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I think the real interesting question is who was the worst GOP president in the 20th century: bush sr or Reagan?
Maybe throw Harding in Hoover in that race too, but I don’t know nearly enough about them to actually say if that’s fair. All I know is Harding had corruption issues and Hoover was in charge when the depression hit.

That said, I do think all 4 maybe get saved from the bottom 5 of the century because the dems have: FDR, LBJ, Wilson, and Carter. That question really comes down to how you rate slick Willy.
I want to say Hoover, he completely fumbled right out of the gate because he didn't listen to any of Coolidge's advice and actually did the opposite of everything Coolidge said and ended up making a what would have been a natural recession that would fix itself very fast into a depression by increasing the size of government. I can't be too hard on Hoover though since we all know that the brunt of the Great Depression was spurred on by FDR and Hoover didn't actually intend to create problems, he was just too hard headed and misguided.

I also want to say something about Harding too but the dude died only 2 years into his presidency so I don't even know if he really counts as the worst anyway, besides he made a brilliant choice with Coolidge as his VP lol
 
George W was the worst R ever.

The housing bubble and the crash were hand creations from his Treasury team.

The TARP vote is what sealed their doom. The lying about WMD was a juicer to just reinforce how bad he was.

Nixon lied on tape about misusing the CIA, that was his crime. People suicided over the 2007 crash and a few put the bullet in their own children.

The entire country of Iceland went bankrupt.


No other R president comes anywhere close.
The Great Recession happened under Dubya, but Clinton set it in motion by repealing the Glass-Steagall Act, which opened the way for big banks to invest in real estate. Concurrently, he encouraged coerced banks into giving out subprime mortgages with adjustable rates to people with bad credit.
 
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She just said she’s going to expand the middle class tax. And she’s now denying answering the question to Anderson Cooper.

What a wild fucking response from Cooper to ask if she grieves. He hates her guts.
The media is furious at her because she's giving them nothing to work with. They're supposed to puff the Dems but you can only do so much when they faceplant every step they take. It's like if you asked a crooked ref to fix a boxing match and give the win to a comatose guy who literally has to be wheeled into the ring in a gurney.
 
The Great Recession happened under Dubya, but Clinton set it in motion by repealing the Glass-Steagall Act, which opened the way for big banks to invest in real estate. Concurrently, he encouraged banks to give out subprime mortgages with adjustable rates to peopel with bad credit.
encouraged is too polite of word for what Clinton did, coerced is more like it. He basically threatened Fair housing/lending lawsuits if they didn't give out loans to more afro-americans, quality of the applicant be damned.
 
If the schitzo rumors that she was only picked because Biden wanted to sabotage his own party for revenge were true,
I really doubt it. The primary factors were that she was the logical "default" choice being the VP and all the Biden campaign money would be legal to transfer to her, but not any other candidate. There was very little time to prepare and choosing anybody besides Kamala would put them even further behind.

Not that it seems to have worked out particularly well for them, but it was the most sensible choice given the situation.
 
But that was the status quo when Reagan took office. Do you wish that he had left the status quo in place?
It was Regan who pushed gun control with the 1986 and 1989 gun bills and don't get me started on Clinton. People fought back and clawed their rights back from these authoritarian nutters in charge.
i guess george isn't the only one
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I hope they break with it and show us the news because I'm tired of being blue-balled however I think the biggest scandal will be with Act-blue and foreign dark money.
 
Regarding the UK Labour activists, I'm not sure Kier Stammer made the right decision when its more than a coinflip that America would elect someone hurt by this. Someone known for being vengeful.
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encouraged is too polite of word for what Clinton did, coereced is more like it. He basically threatened Fair housing/lending lawsuits if they didn't give out loans to more afro-americans, quality of the applicant be damned.
Truth. I try to err on the side of charity when I don't know or can't remember all the facts.
 
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George W was the worst R ever.
Back then Democrats railed against him on the border, and it was a common point of mockery on the liberal late night shows. The unions and the Sierra club screeched about how it impacted wages and the environment, the cartels were winning a war against the Mexican government, and MS13 was a looming threat "we can't let happen here".

Good thing they stopped all that from happening... wait a minute.
 
The Great Recession happened under Dubya, but Clinton set it in motion by repealing the Glass-Steagall Act, which opened the way for big banks to invest in real estate. Concurrently, he encouraged banks to give out subprime mortgages with adjustable rates to peopel with bad credit.
Bush juiced FHA in his 2002 housing plan rollout which is basically the kid walking into the candy store that Clinton opened.

Then Fed and Treasury and FINRA all ok the tranche setup that allowed the trillion dollar of super risky bank debt to appear like AAA bonds.

Private market did the rest. I had an ex boyfriend who had come off his coke bender and landed a job as a mortgage broker (job that almost doesn't exist anymore), and his job was to find people to sign those ARM mortgages. He bought a sweet GT with the money.

And we split and I moved states and couple years later dated a guy that had worked at Lehman. He saw the shit from the other end of those transactions and it was like 9/11 happened all over again. He was big time paranoid for a year.
 
I think this provides a little more key information for my earlier theory:
My assumption is that, considering the time she came out with price control of some sort I think and was rightfully mocked, there is the Policy She's Been Told To Talk (all lies, or at least not what she wants to do, but largely electable) and the Policy She Wants To Do (her true feelings, but will lose her the election because it's blatantly awful/outside of what the party's voters want/will provoke a knee-jerk response).

The former is what she's drilled on, but she can't remember it in even the slightest pinch and keep her momentum going - and as a presidential candidate, on the back foot, she's under pressure 24/7. The latter is things she could say while keeping the momentum going, but it's blatantly awful stuff, and she's been firmly pressured not to say anything like that. There may be some overlap, but not anything she can pick apart safely in the moment. So when the pressure builds, she can neither say what she wants, nor what she has to.

And unfortunately, the Dems have spent the last 8 years conditioning every single one of them with a default response in that situation: Orange Man Bad. Everyone else has spent eight years building up a tolerance at best, and an instinctive revulsion at worst, to exactly that response. So Harris locks up, defaults to the basic output, and everyone else calls her out or sees straight through it.
There isn't just one Policy She's Been Told To Talk. There's multiple, conflicting ones. So there's more like three-or-four different directions being pulled here.
 
It was Regan who pushed gun control with the 1986 and 1989 gun bills and don't get me started on Clinton. People fought back and clawed their rights back from these authoritarian nutters in charge.

I hope they break with it and show us the news because I'm tired of being blue-balled however I think the biggest scandal will be with Act-blue and foreign dark money.
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