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I dunno, if I ever ended up in Niantic, I might take a minute to pour a beer on his grave. Well, I'd have drunk it a couple hours beforehand, but whatever.
Secret Gamer Girl / SecretGamerGrrl / Googleshng / "Violet Hargrave" / Jacob Lawrence (Jake) Alley / Violet Cassandra Ocean - Delusional Zoe Quinn Stalker, Libelous Tweeter, Thirsty Gnome, Faux-Tranny Neckbeard Incel, Micropenis, "Known Troubled Person", Creator of "Massive vs the Masses", Self-Described "Noise Making Thing"; Lives in Niantic, CT
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I dunno, if I ever ended up in Niantic, I might take a minute to pour a beer on his grave. Well, I'd have drunk it a couple hours beforehand, but whatever.
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It is also a form of power play: to be noticed by Senpai means you're a big banana (c.f. Andrew Dobbo and Banana Wu)
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Too Fat to Flip: The Short Story of Jake Alley.
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Jake, they are going to make a movie for the Lifetime network about your life.Interesting he's amping up the threats and even tweeting during normal hours for maximum effect - and being very specific about the ONE person who can save him but won't.
It's like a creepy evolution of the nice guy persona.
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There is an opposite world Trump supporting, sports loving, transphobic, misogynist Jake Alley on twitter...it's amazing....
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Interesting he's amping up the threats and even tweeting during normal hours for maximum effect - and being very specific about the ONE person who can save him but won't.
So what the hell does he want Zoe to say to him?
"I'm sorry."
"Fuck me."
"Here's money."
???
Also, someone really needs to drag Greta and TLL into this before this proud be-dicked, beardo tranwomyn bites it. Seriously, they're supposed to take even cries for help seriously. This is why they exist - to keep specimens like Jake from annoying their cats to death with ill-conceived death wishes. Jake's mom doesn't need to be notified - she seems like a slightly daft but ultimately sweet, hardworking, tolerant woman. I can't imagine what it would feel like to have to read around Christmas that the son you destroyed your youth to bear, who you cared for for 35 fruitless years, who you cook and clean for and take to dinner and cheerfully live with even though he is a shitstain of a human being, is lying about your transphobia and cruelty to get a pathological liar with sexual impulse control to notice him. But TLL definitely need to be monitoring him. Anyone with clean alt please let them know about Jake. They need to earn some of the money they were granted.
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Watching Crystal Hall go on a "Zoe Quinn killed Secret Gamer Girl" campaign would be pretty fucking funny.
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Massive spergery from Jake on Monday about the new Star Wars movie. http://archive.is/E6ciO
I was really blown away by how well this movie handled the protagonists. For each of the half dozen characters:
We introduce them.
We establish an endearing personal quirk.
We establish something they're good at.
They get a spotlight roll in a good 2 or 3 cool scenes where they can really shine.
They have a personal character arc.
They get a nice little heroic death.
That's pretty much the ideal for any character in any story (well, not necessarily the heroic death part), and I could probably count on one hand the number of stories in any medium I've seen that can actually deliver that for everyone. And it's even more impressive to do it with this many characters in as timely a manner as this does, to the point where I'd encourage writers to study it as a basic 101 primer for how to establish characters.
Bonus points for managing the tightrope walk of making everyone likable enough to root for, but not so endearing to get you tearing up when everyone dies at the end (and for doing the sensible thing and killing everyone's favorite character first and just rip the bandaid right off).
All and all, what it does with its characters is enough for me to more than balance out all the flaws. That said, holy @#$% were there some FLAWS.
For starters, I can't think of another movie that was so inconsistent about pronouncing its own main character's name. I swear half the cast say "Jin" and half say "Jen" and that is a weird problem for a movie to have.
