Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

[Logoden]

I'm gonna need a sauce on that one, buddy.
I've played DAO a lot and I don't remember this. Lots of other weird shit, but not this one.

I cannot find for now except maybe in a 2 hours compilation of her dialog. I will try to find it. I wanted to redo DAO with a dwarf ranger anyway, so if I get to the dialog then I will screenshot it.

BUT, I not will leave you without indications. I remember vividly she mentionned it in both english and especially in the french version. This happens when you speak about shapeshifting magic, one of the bottom dialogs is about learning it, another about what it feels, etc.

If my memory serves me wrong then I will add a post-scriptum.

 

[Mola Ram]

I cannot find for now except maybe in a 2 hours compilation of her dialog. I will try to find it. I wanted to redo DAO with a dwarf ranger anyway, so if I get to the dialog then I will screenshot it.

BUT, I not will leave you without indications. I remember vividly she mentionned it in both english and especially in the french version. This happens when you speak about shapeshifting magic, one of the bottom dialogs is about learning it, another about what it feels, etc.

If my memory serves me wrong then I will add a post-scriptum.

It's implied but never confirmed. She tells the Warden that other animals see her as one of their own kind, but doesn't really address the issue of how she interacts with them. The closest we really get is this admittedly amusing banter with Oghren:

• Oghren: Hmmm. So you can turn into animals, aye? Like cats and wolves?
• Morrigan: When the desire strikes me.
• Oghren: Have you ever... you know. "When in Tevinter..."
• Morrigan: That's a most curious little mind you have, dwarf. And what if I had? Would that thought comfort you during your lonely nights?
• Oghren: Hmmm. Have you ever changed during--
• Morrigan: Why are you suddenly asking me this?
• Oghren: How do we know you're truly a woman? Or even human! You could be a chip mouse... or a nug! Ha! Imagine that!
• Morrigan: Why, yes. I am actually a nug in human form. I have come to observe your kind.
• Oghren: Huh. Nugs are good with extra sauce. I'm just saying.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

>Neil Newbon as Astarian
a bunch of 13 year old girls want to larp as twilight and that makes him an all time great voice actor? didn't even like his voice acting, far to pompous and gay

I'm talking about his performance no1curr about the deranged fanbase. BG3 fanbase is full of tards and philosophytube.

Anyway have some Meredith.

She has a point. I like playing as a mage (though rogue is my favorite) but at the same time she and Vivienne are right. Mages needs to be contained in the circle. Blood magic is dangerous. The majority of mages turn nuts.

 

[Logoden]

It's implied but never confirmed. She tells the Warden that other animals see her as one of their own kind, but doesn't really address the issue of how she interacts with them. The closest we really get is this admittedly amusing banter with Oghren:

My savior. Thank you very much.

I think the french version was more overt during her dialogs or something. I will probably redo it in French for once, it has been a long time after all, just to see if it has held up.

 

[Estate]

Grim.


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[Asian tech support]

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Short of showing pooner boob scars or the Qunari derpfaces, that's got to be just about the most unflattering screenshot they could have chosen.

 

[Peaches the Wonder Cat]

Grim.

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The downside to Bioware dying is that "Trick" and the rest of the trannies will infest other companies. Too bad we can't toss a few cylinders of Zyklon B into the building and be done with them.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

The downside to Bioware dying is that "Trick" and the rest of the trannies will infest other companies.

A company that is hiring trannies who then waste hundreds of millions of dollars and produce awful trash doesn't deserve to exist. Trannies have a reverse Midas touch. Everything they touch turns into excrements.

 

[Waifuchu]

The funniest thing about Sera is that she's actually too based for the modern day because she hates elves[/insert allegorical ethnic group of choice here] wallowing in self pity and is basically "victim blaming".
So she strives to be better by resorting to crime.

She also has a line during the Orlesian Ball where she lists off a bunch of flaws with various attendees, including something along the lines of "And 'she' is actually a he."

This line gets cited a lot when people are complaining about how "problematic" Sera is, along with the "victim blaming" and "racial fetishization", to the point that (of course) there are mods that axe that line entirely. Coincidentally, I can't bring myself to hate Sera, even if her wacky randum XDDDDD "humor" is grating.

 

[Weltraumfürst]

Origins is so fucking cool and memorable. Everything about it from its setting to its characters is magical in ways that later games can only imitate.

To be honest - and I love Origins, it's one of my favorite video games - the setting never quite did it for me. Not so much in terms of lore, cutthroat Dwarven politics, gypsy elves and mages being potential WMDs were genuinely good and fresh ideas, and so were stuff like the Fade or the Maker. What I never got into was the tone. I'm not sure I can explain it very well, but the dark stuff like all the gore never felt genuine to me. Like the setting tried way too hard to be dark and edgy. Now, that doesn't really bother me, but I did always notice it.

In that regard, I actually didn’t mind that stuff being toned down in DA:I. I know that's probably weird.

Edit to avoid double posting: Reading this thread, I feel like I really need to replay Inquisition again because I seem to have forgotten most of it.

