Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Idiot Sandwich the 3rd]

A little repost from the SJW art thread
Apparently troons are making this meme format outright admitting that they in fact are creepy skinwalking weirdos that troon out into their female friends or family.


I genuinely dont understand where the joke would be in this? If I saw this meme I would think it was made by a terf or a gender critical person. But ive seen many forms of this same "joke" from troons and their allies.

Troons are being very self aware of how scummy they are, I used to give them the benefit of the doubt thinking "oh these silly trannies, they dont understand how creepy they are to other people" But seeing that the punchline is that the female character is always weirded or creep out, they know, they are admitting they make women uncomfortable and making fun of that.

Are people really ok with this? I've seen a good number of handmaidens post as well, how can this be acceptable to them and not creepy? Troons are literally admitting on being skinwalking creeps and getting away with it like its nothing.
It makes me loose a lot of hope in society

 

[Tragi-Chan]

A little repost from the SJW art thread
Apparently troons are making this meme format outright admitting that they in fact are creepy skinwalking weirdos that troon out into their female friends or family.
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I genuinely dont understand where the joke would be in this? If I saw this meme I would think it was made by a terf or a gender critical person. But ive seen many forms of this same "joke" from troons and their allies.

Troons are being very self aware of how scummy they are, I used to give them the benefit of the doubt thinking "oh these silly trannies, they dont understand how creepy they are to other people" But seeing that the punchline is that the female character is always weirded or creep out, they know, they are admitting they make women uncomfortable and making fun of that.

Are people really ok with this? I've seen a good number of handmaidens post as well, how can this be acceptable to them and not creepy? Troons are literally admitting on being skinwalking creeps and getting away with it like its nothing.
It makes me loose a lot of hope in society

I suspect that this will be one of those things that troons will proudly meme about until “transphobes” catch on and start posting the exact same memes as evidence of troons being creepy perverts. Whereupon the troons will declare this a transphobic meme.

 

[enaR]

I've had a few conversations and notice a pattern I don't see discussed too much. I have people that knew me for a while and trust me enough to answer some pretty blunt questions. It goes something like:
"Well, why don't you want to be a man or woman?"
And instead of the answered you'd expect, they give these non gendered answers. I'll be expected to start a family, be competent, be emotionally strong, get a job, etc.

These people are usually non-binary and it becomes clear that what they want to "opt out" of isn't gender roles, but the social expectations placed on adults of both sexes. I kind of wish that the "being trans requires gender dysphoria" camp hadn't lost so hard. A lot of this particular strain has had very fucked up lives and this is just giving them justifications for what's understandable but maladjusted and unhealthy behavior.

I dunno, I feel like I'm a compassionate person (despite having an account here, lol) but the main thing that makes me hate this stuff is that it's distracting people from actual underlying issues that need to be addressed if they ever want to be happy or functional. They need to grow up if they're ever going to be fulfilled. That's just the human condition.

 

[TruffleSpark]

I suspect that this will be one of those things that troons will proudly meme about until “transphobes” catch on and start posting the exact same memes as evidence of troons being creepy perverts. Whereupon the troons will declare this a transphobic meme.

the "cotton ceiling" is probably the most prominent example of that, troons swear up and down that this never happened

 

[Ol' Chunk O' Coal]

I've had a few conversations and notice a pattern I don't see discussed too much. I have people that knew me for a while and trust me enough to answer some pretty blunt questions. It goes something like:
"Well, why don't you want to be a man or woman?"
And instead of the answered you'd expect, they give these non gendered answers. I'll be expected to start a family, be competent, be emotionally strong, get a job, etc.

These people are usually non-binary and it becomes clear that what they want to "opt out" of isn't gender roles, but the social expectations placed on adults of both sexes. I kind of wish that the "being trans requires gender dysphoria" camp hadn't lost so hard. A lot of this particular strain has had very fucked up lives and this is just giving them justifications for what's understandable but maladjusted and unhealthy behavior.

I dunno, I feel like I'm a compassionate person (despite having an account here, lol) but the main thing that makes me hate this stuff is that it's distracting people from actual underlying issues that need to be addressed if they ever want to be happy or functional. They need to grow up if they're ever going to be fulfilled. That's just the human condition.

Speaking from personal experience, you're right on the money. Just like in eating disorders, opting into gender ideology is a maladaptive crutch for underlying issues, an obsession that distracts from the shit going on. It delays maturity because you're not appropriately tackling what's at hand. It's telling that a lot of people detransition in their 20s and 30s when their prefrontal cortexes start closing up.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

the "cotton ceiling" is probably the most prominent example of that, troons swear up and down that this never happened

Yep. Off the top of my head, the 41% and the phrase “Peak Trans” also come to us this way. The troons have this total lack of self-awareness that’s liable to make any aspect of their culture either hilarious or horrifying to outsiders.

