate bikes.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

The thing I never understand is why bike lanes have to go on roads even in suburbs where there’s plenty of room on arterials to expand a sidewalk to accommodate bikes.

Because it’s cheap to make a road a bit wider and paint a line.

A sidewalk can be as expensive as the whole asphalt road, especially if you do both sides.

And bike vs pedestrian is a real problem. Bikes tend to behave around cars because they lose out dead. They just crush pedestrians.

The most advantageous is road / sidewalk / bike path where the bike path is entirely separate. But that’s more expensive

 

[Midwit]

They're always pushing for electrified rail but that's the worst thing in a disaster when the region is about to go dark

Electrification does not preclude the usage of non-electric locomotives provided that they fit the loading guage.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Electrification does not preclude the usage of non-electric locomotives provided that they fit the loading guage.

You either need a large amount of freight locos that can be pressed into service or you have to maintain a fleet of diesels just for emergency.

 

[TowinKarz]

You either need a large amount of freight locos that can be pressed into service or you have to maintain a fleet of diesels just for emergency.

The US does have that huge diesel fleet.... Class A railroads lease and swap locomotives all the time. There's plenty to spare from a publicly -accessible "power pool" and "foreign power" is a frequent sight on the lines . Since locomotives are like planes? They aren't making money if standing still? No sane railroad turns down a request to use their stuff.

Just the other day, a freight through town here had 3 locomotives at the head, all three were for different lines, one Norfolk Southern (the actual company running the show), one Canadian National and one Kansas City Southern, and a FOURTH railroad, the North Shore, owns the actual track and had just leased out "trackage rights" for them to use.


It can be done.