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BullfrogBill said:
I want to say Hoover, he completely fumbled right out of the gate because he didn't listen to any of Coolidge's advice and actually did the opposite of everything Coolidge said and ended up making a what would have been a natural recession that would fix itself very fast into a depression by increasing the size of government. I can't be too hard on Hoover though since we all know that the brunt of the Great Depression was spurred on by FDR and Hoover didn't actually intend to create problems, he was just too hard headed and misguided.

I also want to say something about Harding too but the dude died only 2 years into his presidency so I don't even know if he really counts as the worst anyway, besides he made a brilliant choice with Coolidge as his VP lol
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Hoover can be somewhat excused because government interference in the economy to stop recessions hadn't really been tried. What was excusable in 1929 was inexcusable in 2008.

Nixon is a mixed bag. He was done dirty by the Deep State, and not treating China as a Soviet client state was clever, but he was also a triangulating Big Government Republican who saddled us with institutions such as the EPA that continue to be a pain in the ass. Maybe in 1968, after Goldwater got beaten like a red-headed stepchild, you couldn't ask for anything more.

Most of the shit Reagan get is by young guys whose entire notion of the 1970s comes from some tarted-up macroeconomic charts and not even a Schoolhouse Rock-level understanding of how laws get passed. Reagan had a Democratic House all eight years and a Democratic Senate in his second term. At some point, the guys who really hate Reagan will say something like, "Reagan should have had Congress pass a law..." like this is some 18th century European country where the parliament answers to the king, and someone who actually tried to do things the way they wanted would have gotten zero legislation passed and been thrown out after a year. Still, Reagan's biggest mistake was "amnesty now, enforcement later." That was surprisingly naive.

Bush, by contrast, made a bunch of stupid mistakes that had already been made, so he gets no quarter from me. Aside from the forever wars, he discredited the Republican Party on a generational scale, did nothing to undo Clinton's politicization of the Army, and sat by idly as the left took over and corrupted various key American institutions. Fuck that guy.
 
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The Ugly One said:
Banning sales of ammunition by mail isn't gun control? Surprise ATF raids aren't gun control? You're saying you wish Reagan had left all that in place and maintained the status quo, right?
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They should have killed the bill and tried later, due to that amendment to the bill. It’s been the basis for various attacks on our 2nd Amendment ever since (e.g. the Rare Breed Trigger debacle with the ATF. Done by an ATF rule ultimately based on the Hughes amendment for the trigger’s banning from “civilian” hands).

And whilst you try to build the majority to pass the FOPA unamended, here’s a thought, rein the ATF in. If the chief executive can direct the ATF to consider bump stocks mac. guns, he can tell them to cut it.

There was nothing wrong with the bill besides that.
 
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Looking back at the 2020 election, I gotta say, I’m actually glad Trump didn’t win. It’s like God Himself, stepped in and said, “Trump, not yet there’s a bigger plan.” Because honestly, look at everything that’s happened since. People saw how much worse things could get, and lo and behold, even some Democrats went full-on Republican!

And Trump’s been having a way better run this time around. Divine intervention literally saved him and gave him a shot (no pun intended) at an even more epic comeback. I’ve always believed everything happens for a reason, and now we’re seeing why he had to lose in 2020. God’s timing is everything, and we’re all witnesses to His plan unfolding!

We just got to make it to the finish line.
 
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“Token” the Neigermiester said:
They should have killed the bill and tried later, due to that amendment to the bill. It’s been the basis for various attacks on our 2nd Amendment ever since (e.g. the Rare Breed Trigger debacle with the ATF. Done by an ATF rule ultimately based on the Hughes amendment for its banning from “civilian” hands).

There was nothing wrong with the bill besides that.
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The House remained Democratic, and failed legislation rarely if ever gets a second go, so what you're saying is he should have done nothing and maintained the status quo.

Got it.

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And whilst you try to build the majority to pass the FOPA unamended
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The House remained majority Democratic.

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And whilst you try to build the majority to pass the FOPA unamended, here’s a thought, rein the ATF in.
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The President has little control over government agencies, thanks to the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978. Perhaps he should have politely asked the Democrats to repeal that one, too.
 