Also weird, basically everything from Jyn closing that bunker hatch as a child up to... roughly the halfway point of the movie is an incoherent mess of scenes that only make sense in the context of an earlier draft where this was a movie primarily about Saw Gerrera, as opposed to one where he's... kind of this utterly redundant McGuffin-father-figure. Seriously, his only actual importance to the movie is that in the process of sending Jyn out to find her dad as an excuse to get all the characters together and get the plot rolling, finding her surrogate father seems like a promising start. Cut him completely and you lose nothing to the overall narrative. Mind, I'd like to see the cut where he actually DOES matter to the plot, getting all Apocalypse Now with his culty group and/or going full Metal Gear introducing us to more of his comrades than just Psycho Octopus.
Similarly, while it DID make a nice backdrop for introducing half the characters, I think they were way too on the nose with Space Afghanistan. After a point your drawing on people's real world understanding of what war looks like stops being an influence and starts breaking immersion (especially the tank! Things don't roll along the ground in Star Wars, they hover like meter over the ground, or they have legs), and it feels a little disrespectful too, playing things so close to current real world horrors like that.
Also for a standalone movie it... really doesn't stand alone very well. There's a serious issue of stakes, in particular. In a vacuum, the climax of the movie coming down to passing a hint on how to defeat a superweapon on to people so they can work out a way to defeat it and then just stopping the movie is... just unacceptable writing? The heroes all die without knowing if their efforts ultimately had any point at all, as an audience we don't actually get to see if they do either (and it's not even an intentionally unambiguous point, because obviously we KNOW, from external sources), and the villains aren't... particularly brought up to speed on the plot at all?
And in context, it's arguably even worse? In the context of A New Hope, all the events and sacrifice in this movie boil down to... setting up a quick infodump to set the scene for the big climax... and nobody getting that infodump really knows or cares about anyone from Rogue One at all.
There really isn't a fix for this either, it's an inherent problem baked into deciding to make this movie. You could awkwardly end it with a big "Later..." and then splice in footage from A New Hope's climax, but that doesn't work unless you establish those characters earlier here, and I don't want to stick Luke in this background side story. You can't even sell the heroes being successful by ending on the villains silently brooding about their upcoming doom because... like half an hour after the end of this movie we have them all sitting around a boardroom being all smug and self-satisfied. Which leads into another semi-inherent problem.
There really isn't a good villain in here... and it'd be hard to really have one. Vader's off the table, as is the few seconds of screentime he has are pushing things. Tarkin's better, and I'm glad they worked him in, but his whole deal is being blinded by arrogance in the next movie, so, he can't really be made aware of this sort of thing. So we've got the... evil space emperor's scary goon, checking on this trusted general, who's overseeing this newly created project manager, who in turn delegates to the main character's dad, and even THEN he's just kinda awkwardly shoehorned in for a climactic villain moment with no real connection to anything. His whole character is just kind of a piece of duct tape over a leaky pipe. Case to be made you don't NEED a villain because the Death Star's the villain, but, it doesn't actually get any comeuppance. Would be nice to have like... some bottom of the barrel storm trooper or techie or something as a proper consistent antagonist totally in on the plot but too far from power to convince anyone it was a big deal, or something.
But jumping back to the not standing alone... for a self-contained movie laser focused on expanding a backstory out of a minor detail of an info-dump in the original movie, and doing such a great job of feeling like it's specifically a part of that same world... way the hell do we have like 50 shout outs to random crap pulled from the deepest layers of Wookiepedia? Like the whole kyber crystal thing. There is a sense in teaching me the name of the Magic Space Rocks that make lightsabers work if I am playing a videogame with a crafting system, or if you are establishing some particular magic property of them that is sensible in that context, and going to be relevant to some big dramatic reveal later. Like, if there was a scene towards the end where Jyn had to jury-rig some kind of Light Exacto Knife out of her pendant to cut through something, sure, talk about them a bunch... but we're not. We're just talking about them (and namedropping Journey of the Whills and a ton of other random references to books/comics/cartoons/etc.) just... for the sake of referring to them/letting the author brag about being a superfan. And then there's stuff like Rude Man and Walrus Friend appearing for a cameo where not only do they do absolutely nothing, but forces you to imagine them having to just haul ass to the nearest ship as soon as they walk by and floor it to rush to a bar on another planet just in time to randomly screw with Luke and get maimed and like... what's the payoff for having to jump through this logical hoop again? Nothing at all?
