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[Bonesjones]

I mean Ford was woke to the JQ and so they punished his noticing (and desire to actually make things better for his workforce) with a court ruling that corporations are breaking the heckin law if they dont put shareholder stonks above all else, courtesy of the shabbos Dodge bros

Nothing to do with jews at all, nope. That's just a coincidence.

Not actually what happened Dodge v Ford basically says that you can't go out of your way to fuck over a specific investor ie state that's why your doing some action other than that it grants wide latitude to companies to do more or less what ever they please and is only binding precedent in Michigan.

So the Dodge brothers were mad that Ford wasn't using the extra cash Ford Motors had. They wanted the money to fund their own motor car company, and Ford wanted to invest in his own company instead. Somehow a judge decided that it makes more sense to pay minority investors extra. Jews were definitely not involved in this.

Great video by Mileage Mike. Although it's mainly about express lanes on the Georgia 400, he destroys the mass transit people on way trains won't work in the Atlanta area.

Trains don't work because MARTA is a shithole, all the stations are gross and crowded with homeless. The head of it killed himself with his own train.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Literally only Austin and one border county were deep blue. 3/4 of the counties that make up the Dallas-Fort Worth metro area were red:

Reminds me of something—guess which areas have the widest freeways, wide roads, the most road infrastructure, muh stroooooooooods? Blue counties and blue-leaning areas. The Cincinnati photo? Blue county since 2008. Houston? Blue county for a while (and certainly the city itself). Los Angeles? Blue. Dallas? Blue.

In fact, the only reason why the whole bike lane revolt is happening is that liberals tend to vote the way of "other people" (won't happen to them, etc.) and the reason why the face-eating leopards meme exists. Destroying streets is one of the few leopards that they actually see.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

They have a few orders of magnitudes off - both on the density needed to make it “worthwhile” and the costs associated.

If it worked the way they imply, cities and counties would implement transit on their own (which they do for busses sometimes). But it’s BILLIONS and they can’t muster the cash without special taxes or federal funding (which is just the same thing indirectly).

 

[ᚠᚢᚦᚩᚱᚳ]

My most recent suburban encounter was with a boomer lady asking me to vote for her son as the Ward X outreach minister for ethically sourcing Cambodian woven baskets or something. It was legitimately wholesome.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

They have a few orders of magnitudes off - both on the density needed to make it “worthwhile” and the costs associated.

If it worked the way they imply, cities and counties would implement transit on their own (which they do for busses sometimes). But it’s BILLIONS and they can’t muster the cash without special taxes or federal funding (which is just the same thing indirectly).

I'm not sure who you're replying to but complaining about how Trump will "kill transit" undermines their arguments about "cities subsidize everyone else", they need the general taxpayer dollar for their projects. It's the same thing with transit zones like the MTA. They get the suburbs to contribute while giving them nothing but a P&R, but expect full taxes and contribution anyway, and then when they get seats on the board they complain about how they're "holding them back".

Pointing this out shuts down the argument because they're put in the position of simply demanding that the suburbs pay up without representation (which harms their "suburbs are subsidized" argument) or that suburbs should drop out of the program all together (which destroys their source of funding).

 

[Yamamura]

The guy complaining about a "car dealership owner" winning a senate seat (I can't tell if it's state or national elections) as if it were a protected class and it was in 1972 ("I can't believe a woman/Negro/Mexican is this close to winning a Senate seat!")

So basically what they're saying is prior to being elected into office you can't have had any jobs prior to that. "Well looks like I can't run for office or else people might suspect I'm going to lobby for the McDonald's I worked at as a teen"

Conservatives will support urbanism is we call "bike lanes" "freedom lanes":

Unsurprisingly, an anti-gun activist is also an urbanist:

Will lefties support guns if we call them "diversity arms" instead of firearms?

These are the same people who claim they like the idea of democracy.

They like democracy in the same way they like "science" which is to say they don't. They just want it to confirm the world views they already have. If they show the contrary they just get incredibly annoyed or ignore it.

