Off-Topic Things Troons Have Ruined

didelphigina said:
You just described Analog Horror and modern-day viewings of general horror, which are the epitome of safe edginess at its core. But that's more of a general community issue than a trans issue. Edginess is only acceptable when the masses agree upon the limits of how spooky or edgy something can be. The trans and general LGBT community are no exceptions to this.
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Youre right but a lot of the convo is about "problematic" content and gay shit gets a pass
 
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Calling out trannypedos.

I don't know if it was always like this, but talking about pedos that are trannies is fucking aids.

You have to play this weird ass game when talking about a trannypedo where you can't deadname, can't use the wrong pronouns, or can't call the trannypedo disgusting or wish death on them.

I have never seen a video talking about a trannyfagpedo that will talk about them like they would with a normal pedo.

And if you do either of those 3 things I listed, then the main focus will be on YOU and not the trannypedo. Just look what happened during the whole Kris Tyson thing.

Like who fucking cares if someone uses the wrong pronouns? Pedofags belong in bodybags, simple as that.
 
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Totally not a red flag said:
Calling out trannypedos.

I don't know if it was always like this, but talking about pedos that are trannies is fucking aids.

You have to play this weird ass game when talking about a trannypedo where you can't deadname, can't use the wrong pronouns, or can't call the trannypedo disgusting or wish death on them.

I have never seen a video talking about a trannyfagpedo that will talk about them like they would with a normal pedo.

And if you do either of those 3 things I listed, then the main focus will be on YOU and not the trannypedo. Just look what happened during the whole Kris Tyson thing.

Like who fucking cares if someone uses the wrong pronouns? Pedofags belong in bodybags, simple as that.
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not deviate from the main topic but im gonna say, i don't like when people go out of their way to use the desired pronouns of a trans identified person. After all is a decision they take, but it is an effort from this people nonetheless.

So when TRAs ask for people to respect the pronouns of people who have been confirmed to be pedophiles or abusers is so sickening it feels insulting to the people who do it out of kindness and pity because they are doing an effort to respect a criminal that doesn't deserve it.

I hate when these people say "oh so you support is conditional, you only respect trans people if they are not criminals" because the conditions are so bare minimum that it should be common sense.

I don't know about you, trans activists, but not abusing children and not raping women are a lot easier than remembering that i have to call you a woman every time i talk about you even when my brain tells me that you clearly are a man
 
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Idiot Sandwich the 3rd said:
not deviate from the main topic but im gonna say, i don't like when people go out of their way to use the desired pronouns of a trans identified person. After all is a decision they take, but it is an effort from this people nonetheless.

So when TRAs ask for people to respect the pronouns of people who have been confirmed to be pedophiles or abusers is so sickening it feels insulting to the people who do it out of kindness and pity because they are doing an effort to respect a criminal that doesn't deserve it.

I hate when these people say "oh so you support is conditional, you only respect trans people if they are not criminals" because the conditions are so bare minimum that it should be common sense.

I don't know about you, trans activists, but not abusing children and not raping women are a lot easier than remembering that i have to call you a woman every time i talk about you even when my brain tells me that you clearly are a man
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I 100% agree with you.


I have no support for people who are vile criminals or extreme sex pests, and those who commit acts of abuse toward women and children don't deserve to be called human, so the fact they actually demand respect to those is just something else.


They care more about their feelings being hurt than the safety of women. It's like the saying goes that men are scared that women will laugh at them, and women are scared that men will murder them.

In this case, the Troons (who are just male sex pests) are scared that they will be told they will not be a real woman or be laughed at because they are very ugly and took no care to make themselves look good at all. While women are scared that they will be assaulted for calling out the man for who he is or doing the simple act of misgendering (which most of the time is not even on purpose, but troons don't understand that though).


Troons are so scared of being called what they are that they try to be as violent and rapey as they can so they can scare off the "TERFS," whom are just normal people at this point.
 
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Watched a video gamer youtuber and he randomly called himself a girl, then his avatar switched from a blue fox dude in a brown shirt to a female blue fox with tits and I had a laugh because he didnt change his voice at all. Proof that any ground with autism is ripe for trooning. Renni ultrafox was the name.
 
