Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

My brother is looking to get the current Novavax, as it's not an RNA one as he's traveling more for work now. I told him it's still spike protien based, but alas he's headset on getting it.
It's funny, cause our sister has been getting the vax every couple of months; and she has had moderate covid twice in the past 3 months.
 
Adroc Thurston said:
My brother is looking to get the current Novavax, as it's not an RNA one as he's traveling more for work now. I told him it's still spike protien based, but alas he's headset on getting it.
It's funny, cause our sister has been getting the vax every couple of months; and she has had moderate covid twice in the past 3 months.
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Who is still requiring the vax fit travel?
 
Jimjamflimflam said:
Who is still requiring the vax fit travel?
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True on that, it was something he was thinking about just doing; think my sister (gigavaxed) advice it was.
Convinced him to avoid it for now after linking the issues people have with the spike proteins and heart conditions. I wouldn't be surprised that my sister's cardiovascular health has been damaged with all of the vaccines she has had, and therefore why she's had moderate covid twice in 3 months now.
 
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Equal Rights for Androids said:
Anyone got experience with the non-mRNA vaccine novavax? Got a higher paying job who wants me but won't hire until I get a covid vaccine. I refuse to get gene therapy
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In the "company’s 33-year history, it has never brought a vaccine to market." It still got "the largest award to date."


"there were four cases of a type of heart inflammation called myocarditis detected within 20 days of taking the protein-based shot." vs. 1 with placebo group
 
No thank you, and it's mostly due to @Drain Todger 's research into what exactly the vaccine was and its effects. And within a week of reading it and going "nah, he's full of shit, right? Just some random shitposter on a shitposting forum." Nope.

What sealed it for me was not seeing newscasters and videos from China depicting people just falling over mid sentence. It was when it took my aunt. She was a nurse and was up on her vaccinations. Secondhand here, but she reportedly felt very faint after serving the Thanksgiving turkey and just...fell over in the kitchen. Dead before she hit the ground.

If you're vaccinated already, my thoughts are with you and my condolences to your family. Write that will now.
 
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Sneed's Feed And Seed said:
No thank you, and it's mostly due to @Drain Todger 's research into what exactly the vaccine was and its effects. And within a week of reading it and going "nah, he's full of shit, right? Just some random shitposter on a shitposting forum." Nope.

What sealed it for me was not seeing newscasters and videos from China depicting people just falling over mid sentence. It was when it took my aunt. She was a nurse and was up on her vaccinations. Secondhand here, but she reportedly felt very faint after serving the Thanksgiving turkey and just...fell over in the kitchen. Dead before she hit the ground.

If you're vaccinated already, my thoughts are with you and my condolences to your family. Write that will now.
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There were many, many different reasons why I didn't want the vaccine.

First off, and most importantly, is the sheer fraud and racketeering element behind all of it. The same budgets that produced the vaccine also produced the virus itself.

If we assume SARS-CoV-2 came from the WIV and not a wet market, something that Tony Fauci and a bunch of other people were desperate to cover up to the point of illegally evading FOIA, then one thing becomes immediately obvious: EcoHealth Alliance had tons of NIH funding, but NIH also co-owns the COVID-19 vaccine patents and they make tons of bread off them. There was actually a nasty patent dispute between NIH and Moderna because Moderna didn't want to give NIH their cut of the money.

Ralph Baric, who has mysteriously kept out of the news and out of public hearings almost this entire time, collaborated with the WIV's Shi Zhengli on coronavirus experiments for many years, and there is an extensive record of this in the form of published papers bearing both their names in the list of authors. He also tests and validates vaccines for Moderna, and drugs for Gilead. We know this because we have a copy of a material transfer agreement showing, conclusively, that he tests vaccines for Moderna (page 105 of this doc), and we know he tested Remdesivir for Gilead because UNC Chapel Hill brags about it openly.