The only random outside reference/cameo that isn't just there for the sake of being there is Bail Organa just randomly showing up for a couple lines of exposition, basically just saying "See, so that's why Leia sent a message to Obi-Wan!" but... OK that's really not a mystery that needed explaining, and also really not a character worth bringing back? He's just here to go "hey, remember the prequels? They officially happened!" but I mean... he isn't really a character in the prequels? In those he's ALSO a totally superfluous piece of glue? "Hey, so Leia must have been raised by SOMEONE on Alderaan right? Here, it's this guy!" So... all his appearances are just to remind you other movies exist and are being referenced. His name may as well be [citation].
I'd also be inclined to gripe about making the first major character in a Star Wars movie played by Chinese actor such a stereotypical blind kung-fu monk too, but the SECOND shows up like half a second later and he's as far from that as you can get. Plus I don't want to end on a gripe because, seriously, I liked the characters enough to make up for all of those gripes.
In particular, the aforementioned two characters are really great. Chirrut I appreciate the hell out of for the same reason I really like Maz- It enriches the setting to remind us that there is this whole actual religion behind the Jedi, and they're not just this secret order of magic space knights. Maz is really cool because she's clearly religious, with it having tangible effects on her life, but not being someone who ever like, trained with Yoda in a swamp or something, and Chirrut's cool because he's actually part of the clergy of that religion and still approaching it as a religion and not a means of learning telekinesis and acrobatics (although he's still pretty martial about it). I dig that in a general sense of, OK, Obi-Wan is a full on paladin, Chirrut is a cleric, Maz is just a rogue or wizard or whatever who stuck "The Force" down in the deity blank and is taking that seriously.
But then what I really love is Baze, because he's totally not a believer at all in any sort of pious sense, but... there's this whole character dynamic between these two where they're first properly introduced, with Baze just fully unloading his big @#$%ing full-auto laser machine-gun deal at everyone around Chirrut without hitting him, and this whole exchange about him doing reckless stuff like that because his faith will protect him and whether that's his faith in his religion or his faith in his big tough gun toting friend having his back. And it's nice and ambiguous as the movie goes on whether it's a case of which it is protecting him...
... but if you go back and watch the original movies, and in particular, A New Hope, that's... not really a distinction to be made there? Literally all the progress Luke makes in the original movie in understanding the force is getting it drilled into him that if you just kinda go with the flow and trust your feelings (particularly feelings of affection and concern for people you care about) the force will show you how to move to avoid getting shot and guide your aim when you shoot other stuff. So it's not unreasonable to assume that, basically, Baze is the hands down best marksman in all of Star Wars, despite his weapon of choice clearly not being designed with accuracy as a real concern (and firing it from the hip at that), thanks largely if not entirely to the power of love and friendship, which he'd totally deny and doesn't believe to exist. I dig the heck out of that. He really fills a niche a lot of established characters are on one side of or the other.
And again, it's really weird for this movie to simultaneously have that good a handle on the original movie's take on the force/such deft character establishment, while also thinking we need to talk about magic space rocks and such.
We introduce them.
We establish an endearing personal quirk.
We establish something they're good at.
They get a spotlight roll in a good 2 or 3 cool scenes where they can really shine.
They have a personal character arc.
They get a nice little heroic death.
That's pretty much the ideal for any character in any story (well, not necessarily the heroic death part), and I could probably count on one hand the number of stories in any medium I've seen that can actually deliver that for everyone. And it's even more impressive to do it with this many characters in as timely a manner as this does, to the point where I'd encourage writers to study it as a basic 101 primer for how to establish characters.
Bonus points for managing the tightrope walk of making everyone likable enough to root for, but not so endearing to get you tearing up when everyone dies at the end (and for doing the sensible thing and killing everyone's favorite character first and just rip the bandaid right off).
All and all, what it does with its characters is enough for me to more than balance out all the flaws. That said, holy @#$% were there some FLAWS.
For starters, I can't think of another movie that was so inconsistent about pronouncing its own main character's name. I swear half the cast say "Jin" and half say "Jen" and that is a weird problem for a movie to have.