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Video games and alternative music scenes were the first things that came to mind but they've been mentioned a lot in this thread already.

My big thing with this is media literacy. For people who screech about it constantly (especially on xitter) they're REALLY bad about exhibiting it. I was privy to an academic discussion about Silence of the Lambs and the original Psycho movie a few months ago, and it was insane how many people had to make their perspectives on the movie about their relationships with gender and their personal traumas instead of actually talking about the movies. And whenever those things were mentioned it was how they were offended with the "depiction" of trans people in both of these movies - both movies explicitly say that the villains are NOT trannies. For a group who wants more trans rep, especially "evil" and villainous trans rep, they sure do get really fucking upset if there's even a hint that a tranny character is a bad person - at least when it's out of their control, look what happened to the Postal series.
 
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Hooked on phobics said:
Dragon age series
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Video games are the lowest hanging fruit of this discussion (because male autism and video games just go together), but the new Dragon Age game is an amazing example of how trannies are unable to make anything that isn't a near-perfect reflection of themselves and their lived experience. They gutted anything interesting about the setting (which was explicitly described as a dark fantasy) and filled in the cracks with long winded speeches about being trans and nonbinary. Let's not even fucking talk about how badly the Qunari have been munted.

They like to label themselves creatives, but I think they're the opposite of that. They're more like a creative version of The Thing, where they invade IPs and assimilate them, even if it looks the same on the surface. They take actual diversity and consume it, to the point where any IP they touch effectively becomes the same game/story/movie/whatever with a thin coat of paint.

I could go on and on and on about why what they make is shit, but the gist of it is they're propagandists, not creatives.
 
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Adash said:
Newest POSTAL game I played was Paradise Lost, what happened?
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It's become infested with identity politics and fandom infighting in the past couple of years. Running With Scissors has bent a knee to it in order to stay relevant. Postal 4 was a colossal piece of shit, it was already dated by the time it entered early access and full of fan service as well as there being a tweet from RWS "confirming" the Postal Dude's sexuality.
 
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Idiot Sandwich the 3rd said:
not deviate from the main topic but im gonna say, i don't like when people go out of their way to use the desired pronouns of a trans identified person. After all is a decision they take, but it is an effort from this people nonetheless.

So when TRAs ask for people to respect the pronouns of people who have been confirmed to be pedophiles or abusers is so sickening it feels insulting to the people who do it out of kindness and pity because they are doing an effort to respect a criminal that doesn't deserve it.

I hate when these people say "oh so you support is conditional, you only respect trans people if they are not criminals" because the conditions are so bare minimum that it should be common sense.

I don't know about you, trans activists, but not abusing children and not raping women are a lot easier than remembering that i have to call you a woman every time i talk about you even when my brain tells me that you clearly are a man
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And of course when talking a out trannypedos nobody makes the connection of this huge contingent sphere filled with tranny aexual deviants. Nobody is asking why trannies, 1% of the population take up 70% of these degenerates being exposed.
 
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Oddjob OTP said:
Re: Troons with Cyberpunk, it's true enough but let's not lose the forest for the trees; actual women only give a shit about any Science Fiction if they are severely autistic. In fact I'd say cyberpunk at least has a number of real women paying lip service to it for cosplay reasons so they can dress up in Motoko-Plugsuit-D.V.A. spandex which is more then I can say about Dune or The Foundations series or something.
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⋖ cørdion ⋗ said:
In the least incel-rage way possible: Women don't game, nerd or obsess like dudes do. And troons are trifold the example of this. Even in the world of linkedin loonies, the "real women" at the top of "real compsci" are just women in jeans who quit doing grunt work years ago. They simply do not have the same brain wrinkles as those that demand you spend 30 years putting Doom on a toothbrush.
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This turns into the 'Tranny music discussion thread', where there are definitely thoughtful bits about troons interests but the whole argument turned into 'women are stupid and only cares about being pretty and the only ones to have any deeper interests are socially maladjusted freaks' (and that implies dudes with nerdy hobbies can still be normal unless they troon out.)