 

[Walrus and Carpenter 2.0]

Nothing to do with jews at all, nope. That's just a coincidence.

All hexagrams are Stars of David. What a maroon.

 

[Meriasek]

- Talking about Project 2025 (who's a "low information voter" again?) which was all media hype and something NEVER talked about or promised by Trump

That one is one of the most annoying media hypes. A German newspaper was all "Think Trump won't be bad? Here's what he planned for the first half year", and then the article talked about Project 2025, even mentioning that Trump didn't write anything of it and how it's not official policy, but since the writers of Project 2025 are somehow affiliated with the GOP, it's totally going to happen and must be treated as gospel.

No one is leaving California/New York/Illinois because they doesn't have enough transit or pods. People leave them because they want a house or because they hate the local government's insanity.

The big cities are practically unlivable. Rent is unaffordable to most unless they get very lucky and catch some old rental contract, and with remote work there just isn't enough incentive for most people to actually bear living in them.
Some people like living in the big city just for the sake of it. I can understand that, but just as many or more people would prefer not to live in a metropole if they can avoid it. People still want to have kids, and they absolutely prefer to have kids in single family homes away from the big city because they want quiet and space.
And most importantly, the thing Urbafags try to ignore or downplay as much as possible, the big city centers are, frankly, full of degenerates. No amount of walkability and traffic calming and cheaper housing is going to fix that, and no amount of "eyes on the street" is going to make some crackhead care more when he whips out his dick on the subway to piss on your groceries.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Some people like living in the big city just for the sake of it. I can understand that, but just as many or more people would prefer not to live in a metropole if they can avoid it. People still want to have kids, and they absolutely prefer to have kids in single family homes away from the big city because they want quiet and space.

There's a "missing middle" as they like to call it - the old "single family inner city" (think the NY brownstones, or the San Francisco row houses on the hill) which was imitated everywhere - basically the "old suburbs" when there weren't many cars around at all. Those are what people think of when they think "living in the city" as a desirable option - the house that Mrs. Doubtfire worked in.

The inner city still has those buildings in many cases, but it's no longer livable for people who have an option.

 

[Meriasek]

There's a "missing middle" as they like to call it - the old "single family inner city" (think the NY brownstones, or the San Francisco row houses on the hill) which was imitated everywhere - basically the "old suburbs" when there weren't many cars around at all. Those are what people think of when they think "living in the city" as a desirable option - the house that Mrs. Doubtfire worked in.

The inner city still has those buildings in many cases, but it's no longer livable for people who have an option.

The urbanists hate these kind of buildings in cities and would like to convert them all into microapartments and co-living spaces.

 

[quaawaa]

The urbanists hate these kind of buildings in cities and would like to convert them all into microapartments and co-living spaces.

You’re correct. Urbanists love areas like Boston and NYC where most of the row houses have been converted to apartments but they hate San Francisco (which hasn’t done that everywhere yet thanks to the wealth of the area and the relative recentness of its population boom) despite the construction density being extremely similar.

 

[Meriasek]

You’re correct. Urbanists love areas like Boston and NYC where most of the row houses have been converted to apartments but they hate San Francisco (which hasn’t done that everywhere yet thanks to the wealth of the area and the relative recentness of its population boom) despite the construction density being extremely similar.

The urbanist dream apartment.
This concept was supposed to cost 100 bucks a month, which tbh is a great idea for cities and students and such.

 

[An Sionnach Seang]

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The urbanist dream apartment.
This concept was supposed to cost 100 bucks a month, which tbh is a great idea for cities and students and such.

there is no fucking way you can fit four people in there
four midgets, maybe

 

[Meriasek]

there is no fucking way you can fit four people in there
four midgets, maybe

I think it's more to show the things you can do, only one is living there.

 

[BulkForceFive]

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The urbanist dream apartment.
This concept was supposed to cost 100 bucks a month, which tbh is a great idea for cities and students and such.