 

[enaR]

I've seen a lot of speculation on the connection between autism, computers / video games, and being transgender. I feel like it can almost entirely be explained with the sensory parts, believe it or not. Almost everyone on the spectrum has some sort of sensory stuff going on, and I'm on the less severe end. I told off the eggposters in the groomercords, but here's what makes anything they say appealing to autistic men.

I am sensitive to light, temperature, and moisture. When I talk to people in real life, a large amount of my bandwidth is often taken up by the distraction of me squinting from bright light (photophobia), feeling uncomfortable due to the slightest sweat, feeling any sort of uneven temperature, etc. These mean that even if I am having positive interactions, the overall experience is often negative just from these physical feelings. (1) I am uncomfortable in my body.

I still have a need for socialization. Luckily, there's a dim, climate-controlled place where I can do it and avoid the usual discomfort: my room. Oh, and another bonus, grooming routines involve a lot of water and temperature that also makes me uncomfortable, and I can skip those if I'm going to be showing up virtually instead. (2) Socializing via some online avatar is much more comfortable.

Now, I do still groom myself because the benefits outweigh the discomfort. But, when I look in the mirror, I seem to be lacking some faculties for telling whether I look good. Most feedback I get on my experience is from older women in my life; family, coworkers, friends. I have picked up that they are often patronizing me and not really honest. So, the only thing I can really think of is asking, well, would I fuck the person I'm looking at in the mirror? I can't think of another way to tell, maybe because of my impaired theory of mind. It's not narcissism or autosexuality or anything like that; I cannot imagine what other people would like so I can only try to make a person appealing to myself. Luckily I bat for both teams so I'm able to manage an appropriate typical male appearance. But, what would I do if I only liked girls? (3) I could manage my appearance much better if I didn't have to shave and I knew how to make myself attractive to me.

Just from running through these things I instantly understand all the unkempt turbosperg transbians running around. This is extremely culturally bound; without the internet we'd develop different coping mechanisms. These are the kinds of issues a therapist would help with but that's conversion therapy now, isn't it?

 

[Sailor Kim Jong Moon]

Sweet lord. Get your autistic children early intervention.

Keep them away from the internet. Tell them to bathe on a schedule, not rewear dirty clothes (if you wore it yesterday, it’s dirty), and not have facial hair. (It’s too complex for the average autist. No, you’re not the exception.)

Also, brushing your hair STRAIGHT down after a shower should be in the DSM for autism. Stop doing that! Get plain clothes without video game and joke shit written on it - not mandatory but certainly helpful.

We need better services. Those cute autist kids grow up to be creepy autistic adults.

 

[armfleshween]

Do y'all think all the weirdos attracted to trannies will be seen just as weird as someone being attracted to people with lobotomies down the line? Were there people who "preferred" lobotomized people in that way?

 

[Hassou Tobi]

Are people really ok with this? I've seen a good number of handmaidens post as well, how can this be acceptable to them and not creepy? Troons are literally admitting on being skinwalking creeps and getting away with it like its nothing.
It makes me loose a lot of hope in society

My guess is if you raised these objections on Reddit they would write some gay excuse like “trans women just need patience and understanding when they first transition into finding their own womenhood. Cis girls often imitate their older sisters or friends, too. It’s completely normal.”

Because as we all know, nothing matters but the troon’s feelings.

In fact they acknowledge how creepy and deranged a lot of them act and cutely dismiss it as “second puberty.”

 

[Neko GF]

Tolerating homosexuality was a mistake.

Le Slippery Slope:

 

[Baraadmirer]

My guess is if you raised these objections on Reddit they would write some gay excuse like “trans women just need patience and understanding when they first transition into finding their own womenhood. Cis girls often imitate their older sisters or friends, too. It’s completely normal.”

Because as we all know, nothing matters but the troons feelings.

In fact they acknowledge how creepy and deranged a lot of them act and cutely dismiss it as “second puberty.”

And to such an excuse I'd retort that I'm pretty sure #notallcisgirls model themselves after sluts when they hit 19.

 

[FATTESTCUNT 2.0]

Do y'all think all the weirdos attracted to trannies will be seen just as weird as someone being attracted to people with lobotomies down the line? Were there people who "preferred" lobotomized people in that way?

As a straight man, I have never, ever seen the appeal of having sex with a tranny or "ladyboy", whether pre or post-op, and I think the men that do that shit are either bi or closeted gays.

Either that, or it's just extremely desperate losers hooking up with troons via dating apps, cos troons either have to date each other or lower their standards to as low as they can go. If all you can get is a blowjob from some "chick with a dick", some men will take that over nothing.

