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AI art is punishment handed down by THE LORD against xitter artists being annoying
AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities
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ME SMASH UGLY "ARTIST" SCUM WITH COMPUTER AND PEN AND TABLET. COM-PEW-DER NOT REAL ART. SKULL OF ENEMY AND BONE OF FOOD REAL ART. ASH AND SAP REAL ART. ART IS STRUGGLE. NO STRUGGLE MEANS NO ART.
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Not even what I said. They have brains. They should use theirs to adapt instead of insisting the entire world stops for them so they can retain their special status and the benefits it brings. They should also decide if AI art is "soulless" and "bad" or "so good that it's threatening to me" because I'm getting pretty mixed signals. (Hint: If you have to circle tiny details in pictures like a conspiracy theorist and still can't be 100% sure something is AI art and you start hyperventilating each time you see AI art somewhere, chances are it's pretty good. You probably already looked at a ton of AI-assisted art without knowing.)
More whining. You wasted a lot of time of technique that might not be necessary anymore, so what? Technique becomes outdated with age. I have my brain stuffed with a lot
of details of entire computing platforms that simply are irrelevant today. Most of my once highly prized work knowledge is completely outdated. For example I know *a lot* about certain kinds of signal processing in a way that it could actually dox me but it's completely meaningless in a practical way now. It would have never even crossed my mind to demand of the world to stop at that level of tech simply because I was good at it and it made me money. You simply gotta keep up. Besides, knowing these things even from completely outdated tech helped me adapt better vs. somebody that really starts from zero. Privately, I also liked doing pixel art "back in the day" and was somewhat of a pixel artist if I can say so of myself. Future generations now tell me the way I do pixel art is wrong and yes, AI is a lot better at pixel art than me. (not perfect but I could totally see cleaning it up a little and it looking really good with a fraction of the work I would have needed to spend) Does all this get me assblasted? No, because I never defined myself by any of this. (Also nobody can stop me doing pixel art in my wrong and outdated way)
How does AI art hinder the ability of self expression? A person can even self-express through AI art. If somebody is actually worried AI art drowns them out and people don't listen to their self expression anymore, could it be it's because they didn't have anything that unique to say to begin with? That sounds more like a "them" problem to be honest, not a "me" problem.
Not going anywhere.
They should try. If an old fart like me can adapt don't tell me a 20-something twitter "artist" just can't.
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biggacracka
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That is unironically the most based comment against ai art I've read, and it's a joke post
Anti-ai cunts BTFO'd
Annealing Crater
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We need to bring back the tortured artist, for real this time. Upload their minds into an AI and torture it for a million years then copy and paste it back into their heads. That will be real AI art. They'll probably improve too. Artists need to suffer more, they should be grateful.
I think there is a surge of anti-AI sentiment because at this point in time artists have not yet learned how to suffer. And I think AI is going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Art is not going to be the monolith it once was in the last century. AI is going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for artists to make. They are now going into a suffering mode and AI will be resented because of its leading role.
I think there is a surge of anti-AI sentiment because at this point in time artists have not yet learned how to suffer. And I think AI is going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Art is not going to be the monolith it once was in the last century. AI is going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for artists to make. They are now going into a suffering mode and AI will be resented because of its leading role.
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Contemplate suicide because everything you just said comes from a place of profound retardation.
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I mean, people still buy ink and paint despite Photoshop and Gimp being a thing.
People still place value on 2D animation despite 3D animation being a less risky investment.
People will still place value on 100% human drawn content despite there being AI.
People still place value on 2D animation despite 3D animation being a less risky investment.
People will still place value on 100% human drawn content despite there being AI.
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And just imagine the sheer potential for scamming and fleecing people in this area. Artists should love it!
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Anti AI people lose their minds every time people bring up the camera, because it's the perfect counter to all of their arguments. Technology that's existed for ages, has always been about pressing one button while a machine does the rest of the work for you, is entirely built on capturing a perfect duplicate of whatever its pointed at (omg that's infringement!) and yet is considered as much an art as anything else. Self expression mostly through curating the best shot you took and hand-selecting it to share with the world. That's all that's ever been required.
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Hmmmm, that could be interesting to get people to shut up. Even the canvas artists vs digital ones perhaps:
Perhaps it could be interesting to compile a list of good arguments to get them to STFU in potential debates. "You already use a tool that is from technology" "YEAH BUT YOU ARE STEALING" (and how to respond to alegations of stealing).
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Doesn't work. "But that's different! You actually have to walk somewhere to take a photo, effort is involved! It's not just pressing one button, photographers work tirelessly to become masters of their craft! And photography's not the same as traditional art anyway so I don't care, sure, photography isn't art either now!"
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Things are gonna get wild when truly multimodal models become more viable and you can actually do things like talk to them like to a normal LLM and plan out for example several cartoon panels that will also be consistent to each other/be the same scene with the same characters, background etc.. I'm not sure how they will recover from that.
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Thank you, I forgot about this video!
Ah yes, the never stopping "what about"-isms...
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Generally art photography requires rather more. You had to pick a camera (with multiple film formats available), film (which comes in a lot of varieties or at least used to before nearly dying), even physical tricks in the development process like dodging and burning (to emphasize or deemphasize and lighten or darken parts of the picture), or even more tricks (some of which were invented by individual photographers to have unique effects).
Even now, with digital cameras as easy as point and shoot as they are, you're probably going to spend more time post-photograph working on it in some kind of software suite than you did actually getting it.
AI can generate thousands of crappy images in a very brief time and they'll all look samey and undistinctive. Actually getting good results with it takes time and effort, just like any other tool. People throwing a tantrum about it are hysterical screechers who need to STFU and stick their head in an oven.
I'm not talking about legitimate issues, like when some site like dA suddenly changes their TOS and starts harvesting work that was put there before AI was even a thing, but to the extent you have legal access to a work in the first place (i.e. you did not steal it from behind a paywall), you have the right to look at it and do things with it, and there's no reason using it to make a model isn't entirely within that.
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True, but all of this applies to AI as well (choosing the model, the weights, the CFG, the steps, etc.).
And it's also true that some of the most iconic photos in history weren't made by experts who dialed in every setting perfectly, but someone who was in the right place at the right time and happened to get the shot. Some of these shots have less famous alternates from before or after...it's the specificity, the curation, that makes it a valuable expression.
Nothing says "I don't care about something" like making an entire video seething about it.
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As someone who's partner is deep in the tech industry with coding/AI in particular, I have to say this guy has no idea what he's talking about. AI as a utility is just too useful across many sectors, it's not going anywhere. The normie meme hype may have died down, but AI is here to stay.
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I agree with most of his points, however this feels like calling it way too early that people "don't care" about AI anymore (as clearly demonstrated ITT). Yes, I do think the average consumer doesn't see much point in using ChatGPT or AI ImageGens other than for goofing off or that they could just use Google for looking things up, but if 3 years in and we're seeing a stagnant decline of interest in AI, then you can say that nobody "cares" about AI anymore. But as it stands there's still clearly a big interest in it, especially on the business side of usability and marketing.