Why are atheists so fucking rude?

[SpinelessArtist]

Title is self-explanatory enough. Always, and I mean always, when I see a Youtube video that mentions something even if slightly that resembles religion you can bet your sorry asses that there will be a gaggle of atheists in the comments spamming comments about "muh sky daddy" and mocking religion/christians and such.

Why is that? Why are these people so smug, so annoying, but still think they're in the right? Why this aversion against Christianity, even when someone is talking about themselves and not trying to push anything on anyone? Why, even on occasions where they try to be "respectful", they still treat people as if they are nothing but gullible babies and that THEY are the "oh so enlightened" ones. That is really hypocritical, when they ascribe this self-righteousness to Christians instead

Quora and Reddit are the biggest offenders of this.

 

[We Are The Witches]

This would be more fun if you posted captures and screenshots of that.

 

[Heem 'em all.]

Because they have a god shaped hole in their heart, and a dragon shaped dildo in their hole.

 

[OrionBalls]

Many people have had bad experiences with organized religions in the past. They attribute these wrongdoings and hypocrisy to all Christians, because at least culturally, we are a country with a Christian majority. Their bigotry and animosity should be approached and remedied with grace. While they are not called on to love their neighbors, I am.

 

[SpinelessArtist]

God I know I should turn the other cheek and be more kind but I seriously can't when I see comments like these. It breaks my heart. I just want people to find Jesus, but I never "push" my faith onto anyone. Why must they discredit everything I am like this? It's like they're targeting a key part of myself with these petty insults.

I get many atheists have had nasty experiences with religion. I do. I was a JW once and it made me agnostic for many years but I NEVER was this openly hateful with other Christians. It just hurts man. Quora is literal Hell.
And then they like to pretend they're doing it "for a good reason" when all it is is targeted attacks. They're not helping anyone if that's what their objective is...

 

[parsnip]

It's because you're only seeing idiots online who happen to be atheist. Where I live there's a pretty high population of atheists and we do the same thing when someone talks about their religion that we do when someone talks about something else we don't believe in like horoscopes. We just nod politely and wait for the topic to move on. Seriously. I can't think of a single person I spend time with who isn't an atheist, and none of us are going out of our way to make fun of religious people. It rarely even comes up in conversation. When you don't believe in God it's just something you don't think about, unless you're being an edgelord loser. We even attend religious services like weddings and baptisms without being assholes about it.

 

[LilypaCastsUpper]

Maybe people like Christopher Hitchens and the other "New Atheism" authors are smug pseudo-intellectual provocateur grifters childishly punching down at the softest of targets. Maybe this attitude trickles through the consumers of their books/speeches and creates internet trolls. There are older intellectual traditions of Atheism that are more tactful but probably less lucrative.

Pop scientist Neil DeGrease Tyson is another similar type of tool. Things we think we know now we will find out in 100 years were completely wrong, so there should be a certain measure of humbleness and tact that scientists should have - Mr. DeGrease Tyson chicken missed that memo, or maybe he has autism and can't tell that he comes off as smug.

Quora is literal Hell.

Lol. Well if you say things like this then you are asking to get trolled.

 

[Bill Evans 45]

Parsnip has it right. The atheists you're coming across online are fedora edgelord types. Some of them have made atheism a religious practice. They have their prophets and texts (Dawkins et al) and they proselytize harder than Mormons. I raised this with one of them irl and there was much consternation at the comparison.

All you can do is offer a quick prayer for them and move along.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

Individuals like Christopher Hitchens (and the larger "4 Horsemen of Atheism" movement) made insulting believers their whole schtick, because retardation only breeds retardation, the ideology devolved into figures like TJ Kirk or Thunderf00t. Arrogant individuals who could only "debate" others on the internet and were there just to assert how right they were. Think of IBS but more pretentious

 

[SpinelessArtist]

It's because you're only seeing idiots online who happen to be atheist. Where I live there's a pretty high population of atheists and we do the same thing when someone talks about their religion that we do when someone talks about something else we don't believe in like horoscopes. We just nod politely and wait for the topic to move on. Seriously. I can't think of a single person I spend time with who isn't an atheist, and none of us are going out of our way to make fun of religious people. It rarely even comes up in conversation. When you don't believe in God it's just something you don't think about, unless you're being an edgelord loser. We even attend religious services like weddings and baptisms without being assholes about it.

