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CaddestSlown said:
Hey uh. Why would anyone record this? Ever? I will not accept 'because they're retarded' as an answer. I smell bait. Second person is recording... why, exactly?
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If it's real? Worst case scenario it gets swept under the rug completely. Best case scenario a news outlet reports it and the two of them get to sue for a hundred million dollars. But I doubt theyre intelligent enough to consider long-term consequences.
 
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DrearyDoomguy said:
That's because they first have to establish what they can still convict him of after the immunity ruling. They would have to ram all of that through in the space of two months, and even then they likely couldn't put him in an actual jail due to secret service protection, so it would in all likelihood be some form of house arrest. And then there would be the matter of appeals. So even if they tried that it wouldn't do them much good.
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You're mixing up the Federal Insurrection Case with the State Hush Money case, there is no question of immunity in the Hush Money case because it all happened before he took office.

The Insurrection Case hasn't even gone to trial, the Hush Money case is where he got 30+ Felonies, and that's the case the Chaukin can send him to jail on.
 
CaddestSlown said:
Hey uh. Why would anyone record this? Ever? I will not accept 'because they're retarded' as an answer. I smell bait. Second person is recording... why, exactly?
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Counterpoint:Hunter Biden. If you think you are immune to consequences you can do anything, especially if you are a druggie shithead faggot that want to brag how cool and untouchable you are because of your daddy
 
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Fapcop said:
Other nations have fleets too, Europe, China, India, Japan, Russia, and when their exports or imports suffer, they’d send them off to fix it. Without being retarded and pretending they need a billion dollar carrier to stop some Somalis in a rowing boat.
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The US Navy is the only one capable of projecting its power anywhere in the world, except maybe the UK (and they're a far cry from Admiral Nelson's days in terms of strength), and operates on a fundamentally different scale than other navies, down to the scale of their ships. I don't think Russia, for example, could get any ships from the Arctic to the Cape of Good Hope without catching on fire, and they sure aren't getting the Black Sea fleet anywhere other than the bottom of said sea anytime soon. "Europe" is not a nation. China would be as likely to engage in predation as they would be to crack down on it.
 
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Polyboros2 said:
You're mixing up the Federal Insurrection Case with the State Hush Money case, there is no question of immunity in the Hush Money case because it all happened before he took office.
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That's incorrect. The immunity ruling ended up delaying the New York sentencing as well. They charged him for having Cohen cover up the records, which happened after he took office. Sentencing was scheduled for early July before the ruling came down.
 
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CaddestSlown said:
Hey uh. Why would anyone record this? Ever? I will not accept 'because they're retarded' as an answer. I smell bait. Second person is recording... why, exactly?
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Is it real? I don't know. Are there people out there stupid enough that this could be real? Yes. Especially if (a) this is something they've gotten away with before and (b) they're used to being only around people who would regard doing this as good behaviour. Both of which are entirely possible.

It's a lot of trouble to go to if it's fake. Not an insurmountable amount of trouble but by going to so much you are only inviting even more trouble on yourself by bringing down a genuine investigation on your own head.

So... on the balance of probabilities with it being unlikely someone smart enough to do such a good job is also dumb enough to do this in the first place, I'm going to guess real.

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The US Navy is the only one capable of projecting its power anywhere in the world, except maybe the UK (and they're a far cry from Admiral Nelson's days in terms of strength), and operates on a fundamentally different scale than other navies, down to the scale of their ships. I don't think Russia, for example, could get any ships from the Arctic to the Cape of Good Hope without catching on fire, and they sure aren't getting the Black Sea fleet anywhere other than the bottom of said sea anytime soon. "Europe" is not a nation. China would be as likely to engage in predation as they would be to crack down on it.
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The UK can project force. Just not much of it. Even the last trident missile test was a failure with the missile jumping out the top of the sub and plopping into the water about thirty metres away (not intentionally). The USA can project a lot of force. But the question is whether in this day and age it can stand up against a peer nation. Aircraft carriers are very sophisticated with a lot of clever defences. But I still doubt that they'd stay seaworthy in the face of a few hypersonic missiles from China or Russia. Even second tier militaries are getting into the level of sophistication they can pose a threat to naval ships. I feel the age of the carrier is over but there's so much invested in them and such big business involved, that it will only be acknowledged if / when there's a hot war between the USA and a power like Russia or China. Until then, they'll keep being made.
 
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grump said:
I like how Youtubers are releasing 11th hour videos trying to save their baby Kamala titled 'Who is he really?' as if we haven't already lived through a full term of Trump as President and he hasn't been the most xrayed person in history for almost a decade now.
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Just shows you how much money she has to burn on this election compared to him. Paying YouTubers 15-20k a video to make videos attacking Trump, that's what these 11th hour videos are, paid for by the Democrats.
 
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Mark Goldbridge said:
The media have changed the narrative yet again that this election is a "referendum on Trump"

No it isn't, they only do this because Kamala has no new policies and is the status quo option in a poor incumbent administration.. She's the one that was in power the past 4 years to make you poorer, not Trump.
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As of late, she's done her best to boost the Not-Kamala vote past the Not-Trump vote. Even us chuds weren't expecting her to lose a debate with Anderson Cooper.
 
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