A summary of the "Trans" problem - in which we contemplate the cosmic troon horror

[Billy Bob Dick]

Nobody cares what adults do with their bodies. The sole issue with the contemporary "trans" problem is how it's being imposed on kids.

Transitioning children medically (sterilizing them via orchiectomy/vaginoplasty-hysterectomy/phalloplasty, and interrupting their normal sexual development via "puberty blockers," which are off-label prostate cancer and chemical castration drugs) is the product of adult sexual deviants imposing their perverse fantasies on children. Misery loves company.

"Trans" adults have a twofold fetish regarding transitioning children:

1. Their own inability to convince society (targeted sexual partners) that they are the opposite sex causes them to argue that if they had only transitioned younger they could "pass" better, so they push for transitioning kids as early as possible in order to vicariously live out their "passing" fantasies by victimizing children who don't know any better.
2. "Trans" people often are only able to find sexual partnerships with other "trans" people. The younger the "trans" community can groom children to medically transition, the more vulnerable they are to being preyed on sexually by adult "trans" people. The "trans" community online literally calls this process "cracking eggs."

This absolute farce of society-wide sexual predation and abuse is being perpetuated by the medical profession, who have abandoned the Hippocratic oath in favor of profiting off of permanently medicalized "trans" children.

Third-wave feminism perpetuates medical transitioning as feminists are fine with castrating/sterilizing children in the name of "equity" and "equality."

Medical transitioning is being further perpetuated by social media propaganda efforts as part of a larger psyop by Russia and the CCP to weaken our military capability and readiness by sterilizing and feminising military-age American males. That's literally what they're using TikTok to do.

Bottom line: Medically transitioning children is a human rights abuse of catastrophic proportions, on par with prefrontal lobotomies. It will likely be viewed as such - and written into the history books accordingly - in less than two decades from now.

Am I missing anything?

 

[Irrational Bounty Hunter]

Only thing that's missing really is the presence of pharmaceutical companies glad to create lifelong zombies hooked on not just hormone treatments and surgeries, but also probably cocktails of SSRIs per person. Trannies are almost universally mental in the way that can be opportunistically medicated

 

[AgendaPoster]

Nobody cares what adults do with their bodies. The sole issue with the contemporary "trans" problem is how it's being imposed on kids.

Full fail from the start.
Anyone that focuses on the child thing is deeply misguided.
Imagine thinking that a 40 yrs old dude that starts to dress as a woman and comes to work demanding to use the woman toilet is "meh who cares".
All such events are deeply destabilizing and open up discussions on "what should we do with this guy".
Adults need policing. To focus on kids is cowardice.

 

[Wuornos]

Leftists are pushing the trans cult because they're using it as a Trojan horse to decriminalise sex with minors. They're also pushing for womanhood to be redefined in order to facilitate paedophiles LARPing as female entering spaces where women safeguard children.

Also, the majority of children being sexualised and encouraged to troon out, thus resulting in their sterilisation, are White.

Look at who's supporting and funding the trans movement. It's predominantly Jews and Jewish orgs.

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

Full fail from the start.
Anyone that focuses on the child thing is deeply misguided.
Imagine thinking that a 40 yrs old dude that starts to dress as a woman and comes to work demanding to use the woman toilet is "meh who cares".
All such events are deeply destabilizing and open up discussions on "what should we do with this guy".
Adults need policing. To focus on kids is cowardice.

OK, so do we pass laws preventing adults from transitioning? I'm on board with that.

 

[Preacher ✝]

Nobody cares what adults do with their bodies.

God cares. Our bodies are a sacred gift from the Lord, to mutilate ones self is deeply sinful. Furthermore the core of trans theory, that one can be born the wrong sex, is an affront to God as it implies he can make mistakes which is impossible.

 

[Dr. Eldon Tyrell]

Nobody cares what adults do with their bodies. The sole issue with the contemporary "trans" problem is how it's being imposed on kids.

People failed to see that there are no minima and maxima with concept of wrong brain in wrong body and it's applicability in the first place. So they/we all fell for the arbitrary "but they don't do it to kids for reasons" which is why we are where we are. The is no based troonery of yesteryear.

