Canada is a failed state

What Diagolon guy turned out to be a pedo? Or do you mean a guy from his life before?
I thought the Diagolon guy was just some random z-celeb politics streamer, and Diagolon was just to sell shitty patches and stickers?
The PR target includes applications from people who are already in Canada on work permits etc. So there's a hopeful chance the total number of people in the country decreases, as the slots for PR are now 25% more competitive. This would mean the TFWs whos permits expire hopefully go home (lol)
Does fuck all for the illegal immigration though. It's not like we have any mechanisms to do deportations either. They just cry, piss and shit and get put up in hotels on our tax dollars.
Still stinks too.
It stunk 20 years ago too, but that was more random junkies and homeless pissing everywhere.
 
I'm ready to punch the wall myself. Get ready for the tsunami of migrants at our borders. If you think 2017 was bad it was only a little taste of what's coming for us. America is going to be sending their garbage our way or it will come in droves voluntarily. Most of this thread is full of the horrors of immigration but the nightmare is about to get far worse.
I think/hope the Liberals realise that the immigration surge to Canada has been deeply unpopular, so I think they will be keeping a very close eye on what happens with the US now that Trump is in, otherwise they will get shafted in 2025.

PS. I expect that the migrants from Canada who are already planning to enter the US illegally will be doing so in droves before January, in the hope that if they get deported it will be just back to Canada.

Does fuck all for the illegal immigration though. It's not like we have any mechanisms to do deportations either. They just cry, piss and shit and get put up in hotels on our tax dollars.
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I think/hope the Liberals realise that the immigration surge to Canada has been deeply unpopular, so I think they will be keeping a very close eye on what happens with the US now that Trump is in, otherwise they will get shafted in 2025.

PS. I expect that the migrants from Canada who are already planning to enter the US illegally will be doing so in droves before January, in the hope that if they get deported it will be just back to Canada.

Days after Trump was installed in January 2017 the phenomenon of migrants crossing in large numbers into our country began. Remember the CTV News crews filming it. No one could believe this shit.

I just see it being much worse this time. And the Liberals will once again do nothing to stop it or our media will simply just not talk about it at all. We are so fucked.
 
Days after Trump was installed in January 2017 the phenomenon of migrants crossing in large numbers into our country began. Remember the CTV News crews filming it. No one could believe this shit.

I just see it being much worse this time. And the Liberals will once again do nothing to stop it or our media will simply just not talk about it at all. We are so fucked.
The good news about Trump wanting to staple Greencards to Diplomas is that the Pajeets might fuck off out of Canada (Khalistan) to America.
 
:optimistic: Time to start huffing copium:optimistic: now that Trump has won, :optimistic: I just wish that canada would implode already but clearly we need more time in the microwave before the pop finally happens. Trump winning has definitely pushed that clock forward towards Canada's demise and I'm all for it.

Was also talking to my significant other about firewater natives not caring about Indians taking their coveted community spots for trying to teach people about their mud religion instead of the imported one, conclusion we came to was it isnt affecting them yet but once it hits their pockets or the reserves and "goverment" they may start flinging shit just like the rest of us.
 
How do you think so? I can think of a myriad of reasons, but I'm curious what yours are.
We have to wait until next year till the election starts here, that's more than enough time for the domino's to continue to fall in Trudeaus favour, he can still fuck things up while in office and having that be under the pressure of dozens of people supporting Donald trump even in canada might cause him to double down even harder than before, he had zero shame holding bank accounts hostage for peaceful protesters so it's not out of the realm of possibility, including the fact I read some news about the rcmp being worried about the election and wanting to do more online policing just sounds like a future recipe for disaster. I could just be dumb though lol.
 
