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Among other reasons, this is why Lichtman’s “13 keys” prediction this year is absolute garbage. He’s giving Kamala both the short term AND long term strong economy numbers in the face of inflation and maybe the worst job creation in recent years (the COVID bounce back does not count).

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Gehenna said:
The Amish don't -really- reject technology like people think. Rather their lifestyle and belief is more about rejecting the easy solutions that technology provides and doing all they realistically can with physical, by-hand means. A strong belief that hardwork and faithful living are more important than easy solutions and what they view as hedonism.
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Moreover different Amish communities have different technological restrictions. Some might have a single phone in their village, for example, as long as it's in a place where everyone can see it being used.
 
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DSaC said:
Rural = Conservative and Urban = Liberal is a myth and a perfect example of correlation not equaling causation.
The real truth is, sadly, a lot simpler. It's all racial. A rural, nonwhite area will vote farther left than an urban area with a significant (50-ish% or more) white majority. Alaska is a prime example of this, with the entire state being an inverse of how the rest of the country looks politically. It's a bunch of rural, nonwhite democrats that get completely outvoted and dominated politically by Anchorage.
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Portland, Oregon has traditionally been one of the whiter large cities, and yet Oregon has been blue since 1988. Same thing with some of the New England states.
 
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Save the Loli said:
No, this actually is the CIA's playbook for color revolutions. Look what they're doing in Georgia (the country) right now. Stopping an organic version of one is why corporations and the government applied all that censorship and severe repression after the 2020 steal. However, it simply won't happen because if they really wanted to steal, they already know how.
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I should clarify because I now understand that what I wrote might have come across differently:

I did not mean that the Color Revolution Playbook is Q-anon garbage, as in the information itself is bogus. What I meant was that, the way in which it is written sounds like lefty schizo Q-anon type stuff. It is long-winded and the person who wrote it has no idea how revolutions actually succeed. Color revolutions only succeed when a huge majority of a country's population is fed up with the government and the people are socially connected enough that violence is not desired. In the event of a Trump victory, leftist attempts at a "color revolution" are rose-tinted at best and, at worst, they are being set up for more violent elements to take them over (which is what happens in most earnest civil conflicts).
Get the rope Macaulay! said:
Chris is from boston, enough said there.
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Chris Evans is not from Boston. He is from Sudbury. It is not even in the same county and it is outside the I-95 ring, meaning it's basically the hinterlands of Massachusetts. There are more farms and national forests in Sudbury than anything else and Massachusetts has this really weird quality where the rural parts of the state are often more liberal because that's where all the rich people live. The Berkshires (Western Massachusetts) is very liberal and crunchy to the point that they have their own regional currency.
Mourning_Cloak said:
That's because doing so would've gotten them expelled from the cult.
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It really is sad how the LGBT community functions like a cult. I know good people who cannot speak their mind because it would result in immediate, forceful shunning.
 
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Gehenna said:
The Amish don't -really- reject technology like people think. Rather their lifestyle and belief is more about rejecting the easy solutions that technology provides and doing all they realistically can with physical, by-hand means. A strong belief that hardwork and faithful living are more important than easy solutions and what they view as hedonism.
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Sounds based ngl
 
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Lian Xing said:
I can't imagine having all that success from all those shitty novels and choosing to be a complete faggot.
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Bush broke him and he suffers from TDS. Steven King's writing has also suffered since early 2010s and it wouldn't surprise me if he used ghost writers at this point.
 
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Gehenna said:
The Amish don't -really- reject technology like people think. Rather their lifestyle and belief is more about rejecting the easy solutions that technology provides and doing all they realistically can with physical, by-hand means. A strong belief that hardwork and faithful living are more important than easy solutions and what they view as hedonism.
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Pure Snort said:
I can vouch for this, because my company has sold tech products that require offline only functionality to the Amish. Being vague as possible for obvious reasons.
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Gehenna said:
Things like computers are often used for business' and selling Amish made goods. The computer is usually kept in a closed off part of the house, inaccessible by anyone but the business owner, but with a big fucking window looking right in to where the screen is so anyone passing by can confirm the owner is only doing business.
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Puff said:
Different sects and even communities also accept different levels of technology. I've seen Mennonites (another anabaptist sect) that allow cell phones, but only for business, and they're flip phones.
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Pure Snort said:
Cool, learning new facts. Despite knowing we have the Amish as a customer I've not been the one directly interacting so there's lots of neat details I don't know.
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Gehenna said:
One of the families in my little homesteading project are a former Amish family with some fascinating tales. They loved the lifestyle, which is why they signed onto my dumbfuck idea, but didn't like a lot of the more... extreme elements of Amish culture. The amish really are a lesson in dualities.
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Sounds like what I’ve heard: Amish will only use technology if it’s for the good of the community. I guess Weird Al lied to people.
 
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Red Saltire said:
whitepill bros, whitepill me on MI, WI, and PA. Try as I might I have no faith any of them will be blue wed morning.
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Well I got good news and bad news. The good news is WI is still close, and even better news is Trump has a somewhat comfortable lead in PA, and hopefully the Amish actually stay true to their word and vote en masse for Trump. That could easily win him the state.

If he wins PA all he will need is NC and GA to win even if every other contested state turns blue. He has pretty good leads in NC and GA, and if Republicans keep up the trend of "coming out on election day" Trump hopefully is just getting started in those states.

The bad news is he will most likely not win MI, and WI is still close enough they could easily flip it blue through fraud. The really big worry is that he isn't that far ahead in PA so fraud can tip the balance. Hopefully thats where the Amish come in.
 
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Kulee Baba said:
If Lord willing Trump wins I do not expect them to throw Kamala under the bus, if anyone is going under the bus it’s Biden who will never make another political speech after January 2025.. Maybe his family will do a quiet apolitical image rehabilitation like Jimmy Carter did with Habitats for Humanity but the narrative will be Biden waited too long to drop out and left expecting Harris to succeed at the 11th hour. Also the Garbage comment and the dozen other things Joe did to seemingly derail Harris’s momentum will be blamed.

What I’m left wondering is what’s the future of the DNC because the party is going to be at a crossroads with moderate Bill Clinton side fighting for control with the radical left. Not like I’m soothsayer but I think the Dems will be forced to have an image reinvention like the GOP did. I just don’t see how a Democratic Party that doesn’t really stand for anything maintains any relevancy.
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Crack for Humanity, Hunter hands out free crack to bums. Maybe they weren't so bad after all? :heart-full:
 
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