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

God cares. Our bodies are a sacred gift from the Lord, to mutilate ones self is deeply sinful. Furthermore the core of trans theory, that one can be born the wrong sex, is an affront to God as it implies he can make mistakes which is impossible.

I'm perfectly fine with banning all "trans" anything medical procedures across the board.

 

[AgendaPoster]

OK, so do we pass laws preventing adults from transitioning? I'm on board with that.

Indeed. The best compromise path is gating it through the medical systems, so the state is not involved that much directly. That way, you can just put people on psychiatric meds and remove them from civilized society.

 

[Dr. Eldon Tyrell]

I'm perfectly fine with banning all "trans" anything medical procedures across the board.

That's the only thing that will stop this. It began with "correcting" intersex people which by definition, also were boys with too small a penis size at birth for a while, some of them got maimed at birth (or somehow prepped for later SRS by castration) because of the reimer experiment. Before reimer they did it only or at least mostly on kids with congenital defects like micropenis and the assorted actual "intersex" malformations and not those who had "accidents" like reimer himself. They thought it's easier to live a a woman if you are deformed. Same as thinking it's easier to become a woman if you suck at being a boy. It's possible but kinda hard to find records and sauces on that but I might get back to it. People here sometimes disagree with that take because they, again, fall for the "medical" condition shtick but there's nothing life threatening or wrong with people who exhibit these congenital deformities. They often cite cancer risks which of course were never really studied because there's not many of these people around in the first place. They were or still are surgically adapted to fit arbitrary, aesthetic ideals about how doctor's think genitals should look, they just expanded that onto the mental illness map and now give these procedures to even just people with the alleged cross gender brains, too. All these procedures have to be outlawed, safe for things like your dick becoming necrotic or cancerous and them taking it of because of that. You know, actual conditions, threatening your health.

 

[We Are The Witches]

OK, so do we pass laws preventing adults from transitioning? I'm on board with that.

That goes beyond what's fair, in my opinion.

Let adults transition however they want. However when conflict arises (such as the bathroom thing), it needs an analysis and course of action on its own, which is tangential to them altering their body in the way they want.

In that case, the policy may be that one restroom can only be used by people who were born with certain chromosomes (having or lacking the Y sexual chromosome), and if they're so bent on this, a medical report can be demanded to deterime by law where should one go. Or, bathrooms could be unisex altogether, like the ones at an airplane, which both sexes use.

If it's in regards to children, of course don't let anyone make these medical desisions for them, let the law forbid it, but not when they're adults making their own decisions. While we're at it, make circumcision a criminal offense, anyone mutilating their children should go to the oven.

 

[Smokingpoop]

We need to reopen mental asylums so that troons may no longer pollute common discourse or polite society. Along with chemically castrating them so they can't reproduce and perpetuate their mental illness. The solution is actually really simple.

 

[Dr. Eldon Tyrell]

Indeed. The best compromise path is gating it through the medical systems, so the state is not involved that much directly.

That IS the pathway which enabled this in the first place, if there was no voodoo doctor attesting a condishun, this would be outright maiming of people as per law but as soon as some quack frames what he does as condition, it's out of the law maker's hand to a large degree.

 

[Dr. Eldon Tyrell]

Let adults transition however they want.

Why? You still need a medical diagnosis before getting greenlit for surgery or endocrine intervention. You would have to re-frame it all as elective cosmetic treatment, then. Which would still make it aviable, even easier, to attain for let's say 16 or 18 year olds. Maybe safe for the money to pay for it. Considering someone as and adult at 21 is also still kinda weak when it comes to protecting young people whose brains haven't fully developed and set. The doctors would also lose their footing on practicing "life saving" medicine, if it was reframed like that. Which also closes off the insurance $$$ many are after.
If you go soft in this issue, you allow for the "concept" to linger which is exactly what it's spectre did before. You have to stamp out the idea of "transsexualism" (and good luck with that) or ban these procedured for everyone.

 

[Shart Attack]

I wouldn't call troons going after kids the sole issue. They cause multiple other issues.