We have to wait until next year till the election starts here, that's more than enough time for the domino's to continue to fall in Trudeaus favour, he can still fuck things up while in office and having that be under the pressure of dozens of people supporting Donald trump even in canada might cause him to double down even harder than before, he had zero shame holding bank accounts hostage for peaceful protesters so it's not out of the realm of possibility, including the fact I read some news about the rcmp being worried about the election and wanting to do more online policing just sounds like a future recipe for disaster. I could just be dumb though lol.
I agree, most of his impact would be psychological. I see a lot of people (mostly old, affluent, and female) irl who seriously think burger policy rhetoric around shit like abortion would actually have a more direct impact on things up here. Trying to have a useful conversation with these people—even just to learn more about their batshit beliefs—is not only like pulling teeth, but pulling the same few teeth on an endless loop. An unceasing onslaught of whataboutism, but with already addressed points.

These people are seriously fucking crazy. So yes, as a matter of fact he will change things, but it's these deranged retards who are going to bring about and accelerate such change.
 
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Speaking of Burger Politics - my only fear with a Trump Presidency up here in Leafistan is that it'll convince people (read: retards) to vote Trudy back in solely to spite the Americans.

The fact it sounds retarded, but I can't write it off, is one of the many, many reasons I hate this frozen hellhole LARPing as a country...
 
Speaking of Burger Politics - my only fear with a Trump Presidency up here in Leafistan is that it'll convince people (read: retards) to vote Trudy back in solely to spite the Americans.

The fact it sounds retarded, but I can't write it off, is one of the many, many reasons I hate this frozen hellhole LARPing as a country...
How little most Canadians not the average, MOST Canadians know about any form of politics is so low you can't even fathom it.

For most people it's so surface level they think the only meaningful difference between Trudeau, Pollievere, Singh, Blanchet and Bernier are literally that they have different names and colors and they are barely even wrong about that assessment.

To most people insane amount of homelessness and unwashed immigrants touching all our food is paradise and they wouldn't change it if you stuck a gun in their mouth.
 
The fact it sounds retarded, but I can't write it off, is one of the many, many reasons I hate this frozen hellhole LARPing as a country...
Precisely because it sounds retarded, it has a 100% chance of occurring. This is how I set expectations in Clown World.
How little most Canadians not the average, MOST Canadians know about any form of politics is so low you can't even fathom it.

For most people it's so surface level they think the only meaningful difference between Trudeau, Pollievere, Singh, Blanchet and Bernier are literally that they have different names and colors and they are barely even wrong about that assessment.

To most people insane amount of homelessness and unwashed immigrants touching all our food is paradise and they wouldn't change it if you stuck a gun in their mouth.
It's not that they don't or can't know, it's more like:
I agree, most of his impact would be psychological. I see a lot of people (mostly old, affluent, and female) irl who seriously think burger policy rhetoric around shit like abortion would actually have a more direct impact on things up here. Trying to have a useful conversation with these people—even just to learn more about their batshit beliefs—is not only like pulling teeth, but pulling the same few teeth on an endless loop. An unceasing onslaught of whataboutism, but with already addressed points.

These people are seriously fucking crazy. So yes, as a matter of fact he will change things, but it's these deranged retards who are going to bring about and accelerate such change.
They don't want to know. Canada is a nation in denial, and the cost of denial (living) is going up and up.
 
That'll be hilarious. What a waste of taxpayer's money.

"How do you do, fellow convoyers? I, too, do not like those who 'Poop in the loo'. What white nationalist crimes are we doing tonight?"

Dumbass RCMP is gonna end up like the stupid fucking German cop who handcuffed the stabbing victim while the actual terrorist ran up behind and shanked him.
 
Speaking of Burger Politics - my only fear with a Trump Presidency up here in Leafistan is that it'll convince people (read: retards) to vote Trudy back in solely to spite the Americans.

The fact it sounds retarded, but I can't write it off, is one of the many, many reasons I hate this frozen hellhole LARPing as a country...
Isn't that guaranteed to happen? It looks like everywhere in the western world it's just been decade after decade of voting left to own the Americans.
 
Speaking of Burger Politics - my only fear with a Trump Presidency up here in Leafistan is that it'll convince people (read: retards) to vote Trudy back in solely to spite the Americans.

