Fewer Young men are having sex, why? - And why the sex disparity?

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I'm sure you are well familiar with this topic. There's potentially numerous reasons.

I'm curious to hear your explanation on why young people are having relationships and sex much less than prior generations. And why it affects men so much more.

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I think it's a simple as that it's hard to meet women. Young people of a certain age group came of age with dating apps, and with it an expectation that women must only be asked out in that scenario, when they're putting themselves on display to be dated like a cattle to be purchased.

These apps don't favor most men. A guy who is funny and charming but otherwise ordinary can do well in the real world, but less so online.

Less IRL forming of relationships makes for less physical intimacy, in my opinion.

Edit to add: I shouldn't have compared women to cattle and I take that back. It was clumsy wording.
 
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2008 is an interesting year because that's when the iphone and smart phones became wide spread.
I think instant access to porn is the culprit.
i would love to know what that percentage is among heterosexuals who watch anime or are furries.
I imagine once you start jerking your shit to highly specific imagined, usually impossible scenarios like vore and NTR, realistic sex becomes boring
 
-Dating apps making it a buyers market for women who don't have to settle for sub-par LOOKING men (looking is emphasized for a reason).
-Men generally being legally punished for what were normal sexual/general relationship practices a decade ago
-A lot of Men no longer have the buying power to afford to date/marry/raise a family than men a decade ago had.
-The proliferation of Porn and the moral decay around its growing acceptance leading to unhealthy masturbatory addictions in men (what it does to women is really no better) that leads to them not seeking out another partner to satisfy themselves sexually.

I could go on and on. But these are the big reasons for why Men are simply leaving the dating market.
2008 is an interesting year because that's when the iphone and smart phones became wide spread.
I think instant access to porn is the culprit.
i would love to know what that percentage is among heterosexuals who watch anime or are furries.
I imagine once you start jerking your shit to highly specific imagined, usually impossible scenarios like vore and NTR, realistic sex becomes boring
No, it was the 2008 housing bubble that devastated the middle class and made dating economically unviable for a large portion of men entering the devastated labor market. Smartphones took a few more years to start having a pronounced affect on the dating market.
 
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This is not hard to understand or see the root of it. Men have to work harder to get laid. The entire courting process in most societies puts the onus on them—So dates and the financial cost are all men's problem. It has gotten harder to find a quality partner in the past couple decades. Western men are experiencing a problem similar to Japan's but for different reasons, it is essentially the "why bother" problem. Combine what I said with environmental factors (modern societies sees you as a blight, women can just retroactively revoke consent), and courting a woman turns into just another thing you have to deal with.
For most young men, money is tight. Women have been getting progressively crazier in recent times.

If you are not a gambler, why the everloving fuck would you go and gamble your time and money on a woman who is likely to not even work out?

"Okay so why has it gotten harder?"
—Gayman Nigsby
Social media and dating apps are largely to blame.

The human brain is wired to account for local factors. If you have 50 men and 50 women in a village, each side is aware of the shrinking supply of partners as others pair up.
Dating apps has offered a trick for the brain to tell women that there is essentially an infinite supply of high quality men out there ready for them.
If you apply this to the village example, you have 35 men and 35 women having paired up. 15 men want to pair up, but 15 women are holding out because they heard tell from smoke signals that there is far better men in a village a few hundred miles over.

Slight powerlevel but this is my perspective as a married man with children. So it may not be 1-to-1 with the plights or perspective than an actual man facing trouble would have.
 
I think it's a simple as that it's hard to meet women. Young people of a certain age group came of age with dating apps, and with it an expectation that women must only be asked out in that scenario, when they're putting themselves on display to be dated like a cattle to be purchased.

These apps don't favor most men. A guy who was funny and charming but otherwise ordinary can do well in the real world, but less so online.

Less IRL forming of relationships makes for less physical intimacy, in my opinion.
This is a true phenomenon, due to the high amount of men on these apps compared to women, they can be much more selective. Men in their 30s with careers and houses get selected by women 10 years younger.

But I think this just scratches the surface, there's so much more going on. Many young men feel hopeless, even giving up. Some women feel similarly. This is unheard of.
What if young men are still have sex, but the people who say they don't are outing themselves as young men who don't have sex?
This is widely reported and repeated independently. I don't generally take stats at face value but this one is relatively accurate.

2008 is an interesting year because that's when the iphone and smart phones became wide spread.
I think instant access to porn is the culprit.
i would love to know what that percentage is among heterosexuals who watch anime or are furries.
I imagine once you start jerking your shit to highly specific imagined, usually impossible scenarios like vore and NTR, realistic sex becomes boring
Very true. The internet has given rise to bubbles of micro niches that could never exist previously. Autists and terminally online virgins just spiral down rabbit holes of specific fixations, departing ever further from reality.

