Victor Markhoff / Ana Victoria Markhoff / vvictorman_uel - Powerchair faker pooner, has every illness, allergic to Krebs cycle, bed mayo enjoyer, kicked out of house and mental hospital, constant ebeggar, applesauce heiress paid to yeet her teets

I will never cease to be amazed by how a euro girl born into wealth has chosen to claim every possible form of oppression. Despite having more than enough money to try a new hobby every day, her entire personality seems centered around competing in the oppression olympics. Honestly, there’s nothing else to say about her personality—it feels completely empty."
 
I will never cease to be amazed by how a euro girl born into wealth has chosen to claim every possible form of oppression. Despite having more than enough money to try a new hobby every day, her entire personality seems centered around competing in the oppression olympics. Honestly, there’s nothing else to say about her personality—it feels completely empty."
And it seems like her dad will even entertain the troon shit if she at least gives up the damn chair, which makes her life 1000% more difficult along with being a nuisance to everyone around her. Let's remember, because of this chair, she:
  • Needs wheelchair-accessible everything, not just buildings but sidewalks and shit like backpacks and jeans
  • Left rotting food in her parents' house instead of going down the stairs to throw it out
  • Runs over people's toes
  • Severely inhibited her physical therapy
  • Probably will get stranded any time it needs maintenance (ex: stuck in a motel room waiting for the new motor)
  • Is DEFINITELY on her way to real immobility given how her muscles are weakening, plus how fucking fat she's getting
I almost put "limited employment opportunities" but while that's true in theory, she's not even looking for accessible work lol let's be real.
 
I will never cease to be amazed by how a euro girl born into wealth has chosen to claim every possible form of oppression
To me it screams insecurity. She knew she was expected to do something with her life and it was too much. In a working or middle class family she’d be forced to stand on her own two feet out of scarcity of resources, but her family can float her forever.
 
forced to stand on her own two feet
Ableist!

I really enjoy that she's decided to respond to trolls on Twitter. That's always a great way to make your point and turn people's opinions around. Definitely a better use of your time than your coursework, Vicky.
 
Dear Markhoffs:

You may (or may not!) be surprised to discover your daughter is part of an illness-faking, illness-seeking, illness-inducing subculture. We have an entire thread dedicated to the topic. You will find that the specific diagnoses your daughter claims are the entire list of most frequently faked illnesses, and that she fakes symptoms in an even more flagrant way than most people in her community.

I am sorry to hear you are separating. I'm not sure situations like Victoria can always be stopped by good parenting, so I hope this isn't about recriminations over how she turned out. Might've been either of you, both of you, neither of you. Might've been some kid she met at school. Might've been anything. Maybe there was nothing that could be done and the existence of this community online would have been enough to send her into this life no matter what you'd done to keep her from it. Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

Anyway, just know that some strangers on the internet (many of us parents ourselves) feel bad for how stuff turned out. If you ever want to set the record straight, you are always, always welcome to register for the forum.
Summed it up perfectly.

I was about to write something similar, then I realized that her parents are likely so used to Victoria turning molehills into mountians and straight up lying to them, that her warning likely went in through one ear and out the other.

“Mom! Dad! A Nazi doxxing site is after me and they posted my address and your address so be careful!”

“Mmhmm… That’s nice… So how’s school? Did you make it to class last week?”
 
Her NSFW-account is all her, obviously female, stuffing her orifices with dildos (as one does), so I don’t know why people are paying her.
>4' 11"
>flat chest
>small hips