There are also the very obvious military and intelligence links behind everything, here. Andrew Huff, the former VP of EcoHealth Alliance, flat-out claimed that Peter Daszak was working for the CIA. We also know that the head of Metabiota (the company that took funding from Hunter Biden's Rosemont Seneca and spent it on virus research in Ukraine), Nathan Wolfe, was a friend and possible accomplice of Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein, Boris Nikolic, et cetera, and is connected to Bill Gates through them.

EcoHealth Alliance, Metabiota, Labyrinth Global Health, and so forth, are what we call GONGOs. Government-Organized Non-Governmental Organizations. Intelligence fronts that have the outward appearance of being grassroots, nonprofit orgs, basically. Their only reason for existing is to spend taxpayer money (through In-Q-Tel, USAID, et cetera) on things the CIA wants.

The military and intelligence fuckery with viruses is not confined to China and Ukraine. The Defense Threat Reduction Agency, USAID, and In-Q-Tel fund this sort of research in dozens of labs all over the place. This practice of outsourcing highly questionable GOF research has its roots in, essentially, the demilitarization of the US bioweapons research programs (after the ratification of the Biological Weapons Convention), and their transfer to civilian research orgs under the euphemism of "biodefense", and the subsequent backlash from watchdog groups and whistleblowers who questioned the need for the construction of BSL-3 and BSL-4 labs all over the US. Basically, the DOD and CIA wanted to keep doing this same exact virus research without any regulation and beyond the reach of FOIA, so they started up some fake NGOs to subcontract grants to labs on the other end of the planet. This is no joke. There were very heated hearings about this. The labs in the US were quietly shuttered and Nathan Wolfe, the obvious CIA asset with links to DARPA, started "Global Viral" right afterward.

They didn't actually stop doing the questionable research they wanted to do, they just outsourced it. The not-so-funny part about all of this is that they make it out to be a bunch of conspiracy nonsense today, but a bunch of people made very well-reasoned arguments back then about why this was a bad idea. People with unimpeachable credentials approaching the matter as an arms control issue (which it very much is) wrote whole books on why this was fucked up.

Moderna, themselves, had considerable DARPA funding for their research, under a program called ADEPT: PROTECT (It's actually an extremely tortured acronym: Autonomous Diagnostics to Enable Prevention and Therapeutics: Prophylactic Options to Environmental and Contagious Threats). In 2013, DARPA gave Moderna $25 million to develop an mRNA mAb therapy against Chikungunya virus.

DARPA was also the subject of EcoHealth Alliance's leaked DEFUSE grant proposal, which sounded like a roadmap for making something very similar to SARS-CoV-2.

The vaccine components are made by defense contractors, like National Resilience. They were obtained by the US DOD under an "Other Transaction Authority" as "Medical Countermeasures", which means they aren't legally pharmaceuticals in the first place, but military prototypes, which means that the FDA approval of the vaccines was conducted under color of law, as they approved a non-pharmaceutical product that they had no regulatory authority to approve to begin with, just to create an appearance of FDA approval. This became abundantly clear after Brook Jackson's Ventavia Whistleblower case, where Pfizer's defense against an accusation of fraud in court was that they only committed the fraud that the government told them to commit, and after Katherine Watt's extremely autistic and in-depth analysis of the vast array of legal loopholes that effectively legalized the government murdering its own citizens, and Sasha Latypova's analysis of the same phenomenon.

It's worth noting that the DOD also coordinated the vaccination program through ACTIV, a partnership between NIH, BARDA, and the DOD. So, it was a military operation from the beginning.

The reason why COVID-19 vaccines are designed the way they are is because it simplifies the production process. Instead of, for instance, cultivating flu vaccines in chicken eggs, they wanted either a recombinant process in bioreactors (like with Novavax, which is a protein subunit vaccine), or to use the human body itself as a bioreactor to make the antigen (such as with mRNA or DNA vaccines). It sounds like a great idea on paper, because what it fundamentally means is that any time they need a new vaccine against something, they just have to plug in the new sequence for a viral antigen into their platform and boom, they have a vaccine within 48 hours, or so they say.

