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Any american semi auto shotguns that support mini shells without modification? Figured something like that may be nice to use for home defense but the Mossberg 590s seems like a fine option for pump too.
realistically no. mini shells fire at much lower pressure so you'd definitely get issues with cycling.
for what its worth, I have a 590s and its a great gun, thing runs like a tank.
I would say don’t get a shotgun and get a reliable semi auto rifle like an AR 15
shotguns are perfectly fine for home defense, its preference at that point.
 
A rifle is more effective and easier to use.
Sub 30 yards a shotgun will be way more destructive no argument. People survive rifles in 5.56 all the time, but a load of buck or large birdshot within 15 yards will blow a fucking massive hole into whoever is in your house. Criminal can't win or waste your time in court if he's stuck to your wall. 10 shells should hopefully be enough to finish the job as you probably don't have that many chances as well. If need be, retreat and get something better suited for the situation.
I'd say they're about the same for ease of use, and length/weight can be the same for any reasonable choice.
Sound is also a thing, I shoot shotguns on occasion without earpro, but only made that mistake once with an AR-15. Indoors idk, but the shotgun is probably less harmful. Penetration is important for HD stuff, which shotguns are generally considered to be safer for. On the consideration of safety, a standard semi or pump shotty will look better in court god forbid you're living in a shithole state, which chances are high if you're truly worried about home defense.
 
Sub 30 yards a shotgun will be way more destructive no argument. People survive rifles in 5.56 all the time, but a load of buck or large birdshot within 15 yards will blow a fucking massive hole into whoever is in your house. Criminal can't win or waste your time in court if he's stuck to your wall. 10 shells should hopefully be enough to finish the job as you probably don't have that many chances as well. If need be, retreat and get something better suited for the situation.
I'd say they're about the same for ease of use, and length/weight can be the same for any reasonable choice.
Sound is also a thing, I shoot shotguns on occasion without earpro, but only made that mistake once with an AR-15. Indoors idk, but the shotgun is probably less harmful. Penetration is important for HD stuff, which shotguns are generally considered to be safer for. On the consideration of safety, a standard semi or pump shotty will look better in court god forbid you're living in a shithole state, which chances are high if you're truly worried about home defense.
At the end of the day, pistols, ARs, and shotguns have advantages and disadvantages, but I just don't think they're large enough to justify saying "x is better than y." It is up to preference at that point.
what matters WAY more is how competent/comfortable you are with a given platform. if are more experienced with AR's, then use an AR. if you use shotguns more because you think they're more fun to use, use a shotgun for home defense instead.
trying to quantify which is "meta" like a video game is a waste of time, IMO.
 
what do you mean by "more effective"? rifles and shotguns both get the job done perfectly adequately.
A person will be able to engage more effectively due to reduced recoil of a semi auto rifle compared to a shotgun, especially a manually operated shotgun. Manually operated guns also run increased risk of user induced malfunctions. There are good reasons why sub machine guns replaced shotguns, and carbines replaced sub guns.
People survive rifles in 5.56 all the time, but a load of buck or large birdshot within 15 yards will blow a fucking massive hole into whoever is in your house
People survive getting shot by lots of stuff as long as you don’t hit anything vital. Bird shot is a bad idea if you want to cause a physical stop of an attacker. Well placed 00 buck can be devastating, but so can well placed hollow point rifle rounds.
 
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Sub 30 yards a shotgun will be way more destructive no argument. People survive rifles in 5.56 all the time, but a load of buck or large birdshot within 15 yards will blow a fucking massive hole into whoever is in your house. Criminal can't win or waste your time in court if he's stuck to your wall. 10 shells should hopefully be enough to finish the job as you probably don't have that many chances as well. If need be, retreat and get something better suited for the situation.
I'd say they're about the same for ease of use, and length/weight can be the same for any reasonable choice.
Sound is also a thing, I shoot shotguns on occasion without earpro, but only made that mistake once with an AR-15. Indoors idk, but the shotgun is probably less harmful. Penetration is important for HD stuff, which shotguns are generally considered to be safer for. On the consideration of safety, a standard semi or pump shotty will look better in court god forbid you're living in a shithole state, which chances are high if you're truly worried about home defense.

At the end of the day, pistols, ARs, and shotguns have advantages and disadvantages, but I just don't think they're large enough to justify saying "x is better than y." It is up to preference at that point.
what matters WAY more is how competent/comfortable you are with a given platform. if are more experienced with AR's, then use an AR. if you use shotguns more because you think they're more fun to use, use a shotgun for home defense instead.
trying to quantify which is "meta" like a video game is a waste of time, IMO.

A person will be able to engage more effectively due to reduced recoil of a semi auto rifle compared to a shotgun, especially a manually operated shotgun. Manually operated guns also run increased risk of user induced malfunctions. There are good reasons why sub machine guns replaced shotguns, and carbines replaced sub guns.

People survive getting shot by lots of stuff as long as you don’t hit anything vital. Bird shot is a bad idea if you want to cause a physical stop of an attacker. Well placed 00 buck can be devastating, but so can well placed hollow point rifle rounds.
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Any american semi auto shotguns that support mini shells without modification? Figured something like that may be nice to use for home defense but the Mossberg 590s seems like a fine option for pump too.
short answer: no

long answer: there aren't any made by anyone from any country that work out of the box. the closest is an inertia system or an adapted saiga or something with extensive feed modifications.
 
Until the USP, most pistols in .40 Smith and Wesson were just a punched out version of a 9mm pistol. The USP was designed around the .40, which is why they're such tanks.
Ah I see. Cool. Still want a M&P 2.0 in 40, but that is neat to know about the USP. Maybe when I have more money, I can make that a thing.

A person will be able to engage more effectively due to reduced recoil of a semi auto rifle compared to a shotgun, especially a manually operated shotgun. Manually operated guns also run increased risk of user induced malfunctions. There are good reasons why sub machine guns replaced shotguns, and carbines replaced sub guns
It's why I chose to get a SKS over a shotgun way back when. Now I do need a shotty to complete my collection still, but on the semi auto rifle point, there's way less recoil and more accuracy in a rifle than in a shotgun. That's just a fact. And follow up shots are easy as pie.
 
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Just about any Sig P320 can be fucked by pure chance through manufacturing defects that could have been accounted for if the FCU wasn't outsourced to retards.

At least "Glock Leg" wasn't due to pistols failing due to faulty parts, just inattention and bad training.

I hope the Sig fanboys never live this down. As much as I want one of those cool Roni chassis, I guess I can never trust the P320 not to just "pop" on its own. I personally like how all the shitty parts shifting around also manages to defeat whatever Sig uses for a striker block/firing pin safety, too.

These are also going bang WITH THE SAFETY ON. Us gun autists STILL meme on the SPAS 12 for going *bang* when you hit the safety, and those were recalled and fixed before The Ukraine became a country.

I barely trust the poos to make food that won't make me sick, why would I trust them with GUN parts? Bear in mind, this country couldn't even make a functional AK copy for its own military.
 
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