I sure do hope so. I also have an atheist friend and we sometimes discuss things about religion, politely, of course. I guess people are way too comfortable talking crap on the internet. It just really sucks to read these types of comments under innocuous videos and posts. Just look at this example. An Olympic cyclist was diagnosed with terminal cancer, together with his wife, and this is what a presumptuous jerk had to say replying to a comment sending thoughts and prayers to the couple:

And there were many comments agreeing with him too. I know about the unfairness of it all... But dude. Things have a time and place. What are you gonna do, pray for science to save him? It clearly wasn't enough to help this poor man and his family.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Atheism is gay and retarded and always has been. The bad experiences people have with religion are only reflective of the scumbag industrialization of religion. That doesn't reflect true spirituality or the teachings that religion tries to preach. There's more than one religion for a reason and abandoning your spiritual journey just because you attended some faggoty megachurch is literally retarded. Even from a heckin' science perspective, something had to initiate this world and there a clear pattern to the way the world works. There's also a clear pattern to how people and society work. Ignoring this is equivalent to ignoring reality.

I understand that everyone goes through an edgelord phase but staying in that edge Lord phase past the age of 20 is ridiculous and embarrassing and you should be ashamed of yourself. Your life is long and if you haven't experienced things you wouldn't call "Acts of God", you just haven't lived long enough. Sometimes the church sucks, it's run by humans and humans are imperfect. That's no excuse for ignoring the way the world works.

As far as society goes, yes. People do need a book to tell them murder is wrong. The abortion debate thread is a perfect example as to why. Society needs framework and religion and God to unite people. It's why our brains evolved to allow belief in a higher power like God. It enables us to create societies. These are facts and disagreement just makes you a retarded nigger. Atheism isn't just wrong, it literally makes you dumber.

 

[CallmeCicada]

Individuals like Christopher Hitchens (and the larger "4 Horsemen of Atheism" movement) made insulting believers their whole schtick, because retardation only breeds retardation, the ideology devolved into figures like TJ Kirk or Thunderf00t. Arrogant individuals who could only "debate" others on the internet and were there just to assert how right they were. Think of IBS but more pretentious

Hitchens, other people like him and Internet Atheists always came off to me like they are resentful at Religion because of some negative experience they had growing up. It always came off as something personal or emotional and not something logical (like how they posture themselves to be) because they just refuse to even say a single good thing about Religion or give Religious institution any merit/credit of doing anything good and have a generally demeaning attitude on people who are Religious and will outright attack them for the strangest reasons that often feel like projection.

 

[parsnip]

Hitchens, other people like him and Internet Atheists always came off to me like they are resentful at Religion because of some negative experience they had growing up. It always came off as something personal or emotional and not something logical (like how they posture themselves to be) because they just refuse to even say a single good thing about Religion or give Religious institution any merit/credit of doing anything good and have a generally demeaning attitude on people who are Religious and will outright attack them for the strangest reasons that often feel like projection.

I agree with this too. I was raised in the church. I've probably read the bible more times than a lot of people who consider themselves Christian. I just never believed it, not even when I was a kid. It all seemed like stories to me, then as I learned more and found out there were countless different versions of these stories throughout human history it just seemed much more like man created God and not the other way around. I have no problem with religion. I always enjoyed church. I just don't believe any of it and never have.

 

[Local Farmer]

Individuals like Christopher Hitchens (and the larger "4 Horsemen of Atheism" movement) made insulting believers their whole schtick, because retardation only breeds retardation, the ideology devolved into figures like TJ Kirk or Thunderf00t. Arrogant individuals who could only "debate" others on the internet and were there just to assert how right they were. Think of IBS but more pretentious

To Dawkins credit, I think he realized that what he was actually pushing for in the end was not secularism, but a Muslim theocracy

Hitchens, other people like him and Internet Atheists always came off to me like they are resentful at Religion because of some negative experience they had growing up. It always came off as something personal or emotional and not something logical (like how they posture themselves to be) because they just refuse to even say a single good thing about Religion or give Religious institution any merit/credit of doing anything good and have a generally demeaning attitude on people who are Religious and will outright attack them for the strangest reasons that often feel like projection.