The fact it sounds retarded, but I can't write it off, is one of the many, many reasons I hate this frozen hellhole LARPing as a country...
Trudeau will probably be prime minister for life. Despite being a complete retard he's somehow unbeatable in elections.
 
Trudeau will probably be prime minister for life. Despite being a complete retard he's somehow unbeatable in elections.
He lost his majority in 2019 and failed to regain it in 2021, hence why he entered into a supply and confidence agreement with the NDP. I doubt that the Liberal Party will ever gain a majority in the House of Commons with him at the helm as he is a known quantity with Canadians. Similarly, Trudeau is a narcissistic ideologue who has demonstrated complete inflexibility when it comes to policy so he is never going to change course. Oh, he'll react when public sentiment shifts, but it's always be a half-hearted effort that doesn't even begin to address the issue (e.g. immigration).

One of the reasons why the Conservatives lost was because leaders like Sheer and O'Toole were too timid. They believed that institutions like the legacy media would reciprocate if they "played nice'. That did not happen and now Poilievre takes a more confrontational stance because let's face, civility is truly just being a bitch in sheep's clothing. The CPC now beats the LPC in fundraising by a margin of 3 to 1 and the Libs failed to go on the offensive when the Tories voted in Poilievre as leader so he's the one with momentum while his opponents are the ones constantly on the back foot.

Politics is akin to a pendulum. Canada has largely been Liberal-ruled with PC/CPC interregnums so it looks like might be looking at a reversal because the Libs can't even win seats in safe ridings anymore. Hell, we might be looking at a complete realignment because heaven knows that this country needs something to shake up the calcified Laurentian order. Progressivism in Canada is really new-liberalism wearing a skin suit.
 
Leaf kiwis, can I get a quick rundown on Stephen Harper? How do you from that to liberal domination under Trudeau Jr.?

Canadians don't tend to vote federal parties & leaders IN, they tend to vote them OUT.

Despite Canadians feeling superior to Americans that they aren't a "two-party system", only two parties in reality have ever formed government since 1867. So they really just trade back&forth every decade or so.

Trudeau's father Pierre was PM for a few terms in the 70s and early 80s for the Liberals. He was a literal commie and was the biggest "rock star" leader Canada ever had, hanging out with Fidel Castro and Hollywood elites. He was really the first leader to run up the debt and tried to nationalize Alberta oil resources, killing the Liberal brand in the prairie provinces for generations. Future PM Jean Chretien was his Indian Affairs minister.

When the country got tired of Trudeau Sr BS, they put the Progressive Conservatives & Brian Mulroney in power for the Reagan/Bush Sr era. Mulroney was an anglophone Irish Quebecker. Mulroney & the PCs were pro-business and generally socially progressive as far as conservatives go. After two terms, Mulroney resigned because the country was going to lynch him after two failed attempts to open the constitution, a new federal sales tax, massive debt lowering the nation's credit rating and a NAFTA agreement that hollowed out manufacturing.

The PC party put in their own Kamala Harris, Kim Campbell, a BC woman to run for PM and get trounced at the polls. The party lost all but 2 seats in 1993, losing to Jean Chretien's revived Liberal party who won a majority. It was a narrative that Campbell & the PCs lost because they ran an attack ad mocking Chretien's crooked mouth from childhood polio.

Chretien would come to power in 1993 under an awful Greece-like credit crunch. Chretien was the francophone half to his anglophone Quebecker Finance Minister Paul Martin, a shipping magnate.

They both get credit for fixing the country's finances over the next decade by downloading costs & programs to the provinces, canceling military hardware purchases and raising taxes. They also narrowly won a referendum in 1995 by only a few percentage points where Quebec tried to separate.

Meanwhile, the PC party with two out of 300 seats annihilated itself. It's
Quebec wing broke off over the failed constitutional accords, forming the provincial separatist party, the Bloc Quebecois, that would form the Official Opposition in 1993 as the second place party.