The reality is that the end-product is extremely nasty and toxic for numerous reasons:
Nothing about COVID-19 was an accident. Don't let the motherfuckers who did this get away with saying it was just an honest mistake. It wasn't. The entire western medical and biosecurity establishment did not, overnight, have their brains fall out of their heads and all simultaneously do the most harmful and counterproductive things they could have done, with perfect, global coordination, without years of premeditation and planning behind it. It was quite deliberate, done with malice aforethought.

Why did all of this happen? Simple. The CIA (and the psychopathic oligarchs they work for) want depopulation and reduced life expectancies across the board. Why? One, they believe in the Club of Rome's apocalyptic, Neo-Malthusian predictions about environmental and resource collapse, and they want to preserve the environment for their very rich masters and get rid of the excess humans despoiling it. Two, AI is taking over, replacing the excess "useless eaters", anyhow. Three, our governments and their pension systems are insolvent, our banks are a complete joke and totally insolvent as well, and they are propped up through institutional fraud, so the only way they can fix things in the financial system is by removing the "dead weight" of elderly retirees, hence a virus that primarily culls old people; the reason for this is because our entire economy is a ponzi scheme that requires the buy-in of young, working taxpayers and cannot withstand having an excessively high ratio of old to young people (this is actually a massive national security issue, because an insolvent government can't afford to go to war or even defend itself, and too many old, obese, and sick people leads to military recruitment trouble, so naturally, the Pentagon will only be too happy to help dispose of them). Four, they want mass surveillance and mass censorship (i.e. "Turnkey Totalitarianism") to enforce their vision of a dystopia run by rentier-aristocrats where they control what you're allowed to spend your currency on, like an allowance from daddy, and all the things we think of as property are turned into services, like robo-taxis replacing cars and microapartments replacing a house with a garage in the suburbs.

It's actually, quite literally, a class war by the rich against everyone else where the goal is to gobble up all property and make the rest of us lease it from them, eradicating the middle class and creating a permanent elite. David Hughes calls it the Omniwar. He wrote a whole book/paper on it, describing the intentional totalitarian psywar elements of it all in excruciating detail. You can download the PDF of it free off Springer. I recommend people archive and save everything they can. Videos, papers, articles, podcasts, whatever. One of these days, the incredibly sick bastards who did this are going to try memoryholing all of it.

 

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Adroc Thurston said:
It's funny, cause our sister has been getting the vax every couple of months; and she has had moderate covid twice in the past 3 months.
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As opposed to more serious cases of COVID. The vaccines are doing their job.
Sneed's Feed And Seed said:
What sealed it for me was not seeing newscasters and videos from China depicting people just falling over mid sentence.
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That was all fear mongering propaganda. /pol/ tier bullshit.
 
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I didn‘t get the Covid vaccine because there was enough reports of it affecting menstrual cycles that journalists posted articles saying it was probably just lockdown stress. I didn’t want to take something that they would lie about like that, even if it probably wouldn’t be bad for me long term.

I finally caught Covid a couple months ago and it was just a mild cold since I’m young and healthy. I’m not fundamentally opposed to the vaccine if you are older or genuinely immunocompronised though - my mom caught the coof off me and was much worse off than I was. I only bothered with the Covid test at all because she was so bad. If she didn’t get I’ll I”d have just assumed it was the sniffles and not even bothered mentioning it to anyone.

The only person besides me in my family that refused to get the vaccine was my grandad, and I actually think that’s a stupid decision because he’s old and frail. He drives my Nan absolutely insane with his non-stop GBNews politisperting and Parkinson’s medication induced OCD though, and he prefers to stay at home and be miserable than come to any family gatherings, so it might be better for her if he died, as terrible as that seems to say. She’d have one less manbaby to care for - one of my uncles is a hikkikomori* that lives with them too and my Nan does EVERYTHING. Her poor knees aren’t what they used to be.

* apparently he got beaten up by a group of ne’er-do-wells out in public when he was 18 and it really fucked him up mentally. My Nan enables him though.
 
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I'm not sure who I hate more:
The people that say that being critical of the COVID vaccine is equivalent to being against every vaccine
or the retards that are against every vaccine for making the them appear correct.
 
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