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One thing about the Rogan-Vance interview that I haven't seen anyone mention yet is around an hour and 20 minutes in, Vance reveals that the same tech backdoors that glowies use to monitor regular citizens was used by Chinese hackers to get into Vance's and Trump's phones.

I wonder if this will disrupt glowie surveillance overall.
 
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HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS said:
It's always fuckinf glitches what the fuck

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Crazy! It just 'glitched' 29 times.
AspieNextDoor said:
What do you think would cause more seething - Donny winning by electoral college again ("Drumpf got cheated into office once again!") or by popular vote ("half our coutry are dang dirty fascists!")?
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Republican presidents basically never win the popular vote. The last one to win that was probably Reagan vs Walter Mondale and I wouldn't even be surprised if he somehow lost that despite sweeping the EC. The Democrats at this point just take for granted that the popular vote will always be theirs (which is why they often push for removing the EC because it's racist). They always win it through a combination of ballot stuffing and metropolitan areas being overwhelmingly Democrat. So if Trump takes the popular vote, even if he loses the electoral vote - but especially if he wins both - it will infuriate them on a whole new level. People get mad when you don't give them what they think they're entitled to.
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Clinton recently visited Michigan to stump for Harris, and while there he touched upon the war in gaza. Here is what Mehdir Hasan (the muslim beeper guy on CNN) has to say about it:
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I wonder how this will affect Michigan?
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Insane that Bill Clinton is telling the truth for some reason.

Anyway, my dooming continues. If they're catching massive cheating already like this, the scope of the cheat is likely unprecedented. I expect a big Kamala win.
 
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Allanon said:
Crazy! It just 'glitched' 29 times.

Republican presidents basically never win the popular vote. The last one to win that was probably Reagan vs Walter Mondale and I wouldn't even be surprised if he somehow lost that despite sweeping the EC. The Democrats at this point just take for granted that the popular vote will always be theirs (which is why they often push for removing the EC because it's racist). They always win it through a combination of ballot stuffing and metropolitan areas being overwhelmingly Democrat. So if Trump takes the popular vote, even if he loses the electoral vote - but especially if he wins both - it will infuriate them on a whole new level. People get mad when you don't give them what they think they're entitled to.

Insane that Bill Clinton is telling the truth for some reason.

Anyway, my dooming continues. If they're catching massive cheating already like this, the scope of the cheat is likely unprecedented. I expect a big Kamala win.
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I don’t sorry. Could it happen sure but I think Elon is shinning a light on these vampires that they can’t be pulling any more bullshit.
 
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In the topic of chances, I’ve never in my adult life seen a Republican ahead in the polls, nor have an early voting advantage. I don’t know what to make of it. It’s uncharted territory.

Edit: What I can say is what the Kamalaaaa supporters are saying sounds and feels a lot like the cope I heard in 2008, 2012, and a little in 2020. “She’s not THAT behind in the polls, the real voters will turn out on Election Day just for her, etc etc.” The frustration with the candidate/surrogates, finger pointing, constantly changing angles of attack, and perpetually being on the defense comes off like they’re extremely worried and subconsciously know they’re losing. I felt the way they felt in 08/2012 and look how that turned out.
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Again, Trump is far ahead in most of the polls, far better than in 2016

I'm fairly confident in Trump winning barring some shenanigans
 
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0713 said:
I know. I'm quoting directly what was written. The person who said that is a lunatic.
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Hasan isn't saying that Trump is pro-Muslim (this is indicated by the fact that "Pro-Muslim" is immediately followed by a "(!)"). He's saying that the Democrats response to Muslim voter's anger over the Gaza war is so bad that Trump comes across as Pro-Muslim in comparison to them.
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Republican presidents basically never win the popular vote. The last one to win that was probably Reagan vs Walter Mondale and I wouldn't even be surprised if he somehow lost that despite sweeping the EC.
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Dubya won the popular vote in 2004.
 
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Remember when NYC claimed it was getting fucked, Trump sent a navy hospital ship and they refused to use it?
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In my part of Kiwi Land, I believe the Feds rented out space in two large halls and converted the space into overflow treatment rooms for COVID patients. One place was barely used at 1/4 to 1/3 capacity at its peak and the other wasn't used at all for about 4-6 months before the government opted to stop paying rent and pull out of both locations. Even though the overflow capacity was grossly underutilized and not necessary, the media did everything to overhype the daily case and death numbers during this time period.

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I wonder how this will affect Michigan?
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Very negligible at best, I suspect. The Vote Blue No Matter Who folks (i.e. the unions and minorities) will still vote for Kamala. Red folks will still vote for Trump. And those on the fence will likely remain unpersuaded by either major candidate.
 
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The rig is too big this year. Surprise ballots will flood Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Ohio while the voting machines in secure red states will chip away at the popular vote either by someone changing the count or the code doing it automatically. Pointing it out and doing nothing won’t win Republicans the race unless if their goal is to cry for 4 more years.

If you want to stop the steal then do something about it.
 
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John Badman said:
The rig is too big this year. Surprise ballots will flood Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Michigan while the voting machines in secure red states will chip away at the popular vote either by someone changing the count or the code doing it automatically. Pointing it out and doing nothing won’t win Republicans the race unless if their goal is to cry for 4 more years.

If you want to stop the steal then do something about it.
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How did you become so prematurely pessimistic?
 
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GoGoNoJo said:
Hasan isn't saying that Trump is pro-Muslim (this is indicated by the fact that "Pro-Muslim" is immediately followed by a "(!)"). He's saying that the Democrats response to Muslim voter's anger over the Gaza war is so bad that Trump comes across as Pro-Muslim in comparison to them.
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You're free to try to guess his hidden intentions all you want, I'm going with the most obvious interpretation of what he actually wrote.
Even if what you said were to be true, there's a million better ways to say than the way he did. He's a moron no matter how you slice it.
 
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Very negligible at best, I suspect. The Vote Blue No Matter Who folks (i.e. the unions and minorities) will still vote for Kamala. Red folks will still vote for Trump. And those on the fence will likely remain unpersuaded by either major candidate.
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The idea that Muslims are just going to "Vote Blue No Matter Who" is a bit odd given that Trump is actually leading Harris among Muslim voters, and there is a campaign by Muslim voters that explicitly wants to punish Harris (and the Democrats more generally) over the Gaza war.
 
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Your Girlfriend's Dad said:
Unpopular opinion: I think I like JD more than Trump at this point. Still love The Donald but I'm kinda tired of the constant "We had the best; We did the best" in every interview. JD has done a much better job meeting propaganda head on and breaking it down. Hope he follows through.
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got a bit tired of that till it hit me he rarely say "I" or "me".
it's essentially a compliment, or team-building exercise to look at it this way. anyone who voted for him back then, or worked for him etc is included in that. just like "best country in the world" basically includes every american, even the ones spitting on your flag.

another thing I noticed afterwards is no one really talks that way anymore (I don't mean how trumps talks, but "we are best at X" or something). it all feels like some lame participation trophy shit being scared someone gets sad he's not included or offended about "you think you're better than me?!". especially from a politician who is literally working for your country you'd expect that, but no, you have to hear it from a showman/business mogul.
 
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Here I was thinking they might not fuck around because of the level of cheating that would be required but they went the other way: Being so fucking obvious and blatant that nothing can be done to confront the absolute insane level of fuckery.

It's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for her.
 
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