She looks like a 12 year old, I can guess why she has followers...
I have a friend who is “in the know” about lolcows. I was telling him about how I’ve been branching out of stinkditch shit and into munchies and that Victoria is my favorite up and coming lolcow. He promptly reminded me that Victoria is technically stinkditch and I felt like a tard. But it’s like the least insane thing she does.
There's a lot of overlap between munching out and pooning out. The Munchie thread is full of pooners and genderspecials, a cane is actually a common pooner accessory.
You’ll notice she’s no longer calling herself a trans man and is now calling herself transmasc. This is a subtle distinction but it’s important as we continue to watch her trans regret simmer like a pot of delicious stew over a low flame. She wants to back out of this but she can’t because not only is it the identity she’s built for herself but now it’s her source of income. She’s getting sponsorships and booking life coaching sessions and modeling jobs based entirely on being “disabled trans disney dog person.” So she tries to soften the blow by going with “transmasculine.” I’m not really well versed in gender newspeak and I tried to look it up on something called the Gender Wiki which is apparently a thing thank you google. I am more confused than when I started. Because like, I thought it was just a woman who performs stereotypical masculinity which in my day we just called butch (and it was great.) But the wiki here says it’s anyone, usually but not necessarily female, who identifies more with masculinity than femininity but also they don’t have to act or dress the part or like, identify with masculinity in any way. They can be super girly and have no masculine traits or interests but still be transmasculine because… and then like, I had to stop because of all the blood shooting out of my eyes.
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eta: some may be wondering what this fat genderspecial fairy bitch is claiming her illness is... ulcers, celiac and autism.
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Saw this little old lady on GFM. I wonder what her story is?

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Oh, dear. She’s 26. And she thinks she’s male.

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Anyone want to guess the diagnoses?

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Yes. PNES (and neuropathy, which, I guess, maybe). Nothing better for both PNES and neuropathy than plonking your ass down on something motorized though so gimme. Also: hubby is her slave now.

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Not very interesting, I know, but I am really fascinated by (spooky voice here) the intersection of FtM:s & disability chasing. Just, why?
When you think about it, it works out the same way: You announce your disease/your dysphoria to everybody, go doctor shopping until you find one that rubberstamps yes to everything. Then you start your treatment/hormone therapy, and get hospitalized/gender affirming surgery, and pose in a hospital bed glowing in all the attention you're getting. If anybody gives you trouble, call them ableist/transphobic.

The main difference is that it's much, much easier to poon out.
 
A first for me today: I’m actually digging something Vicky wrote.

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I even want to know more, like what happened that made her cope better with suicidal ideation since it’s such a core in personality disordered persons. The last tweet makes me wonder if mom and dad actually hooked her up with a GPM (good/general psychiatric management) doc or therapist. The “thoughts come and go and it’s not the end of the world” is very GPM.

I know people on this forum think BPD is incurable and persisting, but a motivated patient with good support - and by support I mean encouragement to prioritize routines and working on problem behaviors, not pharmaceuticals and navel gazing talk therapy - gets better and sometimes even well. I’m definitely not counting Vicky as one of those motivated people, but still, good for her that the suicidal ideation has stopped. Even for her, I approve of less suffering.

But then she had to spoil it all by saying something stupid like
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Slight sperg about what she said about eating disorders:
Many people who recover really don’t have have “a little voice in their head telling them to restrict or purge” or whatever metaphor works for you, for the rest of their life. It’s very possible to get to a place where even when bad things happen or you are reminded of traumatic things, or when money is tight and you have to cut your food down to less than normal to get through, you don’t actually have that eating disorder impulse, or even think about doing those things to cope with the feelings. It can leave your mind forever except for weird echoes every few years that are more like remembering than hearing a compelling voice. The idea that the eating disorder voice will “forever be in your head” conveniently says that future relapses were inevitable, not your fault, and lets you hold onto the idea that you will “recover” or manage, but never recover.

I really hope she doesn’t think that suicidal people are also doomed to be forever fighting a little voice that says “kill yourself” when bad things happen, that recovering from being suicidal means only managing it for the rest of your life, that you will forever go back to that suicidal place when bad things happen, but maybe BPD chronic suicidal ideation really do be like that? Oh no I’m feeling compassion…

It does sound like she’s starting to engage with some kind of therapy. And I hope some day she realizes that people can get to a place where that voice doesn’t say a thing. And that she’s motivated enough to do the immense amount of work it would take her to get there.
 
No, I was unaware. That is super based, and quite redpilled as well.

Hamas was founded by an actual quadriplegic named Sheikh Ahmed Yassin. I remember reading about when he was killed in ‘04. They used an attack helicopter to kill an old guy in a wheelchair and that was one of the first times I thought there might be something off about the Jews and Israel.

