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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Mound Dweller said:
The speaking in tongues looks fun and the snake petting is cool I can see definitely see the appeal, muh spiritual gifts is a bit too Harry Potter grifty for me though especially when the prosperity gospel stuff comes up, but at least you guys actually believe in something. The memories that stick with me about being dragged to church services always include how obviously nobody actually wanted to be there.
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I give the speaking in tongues a miss, might be due to me joining later in life but can't help but think if sound like a nutter. But the nice thing is I might be the only one praying in silence at times but no one thinks anything of it, as far as everyone concerned you do what feels right for yourself, nothings forced on you. As for snakes I think that's just a crazy USA thing, I've never seen or even heard of it going on over here.

Yeah I got plenty of those memories myself, as I mentioned I hated all the pointless traditions and the divide their feels between the vicar and the church members. There's none of that with any of the Pentecostal preachers I've met, no ones above anyone else.
 
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EddyRooney said:
I don't know how he lives with himself frankly. Imagine having to look yourself in the mirror every day knowing you were responsible for allowing the abuse of children. The Archbishop of Nonce Sympathy should arrange an appointment to meet his God as soon as possible.
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It always the same pathetic excuse "Think of the scandal!". Imagine what people think if they find out you covered it up instead! How righteous and moral would the Church be if they publicly and loudly held an Inquisition-style conclave where they just excoriate and completely condemn these freaks and hand them over to the police after stripping them of their habits. People would think they would be amazing ffs!
 
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'I'm a British Jewish man who was attacked by anti-Jewish gang in Amsterdam as I tried to help Israeli football fans. They were looking for Jews'

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A British-Jewish man was left with blood streaming down his face after he helped an Israeli football fan being attacked by an anti-Jewish gang in Amsterdam on Thursday evening.

Chillingly, the 33-year-old from Hendon, north London, known only as Aaron, recalled how the thugs were 'not looking for Israelis - they were looking for Jews' in shocking 'anti-Semitic' scenes that followed a Europa FC match between Maccabi Tel Aviv and AFC Ajax.
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Surely the religion of peace couldn't be behind such violence...


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Dutch admit they failed Jewish community after attacks by 'migrant mobs' on Israeli football fans
 


Later in the night, video circulated of masked attackers, some reportedly speaking Arabic, chasing down Israeli fans in the city.
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Ten people were injured in the violence, Israeli officials said, with the Times of Israel and other outlets in the country reporting that the attacks were largely perpetrated by Amsterdam locals of Arabic origin.
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What a surprise.. Religion of peace my ass!
 

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Otterly said:
He whipped the traders out of the temple.
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Not traders, forex brokers. The temple wanted tithes to be paid in the local currency, and as a result a bunch of people showed up happy to do trade-ins, and where better to do so than in the nice, cool, shady temple out of the hot sun? Of course, there's a small transaction fee involved in doing so, and of course the temple was no doubt charging the moneychangers rent for whatever space they were taking up.

In short, he was pissed as fuck the temple priests found a way to double-dip on the money they were raking in, and rather than cause a ton of problems by going after the priests directly decided to "escort" the most visible problem out of the temple because its not like the priests could protest without looking like a bunch of hypocritical jackasses in public.
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Here is an explanation

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Here's a better quality one that I'm surprised the BBC hasn't yanked:
 
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judegdubey said:
Edit. Might be wrong but ain't you the nutter who got thread banned from here for sperging about things that go bang back in the summer?
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No, that was the guy with the Wallace and Grommit avatar. I had him on mute because he was stalking me across different threads.

He got banned in the end because he kept on talking about making things that go boom and home and refused to stop. Poor Null got involved with him in the end and he got a full sitewide permaban.
 
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FedPostalService said:
No, that was the guy with the Wallace and Grommit avatar. I had him on mute because he was stalking me across different threads.

He got banned in the end because he kept on talking about making things that go boom and home and refused to stop. Poor Null got involved with him in the end and he got a full sitewide permaban.
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Ah sorry my mistake, I remembered your username active when we were posting about the riots and him contanstly fed posting, obviously 2+2=5 for my dumb ass.

Don't blame null, that's all the site needs the leftys being able to say shit like that is discussed here.
 
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There's already a separate thread for this in A&N, but I'm posting the Spectator's article on the trump election here for anyone who hasn't seen it. The Spectator has been the magazine allied with the conservative party since its founding in 1828, and is the oldest surviving magazine in the world. The current editor is Michael Gove, Boris Johnson was an editor there too. Maybe it will make people realise how the conservative party actually thinks and that the aristocracy of this country literally is the elite. That's what both those words mean.