Also weird, basically everything from Jyn closing that bunker hatch as a child up to... roughly the halfway point of the movie is an incoherent mess of scenes that only make sense in the context of an earlier draft where this was a movie primarily about Saw Gerrera, as opposed to one where he's... kind of this utterly redundant McGuffin-father-figure. Seriously, his only actual importance to the movie is that in the process of sending Jyn out to find her dad as an excuse to get all the characters together and get the plot rolling, finding her surrogate father seems like a promising start. Cut him completely and you lose nothing to the overall narrative. Mind, I'd like to see the cut where he actually DOES matter to the plot, getting all Apocalypse Now with his culty group and/or going full Metal Gear introducing us to more of his comrades than just Psycho Octopus.
Similarly, while it DID make a nice backdrop for introducing half the characters, I think they were way too on the nose with Space Afghanistan. After a point your drawing on people's real world understanding of what war looks like stops being an influence and starts breaking immersion (especially the tank! Things don't roll along the ground in Star Wars, they hover like meter over the ground, or they have legs), and it feels a little disrespectful too, playing things so close to current real world horrors like that.
Also for a standalone movie it... really doesn't stand alone very well. There's a serious issue of stakes, in particular. In a vacuum, the climax of the movie coming down to passing a hint on how to defeat a superweapon on to people so they can work out a way to defeat it and then just stopping the movie is... just unacceptable writing? The heroes all die without knowing if their efforts ultimately had any point at all, as an audience we don't actually get to see if they do either (and it's not even an intentionally unambiguous point, because obviously we KNOW, from external sources), and the villains aren't... particularly brought up to speed on the plot at all?
And in context, it's arguably even worse? In the context of A New Hope, all the events and sacrifice in this movie boil down to... setting up a quick infodump to set the scene for the big climax... and nobody getting that infodump really knows or cares about anyone from Rogue One at all.
There really isn't a fix for this either, it's an inherent problem baked into deciding to make this movie. You could awkwardly end it with a big "Later..." and then splice in footage from A New Hope's climax, but that doesn't work unless you establish those characters earlier here, and I don't want to stick Luke in this background side story. You can't even sell the heroes being successful by ending on the villains silently brooding about their upcoming doom because... like half an hour after the end of this movie we have them all sitting around a boardroom being all smug and self-satisfied. Which leads into another semi-inherent problem.
There really isn't a good villain in here... and it'd be hard to really have one. Vader's off the table, as is the few seconds of screentime he has are pushing things. Tarkin's better, and I'm glad they worked him in, but his whole deal is being blinded by arrogance in the next movie, so, he can't really be made aware of this sort of thing. So we've got the... evil space emperor's scary goon, checking on this trusted general, who's overseeing this newly created project manager, who in turn delegates to the main character's dad, and even THEN he's just kinda awkwardly shoehorned in for a climactic villain moment with no real connection to anything. His whole character is just kind of a piece of duct tape over a leaky pipe. Case to be made you don't NEED a villain because the Death Star's the villain, but, it doesn't actually get any comeuppance. Would be nice to have like... some bottom of the barrel storm trooper or techie or something as a proper consistent antagonist totally in on the plot but too far from power to convince anyone it was a big deal, or something.
But jumping back to the not standing alone... for a self-contained movie laser focused on expanding a backstory out of a minor detail of an info-dump in the original movie, and doing such a great job of feeling like it's specifically a part of that same world... way the hell do we have like 50 shout outs to random crap pulled from the deepest layers of Wookiepedia? Like the whole kyber crystal thing. There is a sense in teaching me the name of the Magic Space Rocks that make lightsabers work if I am playing a videogame with a crafting system, or if you are establishing some particular magic property of them that is sensible in that context, and going to be relevant to some big dramatic reveal later. Like, if there was a scene towards the end where Jyn had to jury-rig some kind of Light Exacto Knife out of her pendant to cut through something, sure, talk about them a bunch... but we're not. We're just talking about them (and namedropping Journey of the Whills and a ton of other random references to books/comics/cartoons/etc.) just... for the sake of referring to them/letting the author brag about being a superfan. And then there's stuff like Rude Man and Walrus Friend appearing for a cameo where not only do they do absolutely nothing, but forces you to imagine them having to just haul ass to the nearest ship as soon as they walk by and floor it to rush to a bar on another planet just in time to randomly screw with Luke and get maimed and like... what's the payoff for having to jump through this logical hoop again? Nothing at all?