Vicky is probably unaware because she doesn’t actually know the history of Hamas. She just parrots whatever her virtue signaling Twitter friends post.

To be fair if I owned an attack helicopter I'd also find excuses to break it out as often as possible. Attack helicopters are fucking badass. I'd also fit speakers so I could blast fortunate son out of it

Posting the full selfie here so we have it separate from the tweet.
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The getup and respirator makes her look like a true and honest slow-in-da-mind
Maybe she could add 'retarded' to her list of fake conditions
 
Eh I think I’m more cynical about her, she got lots of asspats for the thread about suicidality and I think that was mostly the intent. And yeah she was definitely posting about SI recently when she went for a late night roll to ‘cope’
Also she posted a lot of random shit last night she was probably bored or high or something.

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people on this forum think BPD is incurable and persisting, but a motivated patient with good support - and by support I mean encouragement to prioritize routines and working on problem behaviors, not pharmaceuticals and navel gazing talk therapy - gets better and sometimes even well. I’m definitely not counting Vicky as one of those motivated people, but still, good for her that the suicidal ideation has stopped. Even for her, I approve of less suffering.
Except she's just saying things on her timeline. I'm guessing someone else was getting asspatted for five years of no ideation or whatever so she jumped in with her own story that will be totally discarded next time she needs to suicide-bait on main. As someone else said, she suicide-baited a few weeks back because that cancer lady who she didn't know outside of Twitter died.

I suspect that what has "helped" her more than anything is the threat of being banned from Twitter if she talks specifically and openly about suicide on the timeline. Happened with Becky Gerber too - her suicidality decrease is really a product of Twitter policies, which is hilarious. When BPDs don't get attention for suicidal talk, they tend to pivot towards other attention-getting tactics. They all bitched about Twitter cracking down on that shit, but it's actually improved the mental health of these terminally online Cluster Bs.

And I just gotta say - sure l, theoretically BPDs can "recover" but I've never met a single one, and I was in social work/mental health for over a decade. Even the ones who say they're recovered and talk openly about their BPD are huge fucking messes. Until I meet someone who has genuinely recovered I'm gonna remain skeptical. And as sympathetic as I can maintain because I get that it's not fun to live with, but mostly I'm gonna avoid them.
 
There's a lot of overlap between munching out and pooning out. The Munchie thread is full of pooners and genderspecials, a cane is actually a common pooner accessory.

When you think about it, it works out the same way: You announce your disease/your dysphoria to everybody, go doctor shopping until you find one that rubberstamps yes to everything. Then you start your treatment/hormone therapy, and get hospitalized/gender affirming surgery, and pose in a hospital bed glowing in all the attention you're getting. If anybody gives you trouble, call them ableist/transphobic.

The main difference is that it's much, much easier to poon out.
I honestly consider troons/pooners to be a sub-category of munchies for exactly this reason. Not to mention that the way their online communities work is almost identical.
 
And I just gotta say - sure l, theoretically BPDs can "recover" but I've never met a single one, and I was in social work/mental health for over a decade. Even the ones who say they're recovered and talk openly about their BPD are huge fucking messes
Not gonna argue with your experience but I think we’re talking about different things. I’m not saying they recover and turn into some wonder of adaptive behavior and ace the Big Five after some GPM. It’s more that the level of functioning goes from being Vicky to being someone who can hold down a job and handle a breakup without having to be sectioned. The chaotic inner life will probably spill over in periods of extreme stress, but it no longer has to lead to a suicide attempt and alienating everyone around them.

I’ve been in psychiatry for close to 20 years now and I’ve seen the kind of recovery I described above, but it’s not often, so I get what you’re saying. This is just an observation of mine, don’t have any data, but I’ve seen better results when parents have managed to keep their kids out of children’s psychiatry and they themselves seek help when they’re older. Regular contact with psych as a BPD youth seems to cement the behavior. Maybe because most child psych professionals are insane?
 
the kind of recovery I described above, but it’s not often, so I get what you’re saying.
With the eternal caveat that I'm just some retard on the Internet with no clinical experience whatsoever, this is another one of those social media problems I was talking about in the munchies general, IMO. Not that it's not possible to recover but that especially in our current social media obsessed world, it's going to be increasingly difficult to get there.

they're craving attention because of the disorder. Tiktok/Xitter/Instagram or whatever platform follows them is an easy and ubiquitous source of that. Nearly everyone's on it all the time. It's how an entire generation of youngins keeps in contact with each other. And it rewards the BPD behavior and tells them it's not their fault, break the stigma, you're going to therapy and trying and that's enough, etc etc. while loading them up with new pop psych rationales.

