US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Gehenna]

Are we so sure? going forward, sure, certainly, but looking back, this does recontextualize Biden insisting to wear that MAGA cap back a few months ago.

I have heard literally nothing about them working together on even a passing basis before this week. It would be pure speculation at best.

 

[Red Saltire]

I’m still astonished at the betting markets considering how close all the polling is and the razor thin margins in all the early voting.

Not only is this winnable for Harris, but it will be well within stealable. What do these markets see that I don’t see? Polling is never a great indicator in margins this thin so what is driving the prices here?

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I can easily see Rogan saying "fuck it, I'm sold, vote for Trump/Vance Tuesday."

He practically already has. He’s on good terms with all the people that Trump is building his admin out of, he’s goid friends with people that have very openly become ok with Trump alligned people and he had Trump in. And the first thing said on the show was ‘they are all lying about you’

It’s like all the people not endorsing a candidate. Everyone knows what is happening without it being needed to be said.

 

[Gehenna]

Well he is polish after all

So am I, my father and mother were polish jews who fled the nazis.

 

[mandatorylurk]

His polling must be fantastic

 

[ENDTOPII]

What if I told you word is that he had a week to plan this? That people from Biden's office, likely by Jill's command, set up the garbage comment -on purpose- out of -sheer fucking spite- for Harris?

I... I wouldn't even throw this idea out from the window. But still, 24 hours for a truck isn't that remarkable. But still tho, Biden already wore the MAGA hat and Kamala is getting booed at her own rally, wouldn't be too surprising if someone threw "a word" for some shit and giggles (I mean, it's kinda over PR wise for Kamala).

any moments of clarity and probably anything left of his instincts are dedicated to stabbing this bitch as many times as he can.

The MAGA hat was one of those moments, I refuse to believe that you just "took a strangers MAGA hat and look towards a camera". Come on...

His polling must be fantastic

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> You might look thinner

See, a woman would never meme like this, yet even have the manners to make themselves relatable on a stage like this.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Yeah. 2020 was cheated sure. But compare 2020 to 2024 and 2020 campaigning was awful by comparison. It was real bad. Trump was not like this.

I believe that Trump lost in 2020. He fucked up covid (all he needed to say was, "If you truly love America, you will wear a mask/get a vaccine so we can stick it to the Chinese" (or some version of it). I didn't vote for him in 2016 because I didn't particularly appreciate how he had ZERO political experience (but honestly, I hated the other option more than him). But I really think that Harris dropped the ball with Israel, Immigration and the increased cost of living.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I’m still astonished at the betting markets considering how close all the polling is and the razor thin margins in all the early voting.

Not only is this winnable for Harris, but it will be well within stealable. What do these markets see that I don’t see? Polling is never a great indicator at these levels so what is driving the prices here?

They see that no one likes Harris or will buy that she wins fairly and that so many people are openly supporting Trump. They see that the winds have changed.

There is an optimism here that there was not before.

 

[Not A Bunny]

Joe Biden’s life would be tragic if he wasn’t such a piece of shit. He was betrayed by the party he was loyal to for his whole life, and to add to it his brain is so dementia-addled that there’s practically a clip each day of him doing dementia brain shit. If only I felt bad for him.

It would almost be sweet that he loves Jill and pathetic about where he was, if we didn't have clips of him being a belligerent old asshole.

I can understand people voting against Trump, I have zero idea why anyone would want to vote for Kamala, though.

Because they're programmed to hate Trump so completely that a feckless, shrill moron like Harris is somehow an improvement.

She has no positions, no policy, no coherent thoughts besides talking points that are non sequiturs at her best moments, she laughs at inappropriate times, isn't particularly warm or friendly, has an annoying speaking voice, no foreign policy, has messed up her one big job (preventing a large-scale invasion of the United States, which by the way, is never addressed that way in the media), and has no particular vision other than how much not-Biden or not-Trump she needs to be to look good in front of any particular audience at any given time.

But all of that? Better than Trump.

 

[Sithis]

I have heard literally nothing about them working together on even a passing basis before this week. It would be pure speculation at best.