The only random outside reference/cameo that isn't just there for the sake of being there is Bail Organa just randomly showing up for a couple lines of exposition, basically just saying "See, so that's why Leia sent a message to Obi-Wan!" but... OK that's really not a mystery that needed explaining, and also really not a character worth bringing back? He's just here to go "hey, remember the prequels? They officially happened!" but I mean... he isn't really a character in the prequels? In those he's ALSO a totally superfluous piece of glue? "Hey, so Leia must have been raised by SOMEONE on Alderaan right? Here, it's this guy!" So... all his appearances are just to remind you other movies exist and are being referenced. His name may as well be [citation].
I'd also be inclined to gripe about making the first major character in a Star Wars movie played by Chinese actor such a stereotypical blind kung-fu monk too, but the SECOND shows up like half a second later and he's as far from that as you can get. Plus I don't want to end on a gripe because, seriously, I liked the characters enough to make up for all of those gripes.
In particular, the aforementioned two characters are really great. Chirrut I appreciate the hell out of for the same reason I really like Maz- It enriches the setting to remind us that there is this whole actual religion behind the Jedi, and they're not just this secret order of magic space knights. Maz is really cool because she's clearly religious, with it having tangible effects on her life, but not being someone who ever like, trained with Yoda in a swamp or something, and Chirrut's cool because he's actually part of the clergy of that religion and still approaching it as a religion and not a means of learning telekinesis and acrobatics (although he's still pretty martial about it). I dig that in a general sense of, OK, Obi-Wan is a full on paladin, Chirrut is a cleric, Maz is just a rogue or wizard or whatever who stuck "The Force" down in the deity blank and is taking that seriously.
But then what I really love is Baze, because he's totally not a believer at all in any sort of pious sense, but... there's this whole character dynamic between these two where they're first properly introduced, with Baze just fully unloading his big @#$%ing full-auto laser machine-gun deal at everyone around Chirrut without hitting him, and this whole exchange about him doing reckless stuff like that because his faith will protect him and whether that's his faith in his religion or his faith in his big tough gun toting friend having his back. And it's nice and ambiguous as the movie goes on whether it's a case of which it is protecting him...
... but if you go back and watch the original movies, and in particular, A New Hope, that's... not really a distinction to be made there? Literally all the progress Luke makes in the original movie in understanding the force is getting it drilled into him that if you just kinda go with the flow and trust your feelings (particularly feelings of affection and concern for people you care about) the force will show you how to move to avoid getting shot and guide your aim when you shoot other stuff. So it's not unreasonable to assume that, basically, Baze is the hands down best marksman in all of Star Wars, despite his weapon of choice clearly not being designed with accuracy as a real concern (and firing it from the hip at that), thanks largely if not entirely to the power of love and friendship, which he'd totally deny and doesn't believe to exist. I dig the heck out of that. He really fills a niche a lot of established characters are on one side of or the other.
And again, it's really weird for this movie to simultaneously have that good a handle on the original movie's take on the force/such deft character establishment, while also thinking we need to talk about magic space rocks and such.
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To require each character to have an "endearing personal quirk" is TV Tropes-tier autism.
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Well, for one, you could look elsewhere in the trilogy -- particular in The Empire Strikes Back -- for Han Solo being alternatively "Hahn" and "Hann", sometimes from the same person (don't think dying this past week means I'm not looking at you, Carrie).Jake's Wall of Sperg said:
Someone as spergy as him not understanding that a sperg fantasy like a Star Wars spinoff needs shoutouts to things elsewhere in the franchise is just plain dumb.
I guess "nerd film critic" isn't the right hat for Jake either. Oh well, there are always toasters and bathtubs.