I think there's equivalences between lobotomies and "gender affirming surgery", but when it comes to attraction, in the context of your questions, I don't think they're related. You'd have to be a seriously sick fuck to only be attracted to lobotomised people, lol.

 

[Aunt Carol]

You'd have to be a seriously sick fuck to only be attracted to lobotomised people, lol.

Don't be mean to Jeffrey Dahmer; his posse of Tumblr girls will come after you.

 

[Space_Dandy]

Don't be mean to Jeffrey Dahmer; his posse of Tumblr girls will come after you.

What? You got me morbidly curious. He's got social media fans?

 

[Aunt Carol]

What? You got me morbidly curious. He's got social media fans?

Oh, boy. Our old friend Stephanie the Womb Wizard is married to Dahmer's ghost (she's a man now so it's fine) and is in and out of the True Crime fandom due to slapfights--I say "fandom" because it's less the podcast true crime people and more the "here is my fanart of Jeff" people.




...etc. It's the same as Columbine fangirls, and the recent miniseries did not help matters.

 

[walking like giant cranes]

Yo, long time listener, first time caller. I’m generally a lurker but I came across something so baffling that I thought it should be shared here. A little context: I started following this twitter artist some time ago and after a while I learned that he is an MTF troon. He’s on HRT, he’s in a “lesbian” relationship with another troon - you get the idea. Today, he posted a mini rant describing his ideas on gender and I found it strange and surprising and worth including here.





I have 3 thoughts on this

1) This seems to be an open admission that trangenderism is completely imaginary - even to these people. It’s just a costume that can be performed - like a method actor playing a character. It can be put on or taken off on a whim.
2) This strategy guarantees failure. If you force people to call it like they see it, they will see the man you are and call you as such.
3) This strategy will ultimately only inconvenience the people who are trying to “help”. The only people who even ask about pronouns are those progressive shitlib types. But this will make them uncomfortable too, since they will be pressured into deciding if they think you’re a boy or a girl.

So, it’s basically just a bunch of incoherent troon nonsense like usual. But I thought this was an interesting flavour of incoherent troon nonsense that I had never seen before. I’d love to hear what you guys think about this. Hopefully I formatted this okay - I’m not used to these types of forums and I’m egregiously retarded.

 

[Aunt Carol]

But I thought this was an interesting flavour of incoherent troon nonsense that I had never seen before

Welcome aboard; I'm sure this troon would be glad to hear he cracked your kiwi egg!

I think this is a less-hateful version of a troon sentiment we've seen before: "they're using my pronouns, but I wonder if they're doing it because I asked them to and they're remembering, not because they see me as a woman."

Except instead of blatantly needing to control others' thoughts, this guy thinks that if you read a pronoun pin and "she" him, that's a participation trophy pronoun use. He wants to know he's doing a good job performing "womanhood." He wants people to look at him and either see him as a woman, or see his "look" and figure out that he's trying to be a woman and not a gay guy.

So I guess it could be worse, if he's truly calm about being "misgendered" IRL.

 

[walking like giant cranes]

Except instead of blatantly needing to control others' thoughts, this guy thinks that if you read a pronoun pin and "she" him, that's a participation trophy pronoun use. He wants to know he's doing a good job performing "womanhood." He wants people to look at him and either see him as a woman, or see his "look" and figure out that he's trying to be a woman and not a gay guy.

Good points, I agree with your assessment.

One part that really captured my attention, was when he said “I am vague on purpose” and “you are supposed to guess and I will behave accordingly.” This signals to me that there is something like a pleasure derived from the very act of confusing people and making them uncomfortable. As we see in the second image, this is as much about the “fun of performing gender” as it is about personal identity. This is self-centered behaviour that could be indicative of an anti-social attitude toward other people. It’s like a game. It’s performative behaviour intended to provoke a desired reaction.

Of course, it’s possible I’m being much too harsh. Maybe it’s more about simply showing people what they want to see as to avoid any unnecessary confrontations or friction. I can relate to a desire to fit seamlessly into any given social situation. But either way, it seems like a very lonely and solipsistic strategy for interacting with the world.

 

[Aunt Carol]

there is something like a pleasure derived from the very act of confusing people and making them uncomfortable.

This used to be the goal of the "genderfuck" people, decade or so ago. A dude with a beard in a sundress was very much doing it to confuse the straights and get attention, and it worked. The goal was to "make people think about gender stereotypes," but it was probably mostly just attention and smugness because it proved they were a cool, with-it person.

The difference between then and now is that they'll act traumatized by getting the same attention, from laying the same trap. I'm convinced the motivation is the same, to prove they're the most up-to-date and hip person, it's just that the way to show that now is by being the most oppressed/depressed.