Hardcore gaming or anything too obsessive is not an attractive hobby for a more well adjusted, even if technically skilled, male programmers either. In Warez/Crack scene thread, in regards to EMPRESS, someone said that programmers of the calibre to crack Denuvo are plenty, but most of them would be doing corporate jobs, so they guessed that EMPRESS would be someone with certain personality flaws that makes serious employment not possible - Not sure how true is that, but I like that line of thinking. (and I don't think EMPRESS is a woman)

I do take issues with the assumption that women who takes interests in Science Fiction have something inherently wrong with them. Dune and The Foundations you brought up are classics 'normie' works of the genre where you don't have to be uber nerd to know of - you can say the same for Left Hand of Darkness, which was written by a woman. There are plenty of actual women sci-fi writers. While there are less than men, that has to do more about the scene being unappealing to women than 'women can't into logic'. There's a reason by Andre Norton and C. J. Cherryh had to write under pen name. But to make a point, you can also look at actual third world countries where interests in sci-fi barely exists as a cultural forces, if you talk about sci-fi ideas (or even some of the real science) there you'd be looked at like you have two head but people actually believe in ghosts and magic.

Sometimes it's just their environment, their influences, or interests, It's just that I think when someone take the interests too far that it started to eat up their other aspects in life and they start to think they can live out their fantasy and lose insight of their reality, which cybertroons or terminally online programmer troons usually are, that's a problem...

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As I think about it, there is two kinds of cyberpunk stories. The one troons and coomers in particular like, paint it in more positive and coomerish colours, it's too focused on the sexy aspect of that.
Then there are more dystopic, materialistic ones - like the Russian books I was talking about, which are about guys whose job is to track and save people, who got stuck in the virtual reality and now sit in their own piss and shit and are about to die of thirst in their empty trashed flats, while their virtual self is carelessly frolicking somewhere in VR. Guess those aren't the troon favourites.
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Oddjob OTP said:
But cybertroons is a pretty funny junction of retards and pop literature. If you go back to the beginnings of the Cyberpunk it was very clear that the authors considered the human body becoming a commodity with interchangeable parts to be bleak and ill-advised. They were not subtle. Look at Molly, a reoccurring supporting character in William Gibson's books (Neuromancer, and the rest of the Sprawl trilogy). She is a razorgirl, a sort of genre of cyborg with dialed up reflexes and senses and and razor claws implanted in her fingers. In order to afford this she literally had to sell herself as a specialized prostitute that would sleep while her body was controlled by a Chat personality for the deed. When she finally got herself out of surgery-debt her most obvious enhancement is the mirrored discs she has for eyes. When someone asks her how she cries, she explained that they rerouted her tear ducts to her mouth so when she cries she spits. This is absolutely not subtle; this modification required some loss of her innate humanity. And you find that sort of stuff everywhere in the early parts of the genre, these elective and empowering surgeries were insidious and ceding part of your autonomy to live in opposition to your true nature and were to be viewed with suspicion. But troons actually hate themselves so living in opposition to their nature is kind of the point so it's all upside fantasy to them.
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I agree with this, Cyberpunk as a genre is inherently sad. It's about alienation, you're shown 'cool' tech and virtual reality and shit to ask you if it's really worth it, to live like that. The genre itself isn't exactly moralising, so all the coomers and troons can imagine all the transhumanist fantasy - while they're forgetting that in the same genre people are either dying to pointless crimes or rotting away in their pods.

It's also becoming reality but in a 'boring dystopia' way, so Cyberpunk is less of an escapism now, and troons are probably one good example of that. The problems with troons making 'girlypop' cyberpunk is that it's uninspired, nostalgia bait shit, and if they were real women they wouldn't be saying that the game is girly 20 times. It's the focus on the shallow stereotype of the opposite sex that people can sniff out that it's a fake. The same way pooners like to remind themselves they are king dude bros. The whole Y2K/Neocities aesthetics are also fake, it's a poor imitation of how websites and fashion looked like back in late 90s-early 2000s but far from the spirit of the real thing, the same thing can be said for vaporwave - nostalgia for the sake of nostalgia, full of irony but without vitality.
 
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Kyangyenki said:
Minecraft
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It's very haunting to me because I have little cousins who play Minecraft, which is nice because we can talk about it together at family gatherings. They just want to build a cool house, knowing they can stumble on weird shit like this makes my heart sink.
 
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