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What if the Liberal Elites are Right?
You can hear it already. Rising from the tents of the dejected Democrat camp comes the whimper of self-reproach. It’s all our fault. Liberalism created this monster. There’s a distinct whiff of mea culpa in the air. Nostra culpa, nostra maxima culpa for the alienation of half the American people.
Donald Trump and his mob? It’s the fault of liberals for not feeling Trump-America’s pain. We fed their despair. Noses in the air (apparently), deaf to the woes of all those deplorables, and babbling about trans rights, preferred pronouns and all the rest of the “woke agenda,” we have lost the trust of those we (apparently) secretly consider negligible.
Hence Trump, apparently. Hence Reform. Hence Le Pen. Hence the AfD. Hence populism. Symptoms, all of them, not agents: unwitting by-products of American and European liberalism’s self-indulgent disregard for the silent majority of the just-about-managing. Apparently Theresa May’s “citizens of the world” have simply blanked what the (normally liberal) David Goodhart calls the “Somewhere people” in his The Road to Somewhere. No wonder they’re revolting. Blame the Anywhere people.
The US presidential election has provoked an inflamed outbreak of this liberal self-flagellation. A hero of mine, Andrew Sullivan, high priest in the marriage of personal freedom with conservative politics and one of the finest essayists alive, writes in the Sunday Times of London about how he was almost (but not quite) ready to vote for Trump, so sympathetic is he to forgotten America’s rage against the woke “elite.” The Democrats (he writes) have “missed a critical new reality in American politics: it’s about class, not identity” — and we liberals are snobs.
An equally hard-hitting essay by David Brooks in Atlantic magazine (“Confessions of a Republican Exile”) describes why, as a former Republican voter, he has almost (but not quite) despaired of his new roost among the Democrats. They just don’t seem to “get” the frustration with liberalism that has driven the supposedly left-behind half of America into the arms of Trump, he laments.
Enough. The self-criticism has gone too far. All this wailing about what we liberals have apparently caused calls to mind (and will remind Spectator readers old enough to remember Peter Simple’s weekly parody in the Telegraph) Dr. Heinz Kiosk, the popular psychoanalyst and consultant to the Ministry of Jet Propulsion. Dr. Kiosk’s audience, as he approached the habitual peroration to his lectures — “We are all guilty!” — would make a despairing rush for the doors and windows.
There’s a double irony in the liberal urge to blame populism not on the populists, but on ourselves as liberals for neglecting them. The first irony is that blaming societal conditions rather than individuals is what in other circumstances infuriates your western populist. The habit is mocked in Sondheim’s parody of liberal social workers in West Side Story: “Gee, Officer Krupke, we’re very upset / We never had the love that ev’ry child oughta get / We ain’t no delinquents / We’re misunderstood / Deep down inside us there is good!”
But, in the case of Trump supporters, deluded populist fantasists and their deranged leader are proving the beneficiaries of the liberal blame-shift from someone to everyone. Listen, for a similar case, look to that supremely articulate once-student (now cheerleader) of the British populist right, Professor Matthew Goodwin, interviewed recently on Nick Robinson’s Political Thinking podcast. Cogent, fluent, passionate, Goodwin’s is nevertheless essentially a massive bleat. The elite (it emerges), blind to ordinary voters’ anxieties about immigration, “two-tier policing,” economic hardship, etc, has radicalized his crowd. It’s all our fault — or so we are supposed to believe. Populists who get so irritated when race riots are blamed (by the liberal elite) on “white privilege” now bask in the comfortable conclusion that they and their politics are victims of elite privilege.
The second irony is that excusing Trump supporters for believing nonsense and placing their faith in a rascally demagogue on the grounds that they know not what they do, and college-educated people drove them to it, is deeply if subtly insulting. It’s as if we consider them to be children, unable to make informed decisions. Be clear: we liberals do not believe a Trump presidency will be in the interests of Trump supporters. Yet the poor lambs have been deceived by his infantile promises. It must be our fault, we grown-ups who (unlike them) have rumbled him.
It’s time we stopped patronizing populists by cooing that we’re sorry we didn’t listen and will henceforward do our best to “address their concerns.” We should treat them as the adults they are, and tell them, man to man, that their concerns cannot be met. In countries like America, where money, talent and ambition gravitate towards clusters where success breeds success, we cannot realistically level-up with scarce public funds when the Treasury’s cupboard is bare.
In a national workforce where whole sectors of the economy are critically short of workers to fill jobs we must either import labor (immigration), hoist wages to a level that attracts native workers (inflation and higher taxation) or starve the health, social care, farming and service sectors of workers (ruination). We can keep out imports at a stroke, but prices will rise and our own exporters will face reprisals.
Yes, we can put more and more people in prison and keep them there longer, and — yes — “serve them right;” but all experience shows this does not reduce criminality and costs a bomb (taxation).
British populists wanted to leave the EU, and they did: the leaders complied — and much good it did anyone. But, yes, the British and more importantly the United States can draw in our horns, run down defense and leave foreign tyrants to do their worst. That’s what populists wanted before World War Two. They were wrong.
“Wrong,” plain and simple. Liberals should stop beating ourselves up, stop whimpering about how we failed to address populist concerns, and face millions of good but deluded men and women with honest argument. They are wrong. We are right. We shall be proved right. Chins up.
This article was originally published on The Spectator’s UK website.
 
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Tragon Dirtle said:
But, in the case of Trump supporters, deluded populist fantasists and their deranged leader are proving the beneficiaries of the liberal blame-shift from someone to everyone.
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The second irony is that excusing Trump supporters for believing nonsense and placing their faith in a rascally demagogue on the grounds that they know not what they do, and college-educated people drove them to it, is deeply if subtly insulting.
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Tragon Dirtle said:
the poor lambs have been deceived by his infantile promises.
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Cope and seethe, now in print form.
 
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FedPostalService said:
Douglas Murray will be fuming. I’ve notice a lot of Conservative papers going weird. The Times has went full le edgy centrist and the Mail will run the occasional pro- boat monkey or troon piece.

The Telegraph seems to be holding the line tough.
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The mail is a globalist shitrag and has been for a very long time. They were editing videos during the St George Riots of Peace to show Whites are aggitators and blacks are victims, when the full unedited videos shows a very different picture.

If its a major print, its globalist and nothing more than in service of the liberal dream of a nation of rootless slaves who work to shower the elites with children to rape, and goods to consume.

Thats what most of our major media is, servile to the dream. We are the leading nation in New Slavehood, and God forbid any fool who stands in the way of this paradise of hell.
 
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Tragon Dirtle said:
Maybe it will make people realise how the conservative party actually thinks and that the aristocracy of this country literally is the elite. That's what both those words mean.
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How Matthew Parris thinks, more like. He'd be a Lib Dem if he was an MP nowadays.
 
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