Similarly, the Western Canadian wing of the PC party would break away as well over alienation from Trudeau Sr's stealing of oil wealth and tiring of being ruled from afar by Laurentian old money Central Canada elites. Preston Manning, a caricature, almost American-style boomer with a nasally voice would lead them for the next decade. The new Reform Party would eat up all the old right-leaning Prairie ridings West of the Manitoba border.

The old PC party would survive another decade but was largely irrelevant with Chretien's Liberal majorities.

With the prairie-based & more socially & fiscally conservative Reform party unable to break through in vote-rich Ontario & Quebec, the Reform party swallowed up the old PC party, eventually forming the current day Conservative Party of Canada with Stephen Harper as leader.

Chretien & Martin's Liberal government by the early aughts was embroiled in corruption scandals where they were found out embezzling money in Quebec under the guise of fighting separatism. Chretien would step down and leave Martin to be party leader, leaving him to wear the decade of scandals & fatigue.

The newly formed national Conservative party under Harper would come to power in the mid aughts defeating Martin. Harper, a Toronto-born but Alberta-posing Conservative would lead the country until 2015.

He was credited for keeping Canadian banking regulations in place during the 2008 subprime mortgage crisis that didn't impact the country much.

In general, Harper was a shrewd campaigner, fiscally conservative but fairly socially moderate at the time. He defeated 3 Liberal leaders - Paul Martin, Stephane Dion (climate nerd) & Michael Ignatieff (Harvard carpetbagger).

Harper was also often saddled with a minority government, so he was at constant risk of having his government fall with every bill & vote. He ruled for so long with his prowess in intimidating his opponents into not calling for new elections by pointing out their parties were broke, that Canadians would punish frivolous elections, by poison-pilling votes, etc.

Otherwise, Harper was pretty uncharismatic and boring. He did a lot of retail politics like shaving 2 po
off the national sales tax, catering a lot to specific ethnic voting blocs, complicating the tax code with boutique tax credits, etc.

The Liberal party was pretty decimated in the mid-aughts after Chretien & Martin. They slipped out of second place when Ignatieff lost around 2011 and the socialist NDP party under Jack Layton somehow swept the majority of Quebec's 75 seats, including paper candidates and an English-speaking waitress who went to Vegas for the campaign & won a French-only district she had never visited.

Eventually after 3 consecutive losses to the Conservatives, the Liberals elected Justin Trudeau as leader, who was a relatively unknown MP from Montreal besides his name. The Liberals were still widely seen as the fledgling 3rd party at the time with the NDP still being the 2nd place party under Tom Mulcair after popular Jack Layton died of cancer.

By this time, the Harper government had been in power for a decade. They had accrued a few scandals of their own such as Minister Bev Oda expensing a $15 OJ and a few election integrity where Harper's MPs were caught doing voter suppression by hiring third party robocall agencies.

In 2015, Trudeau ran mostly on a platform of legalizing weed & electoral reform, promising to immediately do away with the First Past The Post system for some sort of proportional representation.

Trudeau's victory in 2015 came somewhat as a surprise. Harper's party seemed like old, boring white men who had been around too long. Trudeau did eventually legalize weed, but the whole thing was a predictable government shitshow. He immediately reneged on any electoral reform deciding "it's not the right time for Canadians" after declaring that 2015 would be the "last FPTP election".

Harper mostly disappeared from public life. He eventually got some WEF job for some African thinktank iirc.

The Conservatives would similarly spend the next decade in the wilderness electing feckless, milquetoast leaders - first Andrew Scheer, Harper's old House of Commons speaker, who never had a real job and was criticized for hiding American citizenship. Scheer's leadership win also created the rival libertarian People's Party of Canada after he defeated Maxime Bernier in the race with help from the dairy lobby wanting to keep Canada's closed, supply management dairy market in place. Bernier, another former Harper Industry and Foreign Affairs Minister who infamously left national security documents at his biker gf's place, would leave the party to create the one-man purple PPC libertarian party that leans the furthest right today but has no seats and polls around 2-5%.