I assume it has a lifting point on the top to allow it to be carried away once the urbanist is inside? Sort of like a giant raccoon trap.

 

[An Sionnach Seang]

I think it's more to show the things you can do, only one is living there.

don't be too sure - the diagram shows four people, and as you say, it's an urbanist's dream apartment; it's a tiny space you can cram other people into
also, I noticed the maximum headroom of the shower is 190 cm (6'2") and the headroom of the upper deck is 160 cm (5'3"), so I guess anyone in the Netherlands or Nordic countries who gets crammed into one of these things can get sciatica or go fuck themselves

something I realised when writing this was that Genesis predicted this kind of dystopian future in "Get 'Em Out By Friday", back in 1972 (relevant section starts at 6:05, after a long instrumental section, and implied to be far in the future)

Spoiler

This is an announcement from Genetic Control
It is my sad duty to inform you of a four foot restriction on
Humanoid height

I hear the directors of Genetic Control have been buying all the
Properties that have recently been sold, taking risks oh so bold
It's said now that people will be shorter in height
They can fit twice as many in the same building site
They say it's alright
Beginning with the tenants of the town of Harlow
In the interest of humanity, they've been told they must go
Told they must go-go-go-go

 

[Eternal Gopnik]

I agree it's probably meant for a single person, that's just how some architects draw things, I've seen it before.

There's a lot of things crazy about the plans, someone already mentioned the super low ceiling on the upper level. There's also one tiny cupboard that looks like it fits about 4 pairs of shoes to store your belongings, while the upper level has a massive desk and bookshelf like it's some kind of a tiny version of a Manhattan CEO's corner office. The kitchen is basically useless but it still takes a shitload of space - might as well just replace it with an electric kettle and tell the pod slave to eat ramen for every meal. The "sleep" space appears to be a futon that you'd have to unfold every night, which is fucking shit, I know that from experience, noone will be making and unmaking their bed twice a day for more than three days. There's no room to store bedsheets and pillows. The main door is enormous and appears to be fully glass; even if it's frosted glass, it will have no sound deadening properties, you'll hear every fart someone makes in the hallway, and since this is meant to be a 100 EUR (per month, presumably) apartment, there's going to be a lot of noise in the hallways from blackout drunk students and/or illegals beating the shit out of their child wives. The only sources of lighting in the entire apartment appear to be one lamp on the upper level and one noose-looking thing mounted on the wall next to the door.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

There's a "missing middle" as they like to call it - the old "single family inner city" (think the NY brownstones, or the San Francisco row houses on the hill) which was imitated everywhere - basically the "old suburbs" when there weren't many cars around at all. Those are what people think of when they think "living in the city" as a desirable option - the house that Mrs. Doubtfire worked in.

The inner city still has those buildings in many cases, but it's no longer livable for people who have an option.

Remember, when they talk about "missing middle", they're really wanting more apartments/n-plexes in the suburbs.

First off, they do exist, I attached what they actually look like especially when it's a one-and-done project with minimal maintenance through the decades, there's the issues of apartment complexes in the suburbs (which do exist and urbanists usually ignore because it doesn't work with their arguments).

Second off, they don't EVER talk about how urban areas need more missing middle housing. To them, something like this which is found in Houston in abundance...little 3-4 story townhomes with a tiny yard and garage...is practically heresy. They don't want this in the "city", they want that in single-family home neighborhoods. They probably don't like the fact that all of these townhomes have garages too...

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

At 100 sq ft per person, you'd do something like quintuple the density of fucking New York City. That's like twice the density of the Kowloon Walled City.

It's actually batshit. It's insane. It's less square footage than some semi truck's sleeper cabs.

 

[Meriasek]

That whole 100 euro apartment thing was part of a whole concept by some architect group, nothing ever came from it. Basically they had some concept for redesigning old buildings with large rooms into multi-tenant spaces.

It's not just those tiny apartments, they also have ideas for larger ones.