African-American Appreciation Thread - Highlighting contributions from our most productive citizens

[Rootless Cosmopolitan]

When I was back in school the argument made for this belief was usually along the lines of the SAT/ACT/etc. only tests skills that certain demographics are good at, like reading, writing, math and abstract reasoning and obviously blacks score lower on these tests because they're just as intelligent, but in different ways like having a better grasp of musicality and rhythm (an actual thing a teacher told me once). ...But that's the exact fucking point of those tests, to score people on shit that applies in academia. Asians score better than everyone else on them because they're generally better at those skills than other demographics, it's an ingrained part of their culture.

The excuses change continuously. “Ways of knowing”, “tests are culturally biased”, etc etc.

Ultimately the main good argument I’ve seen is that maybe there’s a difference in prenatal nutrition and so on which is meaningful and has an impact on intelligence. I believe this might be part of it because poor people eat fkn literal garbage, even while pregnant…

… but what’s cause and what’s effect here? Are they eating garbage while pregnant BECAUSE they are retarded (and thus unable to reason about long term consequences)? I don’t know. I suspect it’s a bit of both.

 

[Belisarius Cawl]

"'Cuz ah'm blak an ah'm a feemale?"

At least one of those things contributed to your shoplifting, so, yeah, kinda. Also "how iz u gon deetane me wen u dont know who ah am?" Apparently the sheboon is like an ancient Middle Eastern god and you can only gain power over her if she reveals her true name.

 

[Evilronald]

Nigger runs red light and hits white teenage girl going 96. Dozens of offenses. Somali as usual.

 

[Turquoise]

and all that aside
>(blacks) having a better grasp of musicality and rhythm
is downright untrue, they simply happen to make the most popular music

that's like saying people working at mcdonalds are more inclined towards being better at cooking

I believe you have made a couple of mistakes.

1. The popularity of modern black music can hardly be said to be organic. It is forcefully promoted for political purposes.

2. Blacks definitely do have better senses of rhythm and pitch as compared to other races on average. Pre-contact tribes in Africa were noted for having come up with singing arrangements that, from a theoretical perspective, were very impressive - especially impressive since the Africans themselves had no concept of the moves they were pulling. Studies have shown that black children have better rhythm too. They are more likely to be on the beat than their non-black peers who, for fear of missing the beat, often come in too early.

So why no Floyds*, Beatles or Bartoks? It's because they don't have the higher order thinking to accompany their innate musicality, so their creative capacities are more limited. Indeed, many whites find themselves blessed with great musical ability but lack the other intellectual gifts to make any good use of it. Think of all the pop idol contestants who can belt out a tune but couldn't write a 3 chord knees up let alone anything of creative note.

* No jokes, please

 

[The Taco Santo!]

"'Cuz ah'm blak an ah'm a feemale?"

At least one of those things contributed to your shoplifting, so, yeah, kinda. Also "how iz u gon deetane me wen u dont know who ah am?" Apparently the sheboon is like an ancient Middle Eastern god and you can only gain power over her if she reveals her true name.

Can't a black family take a single trip to a store that doesn't end up with some/all of them in cuffs acting retarded and histrionic? And of course, the never-ending stories.

"I didn't do that thing!" OK.

 

[Belisarius Cawl]

Nigger runs red light and hits white teenage girl going 96. Dozens of offenses. Somali as usual.

Light bulb heads and barbecue enthusiasts being foisted on us really seems to be redpilling a lot of people

10 minute-old video folks, nice and fresh:

"Birthday Bash Chaos At Popeyes: Shots Fired, but Everyone Swears 'In the Name of Jesus, No Gun Here!"
I.e. ON GAH, NO CAP NO CAP NO CAP, and I just started the video but the preview tells me the nigger cop is going to be the biggest hardass at the crime scene.

 

[Turquoise]

Asians aren't even better on average. The ones in America just represent the cream of the ethnic crop.

From the evidence available, I think it's likely that East Asians are indeed a few points higher than whites in IQ. Remember though, intelligence isn't the only component necessary to build a civilization or to innovate. Whites are almost certainly more adventurous and less conformist.

In any case, even if it were true that whites are actually smarter than them on average, maintaining that East Asians are more intelligent than whites gives you incredible leverage in any debate with a leftist who wants to tell you you're a white supremacist or that the education system is designed to benefit white people.

 

[Belisarius Cawl]

In any case, even if it were true that whites are actually smarter than them on average, maintaining that East Asians are more intelligent than whites gives you incredible leverage in any debate with a leftist who wants to tell you you're a white supremacist or that the education system is designed to benefit white people.

The differences are even more profound when it comes to average income but do you really think any of that matters to these people who blame violent nigger-on-Asian crime on white supremacy?

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

The excuses change continuously. “Ways of knowing”, “tests are culturally biased”, etc etc.