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Disc said:
I think this provides a little more key information for my earlier theory:

There isn't just one Policy She's Been Told To Talk. There's multiple, conflicting ones. So there's more like three-or-four different directions being pulled here.
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She didn't have a full year but she's sitting on the biggest political campaign bank account in history and all she needed to do was write an outline on a couple of sheets of paper and get the team and writers in to get a book out. The same process to get everybody on the same page is literally the process of writing the goddamn book.

A book gives you all the freedom in the world to frame your thoughts and your selling without interference from anyone in corporate media.

And you're a Democrat so you're completely insulated from negative criticism over the book unlike the dumb bitch who admitted in her book that she shot her dog.
 
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I cannot stress how much damage losing clandestine control over X has done to the Democrats and the Uniparty.
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If Trump wins, I would not at all be shocked if we see lawfare against X and Musk from states like California. Up to and maybe including criminal charges.
If Harris “wins” idk what to predict. Probably lawfare on the federal level. But I also think the troubles scale conflict is possible in that scenario, so it’s entirely possible they may not be able to get their hands on him.
 
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AmHole said:
Looking back at the 2020 election, I gotta say, I’m actually glad Trump didn’t win. It’s like God Himself, stepped in and said, “Trump, not yet there’s a bigger plan.” Because honestly, look at everything that’s happened since. People saw how much worse things could get, and lo and behold, even some Democrats went full-on Republican!

And Trump’s been having a way better run this time around. Divine intervention literally saved him and gave him a shot (no pun intended) at an even more epic comeback. I’ve always believed everything happens for a reason, and now we’re seeing why he had to lose in 2020. God’s timing is everything, and we’re all witnesses to His plan unfolding!

We just got to make it to the finish line.
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The 2020 retrospective pretty much exemplifies to me the idea of “God works in mysterious ways”. Obviously we all wanted him to win in 2020, but him “losing” has undeniably put him, and more importantly MAGA, in a significantly stronger position than he would be had he won.

It’s really deeply hilarious how badly they played themselves stealing the poison chalice. We truly live in historical times.
 
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Honestly... I do not believe that Trump is a rapist/groper/whatever.
With that said, *even if he was*... While I would disavow said actions, I would not even begin to bring myself to care as much as these faggots want me to.

The Democrats have spent the last 4+ years trying to gaslight me into not to believing my lying eyes about all of the creepy shit that Biden has unabashedly done, sniffing and inappropriately touching dozens of little girls and women, ON CAMERA (which I can *actually go watch right now and see that it happened* As of right now, there is still no proof of anything like that for Trump.)
It clearly doesn't matter very much *to them* if the president is a creep (even if it sickens the fuck out of me), just so long as "their guy" wins, and they make money out of it. Fuck it, now I feel the same way.

At this point, I know for a fact that my life will be objectively worse if Kamala steals this, because Kamala is functionally indistinguishable from Biden. And my life is currently objectively worse under Biden than it was under Trump.

I don't demand perfection from my leaders. That would be impossible, as literally everybody who wants to go into government is some form of sociopath, and I still believe that they are all evil... All I ask is that their actions and policies make my life better, or at the very least *not* worse.

I can say that about Trump. Couldn't say it about Biden, and I sure as shit can't say it about Kamala.
 
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i guess george isn't the only one
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every time i see a post like this I'm reminded of that time twitter lunatic Matt Wallace said he had information that would lead to the arrest of Nikki Haley (and tried to quasi black mail her with it) and then he released his nothing burger and nobody cared. lol
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The Ugly One said:
The House remained Democratic, and failed legislation rarely if ever gets a second go, so what you're saying is he should have done nothing and maintained the status quo.

Got it.
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You have your head stuck in the past.

They use this bill to deflect, and ultimately, to attack.

“We have no physical database.” Says the ATF to prevent further regulation against it.

But they have warehouses worth of FFL transactions (that they can now store indefinitely instead of 20 years).

Servers worth of serial numbers/data that they can “trace,” should they have a gun, and they want to find its owner. To give back the gun, of course. The only thing that makes it “legal” is the fact they search only by serial number.

Unwise impatience is the friend of encroachment. This law is case in point in my eyes.
 
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