I'll take it a step further and say as a general culture, we're losing an understanding of what sex really is. It's intimacy, physical interaction, trust, communication. Porn doesn't tell you about that. And hyper-specific fetish porn removes the emotional human element entirely, focusing on things.

If these furries and other terminally online coomers actually got a date with a grounded traditional girl they'd have nothing to talk about. Only other dysfunctionals might speak their language.
 
Because us Gen-Z aren't having crazy ass white people house parties anymore with questionably consensual sexual antics.
 
But I think this just scratches the surface, there's so much more going on.
For me, the invention of dating apps and their addition into the mainstream has been one of the most massive shifts in human behavior I've ever seen in my life.

Back in the day, if a woman wanted to date, she might paint a canvas image of a factory. She would set up a chair with her artist board within view of the building and start painting, hoping a nice, handsome man talked to her.

Now, that's impossible.

I wouldn't say dating apps are a small surface level thing, but rather a deeply rooted force.
 
It's a multifactorial attack from all sides.
Culturally, there are more activities which don't require people to come together, everybody nowadays goes online, and being online lets you pre-filter for your own interests, which also means young people stick to easily-accessible, time-sink communities which often have a severe sex bias.

There's also a reduction in 'accidental' meetups, people go to the store less and less, and either do delivery, or get takeaway, there's also no requirement to group people to experience culture, you'll never run into someone at the movies, you rarely go to bars, etc.

There's also the health crisis, average male testosterone levels have HALVED in the past 20-25 years, there are "healthy young men" nowadays whose body has never seen more than 200ng/dL of T.
250ng/dl is what you would expect a pubescent, but not yet adult child to have, these people are hormonal man-children.

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Obesity is also a huge problem, because excessive adipose tissue will convert testosterone to estrogen (via aromatization), combine that with earlier puberty due to endocrine disruption, and you have early growth spurs, which are also stopped early, as estrogen is the hormone that triggers the fusing of bones, and you have a generation of fat, short poofs.

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In addition to a severe lack of sex hormones, there's also a fueling mental health crisis that people just handwave away as "we diagnose more nowadays".
We have more medication today than we've ever had before, we understand these illnesses more than we've ever had before, and yet, rates of Depression are through the roof. Rates of ADHD are through the roof.

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But I've already put my spiel on diet and health in the conspiracy thread, read here.


The scholar gap for boys is also growing wider by the year, but pointing that out and doing anything to fix it will get you labelled as a sexist piece of shit who hates women, and, ironically, will release more retarded, uneducated males nobody wants to employ, which WILL turn to crime, and, as a result, target women.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/boys-left-behind-education-gender-gaps-across-the-us/ / https://ghostarchive.org/archive/nNEaC

Combine all of that with single-parent rates in the US going up 6x since the 1950s, and the one safety net, manual correction, is gone.



Don't take all of this to say that this is a male-only issue, however. Young girls are also being fucked over HARD, partly via endocrine disruption (go ask any Man-Hate thread resident how much they hate birth control, you'll drown in references), but also via pooning:

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And via being called victims by quite literally all lefty media, and therefore being pushed ahead in a lot of positions via DEI policies, this inevitably leads to incompetents being fast-forwarded through the hiring process, which ultimately, this leads to...

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The ideological gap. By framing both sexes as enemies of eachother, as "all men are rapists" and "all women are victims", and then the impact DEI has on hiring incompetent retards, young men see women as talentless leeches who didn't get there on their own merit, and women see men as retarded, raging rapebeasts who would do everything in their power to enslave women whenever.



TL;DR: Culture cornered the mind, Diet slowly hacked at it, Family broke and couldn't mend it, and both Mainstream Media, and Woke ideology, have been driving a stake through the cracks.

The industrial revolution (well, more like the information age) and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
 
I'm highly suspicious. Those past numbers don't line up with my charts either. The article says it was 229 respondents surveyed using 'new surveying methods.' I'll wait to see what the long term shows.

Perhaps it's slightly improving since the lockdowns but the larger root problems I don't see being addressed or improving.
 
Sorry youthcucks, but us middle-age chads are out laying all the pipe while you're sitting at home skibidi rizzing the microplastics out of your balls to anime girls.

For real though I think the majority of the young men being terminally online making them socially retarded on top of shit like #MeToo and decades of "you have a Y chromosome so this is why you're a monster" bullshit have made pursuing relationships not worth the trouble.
 
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