Ultimately the main good argument I’ve seen is that maybe there’s a difference in prenatal nutrition and so on which is meaningful and has an impact on intelligence. I believe this might be part of it because poor people eat fkn literal garbage, even while pregnant…

… but what’s cause and what’s effect here? Are they eating garbage while pregnant BECAUSE they are retarded (and thus unable to reason about long term consequences)? I don’t know. I suspect it’s a bit of both.

there IS some truth to tests being innacurate, since after all they are made by humans and are thus flawed
as well as IQ as a simple number that can be attained from one test and express a person's entire generalized intellectual abilities is untrue

IQ tests aren't really a good measure of a single individual's intellect, no one's intellectual abilities are "98" whatever that means, humans are organic and our minds are vast and complex and there's no test on earth to concretely categorize them
they're more useful for statistics, the generalized intellectual level of a country or community, if one guy scores 80 on one single test, that's meaningless
if a whole country is regularly scoring 80 on multiple tests, then you can start making assertions

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

IQ tests aren't really a good measure of a single individual's intellect, no one's intellectual abilities are "98" whatever that means, humans are organic and our minds are vast and complex and there's no test on earth to concretely categorize them

The best IQ tests I've seen test pattern recognition, not fact memorization. They don't test how quickly you can write down your multiplication tables, but how quickly you can recognize a pattern and extrapolate the next part of the pattern (eg: 12, 13, 15, 18, 22, 27, 33. What comes next?)

40 comes next. 12+1=13, 13+2=15, 15+3=18, 18+4=22, 22+5=27, 27+6=33, 33+7=40

 

[Atomic Ant]

no one's intellectual abilities are "98" whatever that means

Surely you dont think the math people havent had a go at this? Its not a completely subjective number pulled out of someones ass like the "Scoville heat scale" (which is actually a bullshit scale). I can tell you exactly what 98 means: test results are sorted from best to worst, and fit to a normal distribution with mean = 100 and standard deviation = 15. You can back calculate the percentile from the distribution using Z score and a normal distribution calculator.

z = (98 - 100) / 15 = -0.1333
plug that into here (dont change mean and std. dev, as we already calculated Z) https://stattrek.com/online-calculator/normal
you can also use a normal distribution lookup table if you distrust calculators. We get that P( x < 98 )= .494

therefore a 98 IQ score represents someone at the 49.4th percentile of test results. If you accept that the test result is a proxy for intelligence (you are welcome not to) then it represents someone who is smarter than 49.4% of people and dumber than the other 50.6%

 

[Unique Username KF]

The best IQ tests I've seen test pattern recognition, not fact memorization.

There are no legitimate IQ tests that test fact memorization.

 

[Cuntspiracy Man]

Surely you dont think the math people havent had a go at this? Its not a completely subjective number pulled out of someones ass like the "Scoville heat scale" (which is actually a bullshit scale). I can tell you exactly what 98 means: test results are sorted from best to worst, and fit to a normal distribution with mean = 100 and standard deviation = 15. You can back calculate the percentile from the distribution using Z score and a normal distribution calculator.

z = (98 - 100) / 15 = -0.1333
plug that into here (dont change mean and std. dev, as we already calculated Z) https://stattrek.com/online-calculator/normal
you can also use a normal distribution lookup table if you distrust calculators. We get that P( x < 98 )= .494

therefore a 98 IQ score represents someone at the 49.4th percentile of test results. If you accept that the test result is a proxy for intelligence (you are welcome not to) then it represents someone who is smarter than 49.4% of people and dumber than the other 50.6%

that's exactly the point i was making, these tests Only work as part of a statistic, they are meaningless alone

but even as part of a group they can still be incorrect due to the amount of room for error in the test itself

 

[Atomic Ant]

that's exactly the point i was making, these tests Only work as part of a statistic

Statistic (n) - a function of a sample taken from a population (contrast with parameter - a function of a population). Statistics estimate parameters. Thats what they do.

they are meaningless alone

If what you're trying to say is that a single test result in a vacuum is meaningless, then I agree with you. However we dont do that, we give an IQ test to lots of people and then compare one result against all the other results. The score you get on an IQ test is not "how many questions did you get right" its "how many questions did you get right compared to everyone else who took the test"

but even as part of a group they can still be incorrect due to the amount of room for error in the test itself

Again if you think the test fails to do the job of being a proxy for intelligence, then you can hold that opinion. Even if you do hold that opinion, it wouldnt mean that IQ results are meaningless or arbitrary, it would just mean that it's not testing for what you think it should be testing for. A person who got a 98 would still have done better than 49.4% of the field*, regardless of whether you think that is an important result.

*We assume a normal distribution is appropriate here. Higher moments may be involved (skew, kurtosis) but there is no consensus on that, and normality is at least a very good approximation. In the context of fitting results from a small local or ethnic subpopulation, this problem literally goes away due to central limit theorem. But im getting overly technical here

 

[Adam Basile Woodrow]

Found it funny

 

[Evilronald]

Found it funny

Buckbroken niggers. They also are the most likely to be gay of any race.

“Belligerent man” = nigger. Gets kicked off plane because he’s drunk and out of control. How do they afford these plane tickets with how expensive air travel is now?

 

[Troon_Patrol]

“Belligerent man” = nigger. Gets kicked off plane because he’s drunk and out of control. How do they afford these plane tickets with how expensive air travel is now?

