"Mad at the Internet" - a/k/a My Psychotherapy Sessions

mindlessobserver said:
Statistics do weird things and there is a very good book about it by Darrel Huff called "How to Lie with Stastics".
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This is why you invert and otherwise "look at it from a different angle" - instead of per capita or otherwise, you calculate "percentage chance a woman will be X" in various countries. If 100% of murders in Vatican City are women from a relationship, but they haven't had one since 1819, a woman is "safer" there than someplace where only 10% of murders are women, but the population is much, much larger.

Either way it's statistically low, but murder is easy to track, other forms of abuse and "generally this place is shitty" are not.

Null's main point stands, however - there are large percentages of South Korean people (and women) who want to get the fuck out of Korea.

The other problem is with terms; what one country counts as "abuse" may only be physical lasting bodily harm, whereas another may include yelling, emotional, etc.
Xavier Ravenblood said:
How do we as a society solve this?
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In general the only way to solve it is local and large families; then if an abusive situation develops and gets out of hand it gets "resolved" or someone disappears.
 
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Lidl Drip said:
It's 1 in 3 women who have experience domestic violence in Japan, meanwhile it's 1 in 4 in the US, Germany, UK. Japan might be a save country for men, but not for women.
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I heard on world service radio recently that Turkey currently has an out of control amount of women murder, and there is also a political reaction there. Perhaps less surprising than Japan though.


There’s apparently no room in the prisons for violent offenders as they are full of political prisoners. Great place.
 
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Oxyjen said:
I heard on world service radio recently that Turkey currently has an out of control amount of women murder, and there is also a political reaction there. Perhaps less surprising than Japan though.

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Yes there has been a series of horrible killings in Turkey.

A young man called Semih Çelik murdered two 19 year old girls, İkbal Uzuner and Ayşenur Halil. He slit Ayşenur's throat and dismembered İkbal Uzuner on top of the city walls, then he threw her various body parts to the street, including her severed head. He was obsessed with both of these girls and stalking them, this all happened in broad daylight btw.


The Turkish media issued a broadcast ban on this story which is why it ofc blew up immensely. Now there is a huge spotlight on the violence against women in Turkey.
 
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HarblMcDavid said:
And the same mask as 2 years ago.

First documented instance of him wearing it, while on a flight:
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And another which looks more like our boy as pictured in Chicago, same mask, also on a flight:
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nigga looks like a practical for the inquisition lmfao.
 
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Null said:
ok? what's your fucking point?
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That the chances of a woman being murdered in those countries is much lower than in one of the countries where there's a 80/20 split. Even if 100% of the murder victims were women it would still be one of the safest countries for women in the world. You also pointed out that 80% of young women want to leave South Korea and not even mention that the same graph showed that 70% of young men also want to leave. Its clear that they have some major fucking problems, especially when it comes to work culture, but them wanting to leave has nothing to do with murder or violence in general.
 
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reptile baht spaniard rid said:
This is why you invert and otherwise "look at it from a different angle" - instead of per capita or otherwise, you calculate "percentage chance a woman will be X" in various countries. If 100% of murders in Vatican City are women from a relationship, but they haven't had one since 1819, a woman is "safer" there than someplace where only 10% of murders are women, but the population is much, much larger.

Either way it's statistically low, but murder is easy to track, other forms of abuse and "generally this place is shitty" are not.

Null's main point stands, however - there are large percentages of South Korean people (and women) who want to get the fuck out of Korea.

The other problem is with terms; what one country counts as "abuse" may only be physical lasting bodily harm, whereas another may include yelling, emotional, etc.

In general the only way to solve it is local and large families; then if an abusive situation develops and gets out of hand it gets "resolved" or someone disappears.
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Slur Generator said:
That the chances of a woman being murdered in those countries is much lower than in one of the countries where there's a 80/20 split. Even if 100% of the murder victims were women it would still be one of the safest countries for women in the world. You also pointed out that 80% of young women want to leave South Korea and not even mention that the same graph showed that 70% of young men also want to leave. Its clear that they have some major fucking problems, especially when it comes to work culture, but them wanting to leave has nothing to do with murder or violence in general.
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consider the following:
 
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Lidl Drip said:
It's 1 in 3 women who have experience domestic violence in Japan,
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what is domestic violence here? does it require someone to lay hands on them, or is it the westernized "speech is violence" pseudo definition?

if a woman hits a man, does that qualify as the woman "experiencing domestic violence"?
 
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Sperg_rancher said:
is it the westernized "speech is violence" pseudo definition?
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Emotional abuse is very much domestic violence in all definition of the word, and in some cases it can do more damage than a slap or two.
Sperg_rancher said:
if a woman hits a man, does that qualify as the woman "experiencing domestic violence"?
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No, that should count as the man is experiencing DV. Either way it’s f*cked up if a couple lay hands on each other and it should mean the immediate end of the relationship in an ideal world. And abusive women should be equally ostracised.

One significant issue is that a lot of people don’t even register that they are in an abusive relationship until something life altering happens, like a serious injury. They brush it off as part of the process of working on the relationship. Love is blind.
 
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