Loose sourcing I know but FreedomToons made a vid a couple weeks ago about "Biden betrays Kamala" with the gag being based on Biden tying Kamala to his record in retribution for Obama backing her over him. They also ran a gag about the MAGA hat. Even if there aren't official sources I wonder if the real beef began when Obama seemingly supported Kamala's coup, Biden himself probably still feels like Obama's friend but Jill may have started feeling unfavorable to it all after that.

So am I, my father and mother were polish jews who fled the nazis.

Awkward lol

 

[holyhandgrenade]

Meanwhile in the Harris Campaign:

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He geniunely doesn't give a fuck anymore.

https://x.com/corinne_perkins/status/1851763775486972214

baby the other other white meat. Joey is a Catholic after all

(VOLUME WARNING) This is your future madam president folks :

what retard let a person wearing a shirt where all you can read is FEMALE FELON in big bold letters stand directly behind her at a rally less than a week before the election.

 

[quaawaa]

I believe that Trump lost in 2020. He fucked up covid (all he needed to say was, "If you truly love America, you will wear a mask/get a vaccine so we can stick it to the Chinese" (or some version of it). I didn't vote for him in 2016 because I didn't particularly appreciate how he had ZERO political experience (but honestly, I hated the other option more than him). But I really think that Harris dropped the ball with Israel, Immigration and the increased cost of living.

What are you talking about? Trump promoted masks and vaccines. His mistakes during covid were believing idiots like Fauci and Birx who lied about its danger and allowing the Democrat governors to tank the economy by locking everyone in their homes.

 

[Puff]

Ahh, the kiwifarms. (Yes, I ignored mandatorylurk just for the screenshot)

 

[Red Saltire]

His polling must be fantastic

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no matter what man I’m gonna miss him on the road

 

[Harvey Danger]

I don't know who Trump's campaign hired or started listening to, but I am thoroughly enjoying the Stunt Arc. I wish it started a few weeks earlier. Fucking brilliant.

 

[Burnt Effigy]

What do these markets see that I don’t see?

Do note that polymarket is not betting on the odds of the average American to vote R or D, it's betting on success, the numbers you see are what people with the money think.

Betting markets like polymarket are influenced a lot by international betters, they also depend a lot on social media activity, videos of rallies, and there's also the crowd effect (people buy trump, raising trump, making people think trump is more likely to win, therefore more likely to bet on trump).

Most people who are slamming bands in betting aren't retards who bet just because, most of them are spending time watching speeches, reading polls, thinking about how the average person thinks of policies, etc.

Kamala has nothing, whereas Trump is making up to 3 appearances a day with 30m to hour long speeches (meaning he has great presence), and is severely overperforming in the polls, even if you go back weeks.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Biden was told by TPTB that he couldn't beat Trump in 2020. Then he did. In 2024, he was once again told he couldn't beat Trump, but the party took his ball from him. I would be pretty resentful if I were him and I would not be surprised if Biden ends up being friendly towards Trump in the event of a Trump victory next week. A neat little stab in the back that Biden didn't even have to work hard for.

I wonder how many Democrats are pulling their eyelashes out, wondering if leaving Biden in after the first debate was the better move in retrospect?

 

[WhiskeyJack]

Some are sharing this chart. I don't know if it's true or not but I will say they are good people
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I hope that guy bought a lottery ticket.

 

[Gehenna]

Awkward lol

Eh, Poso is almost a stereotype of everything wrong with poles. Though I think it has less to do with being Polish and more to do with being as ingratiated with the swamp as the very people he tries to deride.
Alternatively: you could claim the Jew part overrides the Polish part for work ethic.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I believe that Trump lost in 2020.

He did, not fairly, but he did. And stuff like Covid and other stuff did not help. It made people open to ignoring him being robbed.

He is handling this run much differently. It also helps that everyone around him actually likes and wants him to win. He did not have that in 2020.

He fucked up covid (all he needed to say was, "If you truly love America, you will wear a mask/get a vaccine so we can stick it to the Chinese" (or some version of it).

He repeatedly did. It’s why some fsns turned on him. His stance was always ‘you should do it but we can’t force it’