Niggers and airports...lol. The "social contract" doubles in airports, be polite, obey the rules, abstain from drugs and alcohol in excess or just completely. Truly the genesis of all these hilarious Nigger VS Airport videos.

Honestly my biggest question is how the fuck the that nigger found a goodwill or some kind of second hand clothing store from 2005? I get the strong feeling he was wearing some FUBU underwear as well. Reminds me when Chris Chan wore that Ferrari Polo someone gave to the goodwill.


@Evilronald , there are all kinds of reason some dirt bag gets a plane ticket for low/no cost. Lot of NGO's getting exploited giving free airline tickets, CC fraud etc etc.


Somewhat related: Any time a major US city hosts a big event like the DNC, they "clean house" bus the homeless out of the city or setup temporary housing WAY the fuck outside anywhere the event is being held. Remember Mayor of NYC Eric Adams? I think he's under indictment for something right now, don't recall the details. IDK if the rest of you follow politics as closely as I do but, he was was of the "Venezuelans good! Send 'em here" cut to just about 12 months later not only crime but, violent crime, gang crime and sophisticated crime like Bank fraud and social services fraud jumped something like 400%, Adams retracted the bussing illegals north into NYC was good thing publicly, which I found extremely odd for any US political figure holding office of that stature to do a full 180 on policy they held that strongly and were very outspoken about. As I said I think he's currently under investigation or something along with the higher ups of NYPD for corruption or bribery something.

For all who don't know who I'm talking about place your bets now.

Spoiler: Mayor Eric Adams

 

[Belisarius Cawl]

there IS some truth to tests being innacurate, since after all they are made by humans and are thus flawed
as well as IQ as a simple number that can be attained from one test and express a person's entire generalized intellectual abilities is untrue

IQ tests aren't really a good measure of a single individual's intellect, no one's intellectual abilities are "98" whatever that means, humans are organic and our minds are vast and complex and there's no test on earth to concretely categorize them
they're more useful for statistics, the generalized intellectual level of a country or community, if one guy scores 80 on one single test, that's meaningless
if a whole country is regularly scoring 80 on multiple tests, then you can start making assertions

Machine learning, even short of deep learning which is in the news constantly these days, is now heavily tailored to make predictions about individuals. There are very limited results for public datasets containing information about IQ and individuals but I would not be surprised if it's been used as a metric for individual performance in datasets that don't end up on sites like Kaggle and I would be very surprised if it were not at least in principle useful towards that end. Be aware that machine learning almost always deals with more than one variable, so as opposed to measuring only the correlation between IQ and income (which is of course positive but hardly definitive), other variables like gender and family income can be inputs to a learning algorithm to produce much more bespoke predictions about single individuals.

Surely you dont think the math people havent had a go at this? Its not a completely subjective number pulled out of someones ass like the "Scoville heat scale" (which is actually a bullshit scale).

Originally it was measured using what looks like psychophysics methods which adds a certain degree of subjectivity but these days it's a matter of analytical chemistry. It's about as objective as it can be.

Found it funny

"Tomorrow you might not be alive"

AIDS do be like dat

Niggers and airports...lol. The "social contract" doubles in airports, be polite, obey the rules, abstain from drugs and alcohol in excess or just completely.

Airlines will let you get pretty tanked, possibly as a means of alleviating anxiety and stress about flight, as long as you don't act like the nigger in the video. I'm guessing there's a cost/benefit analysis where the cost of one hammered nigger getting arrested is worth hundreds of others being more willing to buy a ticket.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

How do they afford these plane tickets with how expensive air travel is now?

They max out the ol' credit card. Their lack of forward thinking means, as far as they're concerned, those debts are another nigger's problem now. And when those debts get called in, they'll chimp out, because as far as they know, they didn't max out the credit card; some other nigger did.

 

[Mukhrani]

Statistic (n) - a function of a sample taken from a population (contrast with parameter - a function of a population). Statistics estimate parameters. Thats what they do.

God bless you, but I gave up on arguing about IQ with people ages ago. It's the exact same thing as arguing with a creationist. A creationist does not disagree with evolution because they looked at all the argument and found some problem with them that needs to be addressed, they actively believe in a separate paradigm which precludes evolution being true and so will constantly look for any excuse to not believe in it.

When it comes to IQ doubts, the people who are in denial generally fit into one of three groups. The first are black people who refuse to acknowledge the reality that black people are generally tiresome and that people just don't want to be around their shenaningans. Instead they live in this delusional world where black people are this font of human ingenuity and knowledge which the evil white people need to exploit in order to maintain modern civilization. The second are jeets who are incredibly salty about their shithole country having an average IQ that puts them barely over Jamal, and want to pretend to be 'Asian' as if that puts them on equal footing with the altogether superior East Asians. The last are insufferable white people who have a fervent religious belief in absolute, tabula-rasa equality.

You can actually get through to black people on this topic surprisingly enough way easier than the other two groups. There's no point trying to get through to the jeet, they are retarded in a way that goes beyond IQ and is bone-deep - completely impervious to reality. But the most militant group is the last one - liberal white people/Jews will twist around for hours without admitting a single point in your favor and will loathe you for even lightly defending the idea of deviations between averages among racial groups.