Their choices become engage with the content that will keep them sick while convincing them they're doing better, or become nobody because if your friends don't see your posts they don't think about you anymore, a concept that must be horrifying to someone who has a pathological fear of abandonment.
 
Maybe she could add 'retarded' to her list of fake conditions
Please God let this be the next condishun the Munchie Girls latch onto and all copy off each other, the Simple Jack-tier acting would be so fucking funny.
It would be harm reduction, no one every melted their spine or required a multi-organ transplant from this:
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Come on Victoria, go for mosaic Downs. The helmet will hide your bald head.
 
Many people who recover really don’t have “a little voice in their head telling them to restrict or purge” or whatever metaphor works for you, for the rest of their life. It’s very possible to get to a place where even when bad things happen or you are reminded of traumatic things, or when money is tight and you have to cut your food down to less than normal to get through, you don’t actually have that eating disorder impulse, or even think about doing those things to cope with the feelings. It can leave your mind forever except for weird echoes every few years that are more like remembering than hearing a compelling voice. The idea that the eating disorder voice will “forever be in your head” conveniently says that future relapses were inevitable, not your fault, and lets you hold onto the idea that you will “recover” or manage, but never recover.
I wouldn’t say this is completely accurate, unless I misunderstood your point and we’re basically talking about the same thing here
I recovered from anorexia ages ago at this point, but I still have that little voice in my head that panics if the calorie count on something I want to eat is too high and I have this internal struggle deciding if I should do it or not. I still instinctively compare calorie count when doing groceries and comparing between two different brands, I won’t necessarily buy the one with less calories, I just compare them for no real reason other than habit. And my brain still gets this rush of dopamine when the scale shows a lower number and slight dread if the number climbs.

All of that, however, doesn’t matter anymore because it doesn’t control me, and whatever internal struggle/panic I feel is extremely minimal. I hear that voice and I might get thrown into a loop for a few moments, but ultimately thanks to recovery I can just ignore it completely and not relapse.

So that “ana voice” is still there, but it’s more like an intrusive thought rather than something that’s actually impactful. Like the occasional weird urge you get to throw your phone off the balcony.
 
I wouldn’t say this is completely accurate, unless I misunderstood your point and we’re basically talking about the same thing here
I definitely understand your experience. But not everybody experiences that instinct towards an eating disorder mindset forever, some people do lose the instinctual fear over higher calorie food, automatic calorie comparison, the dopamine with weight loss and dread with gain, the “ana voice” that throws you for a loop for a few minutes.

It’s possible to lose all of that and have years or longer between even thinking of it, for it to just not be in your brain.

I don’t like comparing EDs and addictions because there are differences that are important, but some people are really helped by models like AA, where you will always be “an addict”, you will be battling these intrusive thoughts forever so keep coming to meetings. And some people are really not helped by that. In the same way, not everyone deals with those obsessive weight/calorie thoughts and habits forever (even after more than a decade of disorder.) And deciding that the eating disorder mindset never leaves and you’ll be reflexively calorie counting forever is true for every eating disorder sufferer can make people early in recovery feel more discouraged against doing the work, and more prone to expect relapse at a time where relapse still feels safe and they are more prone to choosing it over new coping skills.

I’m glad you’ve come to terms with the intrusive thoughts. But I do know people who just don’t have them. There are lots of commonalities in recovery, but also many different trajectories.

I really do hope Victoria gets to a point where bad things can happen and she gets emotional and instead of just recognizing and coping that she’s having suicidal thoughts, however minimal, she just doesn’t think “I should kill myself” at all. But I don’t know what BPD chronic suicidal ideation is like. Maybe that IS the equivalent of needing to be on guard against those intrusive thoughts for life.
 
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