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Jake needs to just quit social media and crawl back into a Rankin Bass cartoon, where his kind belong.
Here's the thing. Either Jake's suicide is an upcoming thing and the authorities need to be notified or it's not. This is performative play acting from all the participants in this sickening twitter game. They know he isn't going to commit suicide. We know and hope that he isn't going to commit suicide. How long is he going to draw this out? By doing this he devalues suicide.
As @Cynical said, Zoe is trying to forget all about gamergate. She'll move on to her next big con. Jake is now the detritus of the rat-king, he's the flotsam and jetsam. The other guys involved in anti-gg at least have jobs and can support themselves. He clearly can't.
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So I still don't get it.
Where are the examples of him being painted as whatever he thinks people painted him as? Did this happen on Twitter? KiA? Were the accusations BACKCHANNELED to Zoe personally? When did it happen? Is it a possibility that it never happened at all and Jake just concocted it in his head to deal with the fact that Zoe won't pat him on the head (Or is it obvious that it never happened at all and I'm that far behind the curve on this one?)
Where are the examples of him being painted as whatever he thinks people painted him as? Did this happen on Twitter? KiA? Were the accusations BACKCHANNELED to Zoe personally? When did it happen? Is it a possibility that it never happened at all and Jake just concocted it in his head to deal with the fact that Zoe won't pat him on the head (Or is it obvious that it never happened at all and I'm that far behind the curve on this one?)
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Sorry for doing exactly what I intended to in order to make you think I might have actually killed myself for reals this time. (no one did) Also did I mention I have a FRIEND who talks to me for SEVEN hours unlike some one I won't name who won't even say TWO words to me even to save my very life.
I'd like to know to, it must have been mostly backchannel stuff. I thought it was over the CON leaks or some shit, but since I never kept up with GG shit idk. When did the chat logs get leaked?
I do know he started threatening to kill himself over Zoe not talking to him by April of this year, but it seems like it happened even before then. There was no public casting out of Jake or accusation that I'm aware of, though he claims all these call outs on twitter that he couldn't see happened in one post.
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All we really know is that he "defended" someone who isn't part of the CON clique when that person was "being attacked" by a source other than Gamergate. At least that is Jake's story.
Now there are any number of people who are disliked by the CON clique and Jake defending them might well make Zoe and co question Jake's loyalty and usefulness as a result. More likely, though, is that he'd just outlived his usefulness anyway and they were just looking for a "good" reason to distance themselves. Jake's stalker shit since then more than justifies Zoe's refusal to re-establish contact and/or listen to his explanations.
We could probably work it out by looking at who Jake was white-knighting at the time Zoe cut contact with him, but it hardly seems worth the effort.
Zoe stopped acknowledging Jake over a year ago. The CON chat leaks didn't happen until the second half of this year.
If Jake did kill himself, it would be performative suicide. He *wants* Zoe to be blamed for it and apparently he wants his mum to find him, unlike the people who leave notes telling others it's not their fault.
Someone chatting with Jake for 7 hours isn't going to end this, because it's all about manipulating Zoe into talking to him.
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Oh yeah, no one thinks Jake is gonna do it. I was thinking more along the lines of encouraging a nearly useless organization with an ostensible mission of preventing suicide to intervene in the antics of a completely useless human being whose trashing of his mother and continual whining sickens me. It would be interesting to see TLL handle this obvious transtrender wolf-crier. What will he do if people tasked with keeping him alive decided to pay attention to him.
And that's why I hope no one alerts his mother. Seeing him behave this way would break her heart. But it would be a glorious thing if Greta and her poorly trained operators took a whack at him. It would reflect poorly on them if they tired of him after being made aware of him and it would reflect poorly on them if they couldn't help him enough to get him to stop all this gesturing. It would be fun to watch.
And to her credit, Zoe had helped keep the lols coming in. She didn't block him - she just muted him. He didn't know for a while if she was ignoring him, and the thought that she did see him but chose not to interact made him even more lunatic. Ever since he realized he was muted and was told she would not accept any intercession brought us the bathtub self-assassin we have now. Well done, Zoe.
