Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

[Observotron]

Console Sales are more annoying to track - we don't have the immediate numbers SteamDB gives us - but considering how scuffed this Console Gen is I doubt it makes up the difference. The Modern Audience will likely do what it always does and fail to manifest, the game will be quietly announced as a flop about a month from now, but because it released in a quiet week it'll have the "Best Selling Game on Steam" crown for about 5 minutes for dipshits to crow about for ages.

Xbox has its top played games list that gets updated every few days.

Higher, yeah. I still think that one poster's prediction of 50k peak players is optimistic. I could get egg on my face though. I'm more interested in seeing the reviews, and perhaps any seethe that eventually gets posted here.

Well, considering I want this game to flop hard, 50k was actually a pessimistic estimate.

 

[Flour]

I predict a Starfield. The game will sell fairly well and the initial reaction from normies will be positive. Eventually reality will creep in and the general audience will realize that the game is irredeemable trash. Long time DA fans will seethe and weep. Devs will cope by pointing to sales. Steam reviews will land at mixed.

 

[Hooked on phobics]

If anyone wants, heel vs baby face is live playing this shit.

 

[Fcret]

I'm just going to interject here because I see a lot of misunderstandings about BG3's wokeness when compared to DA.

Baldur's Gate is set in the Forgotten Realms. FR was created by Ed Greenwood who is a degenerate Canadian hippie who, even back in the 70s, was filling FR with all manner of degeneracy (much of it would be taboo even by today's standards). TSR/WotC obviously do a bit of cleanup around the edges but the core conceit of Forgotten Realms is that it's Canadian progressive hippie fantasy complete with kitchen sink globohomo diversity. Ergo, BG3 is woke because it has to be, otherwise it's literally out-of-touch with the setting. Whether or not that's a good thing is obviously up to the consumer but there's nothing 'new' about what BG3 is doing with FR other than making the women slightly uglier. Even back in the 90s, the FR video games (including BG1) had this progressive shit out the wazoo.

DAtV, on the other hand, is not only woke but it's woke in direct contravention of the franchise's established tone and setting. That's why it feels so especially egregious compared to BG3.

 

[Deus Exica]

Casting my bets, 25K high with a mostly positive rating.

I predict a Starfield. The game will sell fairly well and the initial reaction from normies will be positive.

I've been saying it for a while, it will sell reasonably well. You will see plenty of shit posting and dancing and "Go woke go broke, huh!?" Shitposting with the sales figures being paraded around.

Then, six months from now, we will get the earnings call where some EA head says that the game failed to meet expectations.

Then we will get the 5 hour + YouTube essays that shit on it and for some reason no DLC or sequel will ever materialize.

 

[LazyLizard]

at 33k now, my money is on it peaking at 42k

 

[Evil Peter Griffin]

 

[Hooked on phobics]

Casting my bets, 25K high with a mostly positive rating.

CURRENTLY its mixed reviews, but theress coping on steam forums about "reeee, why negative reviews with half an hour" despite the same for positive reviews.

 

[Terror Sandwich]

Andromeda had a peak of 3,500

Andromeda didn't release on Steam. The game originally came out in 2017, but the steam "Deluxe Edition" version was only released in 2020.

 

[Kharash]

I'm just going to interject here because I see a lot of misunderstandings about BG3's wokeness when compared to DA.

Baldur's Gate is set in the Forgotten Realms. FR was created by Ed Greenwood who is a degenerate Canadian hippie who, even back in the 70s, was filling FR with all manner of degeneracy (much of it would be taboo even by today's standards). TSR/WotC obviously do a bit of cleanup around the edges but the core conceit of Forgotten Realms is that it's Canadian progressive hippie fantasy complete with kitchen sink globohomo diversity. Ergo, BG3 is woke because it has to be, otherwise it's literally out-of-touch with the setting. Whether or not that's a good thing is obviously up to the consumer but there's nothing 'new' about what BG3 is doing with FR other than making the women slightly uglier. Even back in the 90s, the FR video games (including BG1) had this progressive shit out the wazoo.

DAtV, on the other hand, is not only woke but it's woke in direct contravention of the franchise's established tone and setting. That's why it feels so especially egregious compared to BG3.

I happened to have recently finished BG1 and am currently playing BG2. 90+% of NPC's are white. And while it's true that there's a lot of what you'd call diverse characters like Dynaheir, they are all foreigners. That's a huge difference compared to modern globohomo slop like BG3. Not to mention gays are practically nonexistent.
So while yeah there's a certain amount of wokeness going on there to say it's anything like BG3 and that BG3 is being truthful to those games is absurd.