Then the Conservatives put in place Erin O'Toole, a former military SAR helicopter vet & lawyer who is younger than Trudeau but somehow looks like he could be his grandpa. O'Toole presided over the pandemic and was a Trudeau clone. He was in lockstep with all Trudeau's COVID shenanigans with hardly any opposition or difference in policy. O'Toole's party was pro-jab, pro-lockdown, pro-mandates, etc.

Trudeau, having won a second majority against weak Andrew Scheer in 2019, called an opportunistic snap election in fall 2021 while still doing full COVID tyranny and theatre. He hoped to extend his majority by another 2 years while polls were favourable after all the COVID gibs and before crushing inflation hit.

Trudeau would be partially punished, being reduced to a minority even with a weak O'Toole not offering a strong alternative and doing cringe photops wearing high heels. The socialist NDP also wasn't popular under new leader Jagmeet Singh, a champagne socialist Sikh who spouts disingenuous woke talking points with a turban, an Armani suit and a Rolex.

A few months later in late Jan 2022, hundreds of truckers from across the country camp out in front of Parliament to protest a new edict from Biden closing the border to unjabbed truckers, feeling Trudeau is complicit. The event goes viral, with many Canadians fed up with two years of COVID BS. Other normie boomers and commies, along with the MSM and politicians, label them all as Nazis and fascists.

The truckers are very popular with the right-wing, but stodgy, moderate, risk averse Erin O' Toole refuses to let his party members offer public support. As the protest drags on, his own party stages a mutiny, oosting O'Toole in an emergency leadership review. Candace Bergen becomes interim leader and Pierre Poilievre announces his intention to run.

Trudeau crushes the trucker protest with military force soon thereafter, though the freed Conservatives still only offer middling public support to the blue collar workers.

Poilievre campaigns all summer and eventually wins a resounding victory in September at the convention. He barely acknowledges the trucker protest that gave him his opportunity. He's out campaigning the day it gets crushed and his social media is silent.

Putin invades Ukraine shortly after the trucker protest is broken up, becoming the next Current Thing. Both Trudeau & Poilievre argue about who loves Zelensky more.

Trudeau signs a Confidence&Supply agreement with the socialist NDP Sikh Jagmeet Singh in Sping 2022 to rubberstamp every bill he tables until Oct 2025 in exchange for some funding for birth control and some dental coverage for 90 y/os.


Trudeau eventually lifts most of the remaining unpopular COVID travel and workplace mandate restrictions by Summer 2022 & Biden eventually opens the border to the unclean.

Inflation hits and goes crazy, spiking food prices, rents and housing. Trudeau ramps up the post-pandemic mass Indian migration numbers to 1-2 million a year, worsening rents and cost of living. Every gas station, convenience store, fast food & retail job is overnight filled with annoying, smelly pajeets who Trudeau is subsidizing 50-70% of their wage with tax dollars.

Even remote Canadian towns are flooded with Indians similar to Springfield, OH with Haitians.

Trudeau and his insane Environmental Minister Steven Guilbeault continued to hike up the carbon tax on fuel and everything despite inflation being out of control.

Canadians eventually get sick of the high CoL, Trudeau's woke virtue signaling & millions of new smelly Indians everywhere stealing jobs from their children.

Poilievre is running 10-20 points consistently above Trudeau for the last year. Poilievre is playing it safe, blabbering about cutting taxes, building more homes & "removing the gatekeepers". But he's constantly pandering to Indian groups and wouldn't mention controversial things like mass immigration or gender-affirming care whatsoever publicly.

The next election isn't until Oct 2025 because champagne socialist Sikh Jagmeet Singh keeps rubberstamping all Trudeau's bills and won't take the unpopular government down because he doesn't qualify for his 2 million+ pension until Feb 2025.
 
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