 

[Logoden]

To be honest - and I love Origins, it's one of my favorite video games - the setting never quite did it for me. Not so much in terms of lore, cutthroat Dwarven politics, gypsy elves and mages being potential WMDs were genuinely good and fresh ideas, and so were stuff like the Fade or the Maker. What I never got into was the tone. I'm not sure I can explain it very well, but the dark stuff like all the gore never felt genuine to me. Like the setting tried way too hard to be dark and edgy. Now, that doesn't really bother me, but I did always notice it.

In that regard, I actually didn’t mind that stuff being toned down in DA:I. I know that's probably weird.

Edit to avoid double posting: Reading this thread, I feel like I really need to replay Inquisition again because I seem to have forgotten most of it.

Sometimes it appeared too gratuitous or compensating for something. It gave shallow feeling because it just a little too much, maybe even dulling its impact upon the player. Imagine the irony of a game made to be edgy achieving to dull such a thing.

As for Inquisition I think it was the other way around as it clearly was censored to some degree, it was too clean, that's why it might feel wrong. Less fleshy, gross body horror like DAO and Awakening(Jesus, the fucking dark spawn maggots). Some of its gore was less gritty, less over-the-top but still had some cool stuff here and there such as spell gore. A humanoid target getting struck by lightning had something comical(skull animation) but also horrible as the enemy, now a steaming bone pile, collapses. Also some enemies outright just blowed up to leave a small pile of bones and flesh, that was slightly messed up and comical too.

I would say the former was bloated and the later hollowed out.

 

[A Sentient Cloud]

Is this game coming out, or are we just gonna yell about David Gaider while autistically arguing about the lore he wrote and misuse the word “whom” for the rest of time?

 

[Logoden]

are we gonna keep yelling about David Gaider while autistically arguing about the lore he wrote and misusing the word “whom”

It has been a thing for more than 14 years now. Welcome in hell.

and misusing the word “whom”

Alright, if it is me then I apologize for making your eyes bleed.

 

[Gorton Colu]

Is this game coming out, or are we just gonna yell about David Gaider while autistically arguing about the lore he wrote and misuse the word “whom” for the rest of time?

This is English. Do we really care about noun cases and declensions anymore?

For my part, I want to argue about Weekes too, not just Gaider.

 

[Mola Ram]

As for Inquisition I think it was the other way around as it clearly was censored to some degree, it was too clean, that's why it might feel wrong. Less fleshy, gross body horror like DAO and Awakening(Jesus, the fucking dark spawn maggots).

Counterpoint: the Red Templars with more advanced red lyrium poisoning are fucking horrifying. I mean specifically the Knights, Shadows, and -- worst of all -- the Behemoths, who look to be in perpetual agony.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

Finishing up Inquisition after 10 years had made me appreciate that it isn't nearly as bad as I remembered, or it's that contemporary games make it seem better by comparison. I'm not exactly sure which it is.

For anyone playing DAI in preparation for Dragon Age: TrannyGuard, know that Microsoft and Bioware lied, you are able to get and use the Amulet of Master Studies and the Ring of Master Studies on the PC copy of DAI. The data is in the PC game files. They just didn't want to let PC people have it.

Also, for anyone that got to Trespasser and found out that sacrificing the Chargers lead to a rather grim outcome for Iron Bull it actually is possible to edit a save file and alter this outcome once you get to the Winter Palace for the first time in Trespasser. It will bring the Chargers back to life and actually allow for an interactive cutscene to play when you first get to the Winter Palace and interact with Iron Bull that is otherwise inaccessible. This also prevents the unfortunate outcome for poor Iron Bull as well. If anyone is interested in how this can be done, just post here, and I'll write it up. Its not exactly hard, but I also wouldn't call it simple (and no, it's not as simple as using the DAI Save Game Editor), it involves a manual event key replacement since just purely adding an event key will cause permanent corruption of the Save Game in question, and will actually cause DAI to freakout and deny you access to all of your saves until the offending save is removed.

 

[Mola Ram]

For anyone play DAI in preparation for Dragon Age: TrannyGuard, know that Microsoft and Bioware lied, you are able to get and use the Amulet of Master Studies and the Ring of Master Studies on the PC copy of DAI. The data is in the PC game files. They just didn't want to let PC people have it.

I've already modded the game to replace all the Amulets of Power they patched out, but how might one accomplish this feat?

 

[Gorton Colu]

Counterpoint: the Red Templars with more advanced red lyrium poisoning are fucking horrifying. I mean specifically the Knights, Shadows, and -- worst of all -- the Behemoths, who look to be in perpetual agony.

Sure, but they still don't compare to Origins abominations. .

 

[Mola Ram]

Sure, but they still don't compare to Origins abominations. View attachment 6547995.

I think it's a matter of taste. The abominations are unquestionably nasty, but there's just something about how sheerly inhuman the Red Templars have become that unsettles me.

 

[Gorton Colu]

I think it's a matter of taste. The abominations are unquestionably nasty, but there's just something about how sheerly inhuman the Red Templars have become that unsettles me.

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For me its the fact that they're more in human that bothers me less. They just look like lyrium elementals. A little freaky