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If this giant Rip Van Winkle-kin decides to join the land of the merry nine pin bowlers for good, I sure hope he donates his body to science. Then we can study what 35 years of no manual labor whatsoever does to the body and brain.
Also, let it be noted that whilst one of the biggest *trannies* in the Norasphere is suffering this suicidal crisis, Grim Reaper Greta is nowhere to be found. As usual. But I guess like most vultures he only shows up once there is a fresh corpse to consume. I think come new year there will be a new feline chairman of TLL.
Also, let it be noted that whilst one of the biggest *trannies* in the Norasphere is suffering this suicidal crisis, Grim Reaper Greta is nowhere to be found. As usual. But I guess like most vultures he only shows up once there is a fresh corpse to consume. I think come new year there will be a new feline chairman of TLL.
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I've decided to start looking into the CON stuff and his writings regarding them and this post provides a small hint.
beautiful genuine authentic feminine goddess jake alley said:
This quote is regarding the CON leaks and how one person on Twitter accused of him, as an obvious joke, of having sex with a dog because he mentioned a dog in the leaks. So whatever happened apparently predates the CON leaks, I believe, because he was having this issue way before anything CON related happened. What that more "plausible thing" is though...still a mystery.
I think the fundamental retardation of Jake is that he doesn't understand the game that people on both sides of GamerGate were playing. The whole thing consisted of two sides who would yell at each other until one of them stepped over a line and did or said something that was ultimately harmless - but the other side would blow out of proportion so that it would be a "win" for their team. A great example is the "Brianna Wu made fun of an autistic child thing" - no one actualy gave a f u c k that the kid in the picture was autistic, they just knew it'd make her look bad, so they talked it up.
Jake didn't understand the "blow out of proportion" bit - he thinks that when someone calls GamerGate a terrorist organization that they actually believe it. He doesn't get that it's just part of a game that people were playing mostly for fun, and sometimes for profit. It wasn't particularly rare that someone didn't understand the game - you can see plenty of examples of mainstream media sources who took the bait, one way or the other - but for someone as deep in it to be in the CON inner-circle to honestly believe the histrionics of either GG or aGG is very unique. He thinks an actual and legitimate culture war went down, not just two groups of nerds passing time by making fun of the other nerds. In that way, he's sort of a victim.
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Somewhere in his endless flood of suicide baiting tweets - I *think* it was around the time Jake was asking for a trans activist to mediate - Jake mentioned something about people being told that he was the leader of a terrorist organisation. Given how loosely this lot define "terrorist organisation", that probably means someone said he supported a stance which his CON friends don't like - and this does kind of fit with the other stuff he's said.
But this all has to have happened last year. That's when Zoe ceased contact with him.
Prior to Gamergate, Jake was very much a part of the "gamer" community online. His internet footprint on gaming sites was huge. He did essentially walk away from the Googleshng persona, history and connections to become Zoe's attack dog. He's whined several times about how gaming editors will no longer speak to him, but it's hard to know whether that's related to his GG activities or just because Jake's style is no longer relevant a decade on.
He seems to believe that everyone has betrayed him, and that Zoe's is the biggest betrayal of all. He seems to view killing himself as some kind of retribution which will somehow punish his "betrayers".
He's not a reliable narrator, though. It's difficult to know what has a factual basis (however distorted by Jake) and what he's woven out of whole cloth.
But this all has to have happened last year. That's when Zoe ceased contact with him.
Prior to Gamergate, Jake was very much a part of the "gamer" community online. His internet footprint on gaming sites was huge. He did essentially walk away from the Googleshng persona, history and connections to become Zoe's attack dog. He's whined several times about how gaming editors will no longer speak to him, but it's hard to know whether that's related to his GG activities or just because Jake's style is no longer relevant a decade on.
He seems to believe that everyone has betrayed him, and that Zoe's is the biggest betrayal of all. He seems to view killing himself as some kind of retribution which will somehow punish his "betrayers".
He's not a reliable narrator, though. It's difficult to know what has a factual basis (however distorted by Jake) and what he's woven out of whole cloth.