I think consenting adults should be free to cut their dicks off if they want and call themselves whatever made-up bullshit they choose. If people are free to cut their dicks off and call themselves made-up flower names and pronouns, everyone else should be free to call them insane, use the pronouns corresponding to their biological sex, and otherwise refuse to participate in or enable their insanity.

However, it currently only goes one way, which is a massive problem. Lunatics can turn themselves into zipper-titted abominations and lie to our faces about what they are, and the rest of us are pressured by society, employers, and sometimes laws to go along with it. A successful propaganda campaign has conditioned large parts of society to attack and ostracize anyone who refuses to play along with the troon shit. Hate crime laws punish us for calling a man in a dress a man in a dress. Small but extremely vocal groups of insane freaks will dedicate their lives to ruining your livelihood if you "deadname" a hulking trog calling itself Flower-name Troonista, and they have society's and the government's tacit approval. I'm reminded of a case in British Columbia where a guy who was running for a local government job got dragged before their human rights tribunal for pointing out the objective, undeniable, verifiable fact that his troon opponent was born a man. See also their crusade against the Farms. They can do whatever they want, and the rest of us can't even acknowledge objective reality if it affects their precious fee-fees.

It's an incredibly one-sided, anti-liberal arrangement, a staggering injustice being paraded as a progressive justice. It's only going to get less fair until something breaks. Either we need to outlaw trans bullshit entirely, or everyone else needs their previous freedoms back, including the freedom to call a troon insane without being dragged before a hate crime inquisition. I don't like the former option, because I fucking hate the government, and I hate asking it to do anything at all. I would prefer the latter option, but I'm not optimistic the pendulum is ever going to swing back that far.

And that's not even getting into the stranglehold troons have on our culture despite being a statistically insignificant part of the population, or the bullshit women have to go through because of them, or any of the other bullshit problems they're causing.

 

[JohnnyG]

Nobody cares what adults do with their bodies. The sole issue with the contemporary "trans" problem is how it's being imposed on kids.

I used to buy into the libertarian hypothetical ("enjoy your fetish, just leave me out of it!"). But just like the "use whatever pronoun as long as it's not force on me" was never going to be an option, since half the fetish is forcing normal people to play along, I don't think there could ever be a "trans" movement that leaves children alone for a couple reasons.

The first is the pure political power. Modern Leftism is the "coalition of the fringes" or "spiteful mutants", and chemically sterilizing/surgically castrating a child before he can understand the lifelong consequences ensures a lifelong client. He will be miserable and resentful, ie a Leftist.

The second is that middle aged men in lingerie are completely repulsive and predatory to any normal person. All the drugs and makeup and filters in the world do not overcome the massive difference between the sexes, the uncanny valley effect, and how off-putting they are especially in real life. They have to groom pre-pubescent children as their sympathetic mascots ("teehee, Jasmine is just an innocent girl trying to do normal girlie things") before reality sets in.

They have to use children because no movement would garner sympathy with this:

 

[Chris_Stuckmann]

Imo there should be a five thousand dollar fine the first year you identify as trans, and it should double every year you continue to identify as something you're not.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

God cares. Our bodies are a sacred gift from the Lord, to mutilate ones self is deeply sinful. Furthermore the core of trans theory, that one can be born the wrong sex, is an affront to God as it implies he can make mistakes which is impossible.

I get what you're saying, but because we have things like cleft palletes and cancer in babies I wouldn't lead with this one; it's low hanging fruit.

That aside. I do think there is some sort of strange impulse to either asceticism or power underlying trannyism. Some people always aren't like other girls, they're special and want to be acknowledged as such.

There are very few routes to power for a white straight male in the modern left wing/intersectionalist circles. Even white ethnic minorities in these groups like Irish Travellers only get to use the DEI beatstick against other whites.

Being bisexual or gay is so very 90s and done.

Joining an exotic religion doesn't really work, because convets rarely wield enough influence to manage anything.

The only real way to join the priestly class of the modern left wing society for a white male is to Troon out.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

I have a major problem with mandatory pronouns. It's compelled speech, and basically a modern version of blasphemy laws.

 

[JamusActimus]

We will have a nuremberg style trial in the future for the horrors of child troonism.