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DSaC said:
James G. Blaine lost to Grover Cleveland despite being the favorite to win all the way to the final week of the campaign, almost exclusively because of a mistake eerily similar to what Trump just did.
He attended a Republican meeting, where a Reverend was speaking. Said Reverend stated "We are Republicans, and don't propose to leave our party and identify ourselves with the party whose antecedents have been rum, Romanism, and rebellion." Blaine was half-asleep at the time and didn't take notice of the comment, but a Democrat operative did, and the Cleveland campaign immediately got to work getting it publicized.
This galvanized the Irish and Catholic voters to come out for Cleveland, which flipped New York, costing Blaine the election.
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Do PR citizens carry as much political weight as the catholics? (which Kamala burned on big dinner thing BTW)

Also just because Trump lost some votes doesn't mean they will go to Kamala, she hasn't done anything to endear her self to them and is still polling way lower in demographics that used to be a sure thing.
 
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FILTH Tourist said:
Do PR citizens carry as much political weight as the catholics? (which Kamala burned on big dinner thing BTW)

Also just because Trump lost some votes doesn't mean they will go to Kamala, she hasn't done anything to endear her self to them and is still polling way lower in demographics that used to be a sure thing.
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Kamala is currently campaigning hard on Puerto Ricans now. By mere luck or gayops, Kamala was doing a rally with PRs when this happened. She thinks she can flip PA to her favor because of the joke.

All jokes aside, it does make me a bit anxious, especially if they use this an excuse to cheat harder in PA. I’m still optimistic that Trump will carry VA though.
 
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Disc said:
More realistically, the October Surprise is the Newspapers cucking out of endorsing anyone. Regardless of the reasons why, stated or otherwise, that's a massive blow to Harris' perceived approval.
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My money's on something in the middle east - if Israel commits a particularly spicy war crime a few days before election day and footage of it goes viral, that might convince enough muslims not to vote for Harris to swing Michigan.
 
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Save the Loli said:
The election was stolen from Blaine. There was no magic Catholic turnout but a little thing called "election fraud", the same thing which will deny Trump his second (actually third) term in office next week.
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Lol, Blaine was only nominated in the first place because he was a Stalwart and therefore loyal to the political machine, and this was also after 2 decades of Republican dominance. He's an OG swamp creature.

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You're talking about a man who said "grab em by the pussy," "I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and they'd still vote for me," was convicted on 34 felony accounts, and has been called Giga Hitler for a decade.
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I'm less concerned about that and more concerned about the fact that Harris/Walz have said shit just as bad as that joke about other demographics. It's still very much not a good thing for Trump, and if he loses the election it's 100% because of this.

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You're talking about a completely different time, a completely different media environment and a candidate for whom the media didn't try to manufacture shit like this every other week
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You're thinking that Late 19th Century Politics are similar to 20th Century Politics. They aren't. "Civil" politics were something that only ever existed in the 20th Century. They were the "weird, out of place" time period, what we're seeing now is a return to how things used to be.

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Do PR citizens carry as much political weight as the catholics? (which Kamala burned on big dinner thing BTW)

Also just because Trump lost some votes doesn't mean they will go to Kamala, she hasn't done anything to endear her self to them and is still polling way lower in demographics that used to be a sure thing.
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They're a significant portion of the population in every swing state. Enough that if they all voted Kamala, it'd flip every single one of them, plus Florida and Texas.
 
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DSaC said:
You're thinking that Late 19th Century Politics are similar to 20th Century Politics. They aren't.
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And you seem to have the strange notion that late 19th century politics are in any way comparable to 21st century politics. You've completely ignored my point about the media environment being completely different due to instant mass communication, for one.
 
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Save the Loli said:
The election was stolen from Blaine. There was no magic Catholic turnout but a little thing called "election fraud", the same thing which will deny Trump his second (actually third) term in office next week.
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I think this year there is just too much motivation for Trump supporters and even people on the fence. Look I get it the shitlib propaganda is strong but look to quote reason here "Americans need to chill the fuck out". At the end of the day we gotta do the same too.
Look I'm concerned I'm very afraid that we can't have another 4 years of the dems and the dems reaction if Trump wins. But at the same time I gotta accept the results especially if they're fair. As for me I know we're not going back anytime soon to politics as usual. But just because of that being the case doesn't mean we can't be civil. We need to chill the fuck out I don't think we will survive a civil war.



 
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Dr J said:
Shapiro wants Kamala to lose so he has a shot in '28. I don't think he'll do her any special favours. He might also be embittered about being passed over for VP
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I agree with this and it has kept me optimistic. Kamala fucked Shapiro hard and I don’t think the IDF stuff had anything to do with it—he’s just more likeable than her and she couldn’t have that.

However, this might motivative true believers to drop ballots at certain counties and claim the Puerto Ricans did it.

I’m trying to remain optimistic and think Trump’s rallies in PA this week will help him, but I need to take my white pills.
 
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Disc said:
More realistically, the October Surprise is the Newspapers cucking out of endorsing anyone. Regardless of the reasons why, stated or otherwise, that's a massive blow to Harris' perceived approval.
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Based Bezos getting libtards to unsubscribe from Amazon prime and pay for shipping on their 200 orders a year.

But really the difference from 2020 with giga censorship and every media org against Trump to 2024 is gigantic.

And again the PR thing is literal meme tier scare tactics from libshits that you have to be a psyop'd retard to even bother with. We went from a week of Trump is a nazi pedo rapist sexist who grabbed a woman by the pussy with epstein to muh comedian saying some basic joke and people unironically thinking it matters cause twitter libtards spam it and msdnc takes a break from wall to wall hitler coverage to cry about it.

Even though Elon bought twitter remember that libs run giant groups to control most community notes and bot shit to the extreme and even though google pajeet and zuck call Trump twice a day their platforms admittedly still mass censor conservatives and push libshit crap like crazy.
 
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Fishmalk Observer said:
Seriously, if you think the kind of puerto rican that would vote for trump would disagree with PR being a fucking shithole you got severe brain issues.
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lol I guess too many Mexicans and Cubans said they 're voting for Trump so Kamala got stuck with the Ricans who can vote only when they're on US soil, not in...Puerto Rico.
 
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Nuns with guns said:
Kamala is currently campaigning hard on Puerto Ricans now. By mere luck or gayops, Kamala was doing a rally with PRs when this happened. She thinks she can flip PA to her favor because of the joke.

All jokes aside, it does make me a bit anxious, especially if they use this an excuse to cheat harder in PA. I’m still optimistic that Trump will carry VA though.
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The media has been screaming that Trump is a racist for eight years. Focusing on this is a mistake for the Dems because it will do nothing to change anyone's mind. Anyone who knows anything about Trump has already figured out how they perceive his attitudes on race and how it affects their support or opposition towards him. The same goes for accusations that "Trump groped me 30 years ago." We've seen it all before. An October surprise needs to be just that - surprising.
 
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