 

[Deus Exica]

BG3 is woke because it has to be, otherwise it's literally out-of-touch with the setting.

BG3's woke elements are fairly blatant but they're the kind of tolerable propaganda where you can largely ignore it unless brown people where they shouldn't be really gets under your skin. And it even feels somewhat old fashioned in a lot of regards. Characters are generally quite attractive, there's plenty of fantastical racism, dark elf misandry is present and largely depicted as an unpleasant thing, you can kill anyone you meet and you can be rude to everyone you encounter, the first major choice you encounter is whether or not to slaughter the innocent refugee analogue or save them.

This new breed of woke is something else entirely. We have reached the point where including even vaguely negative elements, perpetrated by the player or otherwise, is considered tantamount to endorsing these things in real life.

So, is BG3 woke? Yeah. Is it a good RPG despite being woke? Also yeah.

CURRENTLY its mixed reviews, but theress coping on steam forums about "reeee, why negative reviews with half an hour" despite the same for positive reviews.

I'm thinking there will be a cleaning up of negative reviews by Steam that will balance it back in Bioware's favor. Review bombing is only bad when it is Chuds doing it.

 

[FiveStarAce]

I hate culture war faggots of both sides, but i enjoy a good shitshow.
We'll see if it cracks 100k players, the Bioware name is still strong.

 

[Terror Sandwich]

I predict a Starfield.

I think it will have a similar trajectory as Starfield, but it will be lucky if it gets a quarter of the peak it had.

 

[Miquella]

If there was one it was scrapped when Gaider and Mary Kirby left.

David Gaider leaving was a good thing, he was all aboard the troon train on his blog back in the day and was more and more centring his writing around his politics, some of us naively hoped it would mean a move away from Inquisition's self-insert cringe (Dorian, the character was shit and poorly written and 90% of his story is about being gay) and the troon shit, but no, they doubled down even harder

 

[Hooked on phobics]

Starfield had the "bethesda new RPG prestige" and far less feral homosexuality.
Even if it was shit, at least most of it wasn't OFFENSIVELY homosexual. Not as much compared to this

 

[Fcret]

Thedas is trending on X/Twitter. The results are about what you'd expect:

 

[Ishtar]

The ending (not sure about the context) here has solas end up “bound to the veil” so you don’t ever kill the bald egg, but you can defeat him.

Maybe bound to the veil is something like Atlas? IDK Solas holds up the veil and prevents its collapse? IDK?

People have said this is a soft reboot, I seriously wonder if that’s just because the solas/elven god plot is now wrapped up.

(With no ME3 style setting changes).

https://www.si.com/videogames/guides/dragon-age-veilguard-all-returning-characters

Well…at least Valta shows up? Sten doesn’t, Zevran, Fenris, no Hawke ofc. The returning Cast is…pretty small.

 

[Kane lives in death]

Holy shit did steamdb just shut down the player counter for the game?

EDIT: anyways i was gonna post this when the playercount stabilized, but they literally shut it down, so here it goes:
When they shut it down it was at 40k hours after launch... they might rise to 60k?

owlcat got 45k with rogue trader, and they are a much smaller studio with a fraction of biowares budget
starfield, the king of slop games, got 330k
the problematic space marine 2 topped at 225k
baldurs gate 3 isnt a fair comparison i guess, but they got 875k

again, this game had the gaming media asisting them on full force, if all that they can get with biowares reputation is slightly above owlcat numbers, thats fucking sad. owlcat games barely have fucking voice acting because of how niche they are lol.

Im going full cope, but a bloated triple AAA studio that hasnt released shit in 7 years cant survive with these numbers. unless i wake up tomorrow to more than 100k concurrent players peak i think bioware is fucked


edit2: apparently the page works fine for some people, so its probably steamdb spazzing out instead of them shutting the playercount down, sorry for the autism

 

[Rick The Stick]

Could you worthless faggots stop shitting up the thread with your sodomite slap fight?
Holy hell, people can't even shit on a tranny game in peace, before some spergs come crawling out the woodwork to vomit their off topic garbage from their cock holsters.

Hard to shit up a thread that's basically just mourning an essentially dead IP and dumping on the current release.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

If anyone wants, heel vs baby face is live playing this shit.

He's currently making the most beautiful they/them Qunari in the history of gender.