I actually disagree as I believe Hitchens and Dawkins, although aggressive we’re still some what respectable and actually had a life outside of dunking on Christians, the people that followed them used the fact that they were considered intellectuals to push their own shitty versions of Atheism/anti-theism

 

[MadStan]

How would you know someone in the general public who was rude to you, was religious or not?

 

[CallmeCicada]

I actually disagree as I believe Hitchens and Dawkins, although aggressive we’re still some what respectable and actually had a life outside of dunking on Christians, the people that followed them used the fact that they were considered intellectuals to push their own shitty versions of Atheism/anti-theism

It just feels different to me when they talk about Religion rather than anything else. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I hear it. It's just hard to explain in text. You're also 100% right about their followers, it's mostly just aping their talking points and taking a pocket knife/modeling clay to carve them up or add onto whatever point they want to make. I would think it's safe to say most of their audience who are like that are from the US, which is funny because Americans seems to listen to people more just because they have a British accent (i.e. Sargon, lmao).

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

To Dawkins credit, I think he realized that what he was actually pushing for in the end was not secularism, but a Muslim theocracy

He was born in the UK, that was a given even before the late-2000s. Even then for someone who had been part of marxist groups earlier in life, he should have realized that even secular movements sooner or later either adopt religious connotations or become religions outright, an atheistic utopia of sorts is just simply not feasible

 

[Local Farmer]

It just feels different to me when they talk about Religion rather than anything else. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I hear it. It's just hard to explain in text. You're also 100% right about their followers, it's mostly just aping their talking points and taking a pocket knife/modeling clay to carve them up or add onto whatever point they want to make. I would think it's safe to say most of their audience who are like that are from the US, which is funny because Americans seems to listen to people more just because they have a British accent (i.e. Sargon, lmao).

I don’t doubt that Dawkins is probably one of the best Evolutionary Psychologists alive. Hitchens was a brilliant journalist in which his book Cyprus is on my reading list. I think they were initially a knee jerk reaction to the Evangelical Jeebus freaks in the 90’s and early 2000’s.

They both certainly have their flaws but they weren’t stupid. However, any edgy teenager can watch a compilation of them thinking their some kind of Genius.

He was born in the UK, that was a given even before the late-2000s. Even then for someone who had been part of marxist groups earlier in life, he should have realized that even secular movements sooner or later either adopt religious connotations or become religions outright, an atheistic utopia of sorts is just simply not feasible

Can you imagine what a lethal blow to online atheism it would be if he converted?

I think Dawkins exists in the same category as John Cleese, in which they both existed in a society that was respectful and high trust while being self aware so they were allowed to be tongue and cheek assholes about it. However unlike Cleese, I think Dawkins would do anything to go back to it

 

[CallmeCicada]

I don’t doubt that Dawkins is probably one of the best Evolutionary Psychologists alive. Hitchens was a brilliant journalist in which his book Cyprus is on my reading list. I think they were initially a knee jerk reaction to the Evangelical Jeebus freaks in the 90’s and early 2000’s.

They both certainly have their flaws but they weren’t stupid. However, any edgy teenager can watch a compilation of them thinking their some kind of Genius.

Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike them or think they're fools. But I don't agree with them on Religion, that's all.

 

[Local Farmer]

Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike them or think they're fools. But I don't agree with them on Religion, that's all.

Honestly I’ve always had a fascination with Dawkins, I of course do not agree with him either but I think we can lay out respects where their due.

Aquinas gave great Respect to Averroes, even going so far as to give him a special label of “The commentator” even though he fundamentally disagreed with him on a lot

Edit: I think I should also add that a lot of Atheists who misappropriate them also end up being anti-intellectuals when it comes to fields like western philosophy and History as they see anything remotely close to the Church or Christianity as being antithetical to their beliefs, that being “Le religious guy dumb” when in fact, people like Aquinas, Abelard and Erasmus are essential understanding European Identity