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Side note, does anyone here have any non-beer or wine drink recommendations for election night?
Black coffee or matcha tea, then again that’s what I usually drink anyway. If that’s too somber for you, Code Red.

If you really want alcohol: scotch and water, a White or Black Russian, or watered-down cherry vodka.
 
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Updated numbers on NJ aren't exactly the best (well, still a whole percent higher), now that I found the website:

https://election.lab.ufl.edu/early-.../2024-general-election-early-vote-new-jersey/ / Megalodon / https://archive.is/mdFBE

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Betting markets are worth even less than polls, and Yes, Trump can win without PA if he gets any of the other "lean dem" states to be republican. (He needs 2 EVs to make up the loss of PA and still win)

If PA is called early, though, it's almost certain Trump wins.
I linked that site earlier. I would recommend comparing 2020 numbers.

2020 version of the site: https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html

For NJ specifically: https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/NJ.html

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Looking at returned mail ballots:
  • Democrats: 439k, 58.7% share, previously 1,576k, 43.1% share
  • Republicans: 150k, 20.5% share, previously 949k, 26% share
  • None/Minor: 153k, 20.9% share, previously 1,131k, 30.9% share
  • Total: 734k ballots returned, previously 3,658k ballots returned

2020 mail in ballots are obviously due to COVID. There was no in-person early voting apparently, or at least the site doesn't list it.

2024 in-person early voting:
  • Democrats: 362k, 35.7%
  • Republicans: 358k, 35.3%
  • None/Minor: 295k, 29%
  • Total: 1,016k
Between in-person early voting and mail-in ballots the total is 1,750k votes vs 3,658k in the previous election. So there's probably nearly 2 million votes yet to be cast. This seems like an oddly high number, which would indicate either people don't give a shit about voting or nearly 50% of votes are going to be done on election day.

I know registrations have changed but just doing some simple comparisons.

year/partymail-in ballotin-person votingtotal
2020 Democrats1,576kN/A1,567k
2020 Republicans949kN/A949k
2020 None/Minor1,131kN/A1,131k
2024 Democrats439k362k802k
2024 Republicans150k358k512k
2024 None/Minor153k295k453k

So far comparing % that voted early in 2024 vs 2020:
  • Democrats: 51%
  • Republicans: 53%
  • None/Minor: 40%
I wonder why so many unaffiliated didn't vote early, only 40% is extremely low compared to Democrats/Republicans that are within a point of each other. Since Republicans vote more often in person on election day than Democrats I wonder if that's why there's such a gap. Still seems extremely odd to me.
 
Truthfully, though, they're all horrible. If those people could ever see what kind of thermonuclear horror they were leaving for their loved ones I just can't imagine they'd do it.
Inflicting that pain and horror on others is a lot of the point for some of these people. I think that's part of why the ancients cross culturally recognized suicide as an unforgivable sin.
 
Trump is trying to bring the economy back to pre WW2 functionality. Or was it the civil war that implemented the income tax?
The reason the United States has an income tax is because before the Passing of prohibition the various taxes on Alcohol made up around 40% of Government Revenue so in order for the Prohibitionists to get alcohol banned they had to introduce something to replace all that lost revenue beforehand which was the Federal Income tax which passed in 1913 with Prohibition coming into effect 4 years later.
 
Inflicting that pain and horror on others is a lot of the point for some of these people. I think that's part of why the ancients cross culturally recognized suicide as an unforgivable sin.
No, I respectfully disagree. So many genuinely suicidal people I've worked with are so completely distraught that they're just seeking escape.

Suicide is selfish, but I've almost never seen it be intended to cause hurt.
 
No, I respectfully disagree. So many genuinely suicidal people I've worked with are so completely distraught that they're just seeking escape.

Suicide is selfish, but I've almost never seen it be intended to cause hurt.
Yeah, well, some of them are just family annihilators who were too chickenshit to point a weapon at the people they hate.

Anyhow, total suicidal person shame, no apologies, back on topic.
 
Yeah, well, some of them are just family annihilators who were too chickenshit to point a weapon at the people they hate.

Anyhow, total suicidal person shame, no apologies, back on topic.
I hold them in an entire different category. I've never had a family annihilation job. That feels of shame and inability to face the horror of what the perp has done.
 
Oh my god, my dad used to read that shit incessantly and he was Conservative as fuck (I got most of my political opinions from him, thank god.) You telling me it's been shittified too?

My dad has DR automatically load on every page and the stuff he talks about lines up with DR. He voted for Haley in the primaries, and it explains why he talked so much about the Liz Cheney comment.

Basically except for my parents (weak R) and my dad's sister, my extended family is functionally apolitical or solidly blue.
 
On a serious note, does anyone know a good stream to watch? Should I use Kino casino or Tucker? I'd love to watch the young roaches, but I don't care for Chunky Yogurt.
Null is on with kino, but it’s Null and he does not vote or pay attention to politics beyond the judicial system.
 
I know it's a pipedream, but if P'nut and Fred flip New York their sacrifice will have been worth it. I mean, the NYDEC Bureaucratic monsters should still be punished, but I know Team Blue types in New York that will lose their fucking minds and it will be glorious.
I sure would hate it if the anonymous snitch Karens who narc'd on Mark Longo to the NY DEC Karens had their names leaked, in Minecraft. None of us here would like that at all.

On a similar topic, I guess no one was able to create the AI image of P'nut, Harambe, and Terry A. Davis as requested earlier upthread. That's a pity. I was looking forward to that.
On a serious note, does anyone know a good stream to watch? Should I use Kino casino or Tucker? I'd love to watch the young roaches, but I don't care for Chunky Yogurt.
Why would anyone willingly watch KC on election night? Two shouting, annoying Leafs who know fuck all about anything but "da Sektur"? No, thank you. Plus, our gracious host, who hates everyone in the Thunderdome and also knows bugger all about American politics, is going be a guest with PPP and retarded Andy. Hard pass.
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It's a soft drink, though. My boozing days are behind me.
Whew. That takes some moxie to get down. HT, my dude.

I wish I had a case of Tab to drink Tuesday night. 😥
 
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