The Holocaust Thread - The Great Debate Between Affirmers, Revisionists and Deniers

[Chugger]

"Fucking aliens stole my car and shit on my lawn!"
"How do you know that? Did your ring camera catch a video of the Mexicans or something?"
"Mexicans? NO! Fucking space aliens abducted my car and shit on my lawn! I can tell because my car is missing and there is shit on my lawn!"
".....so your car isn't there, but some shit is and you say...aliens did it? Did you, ah, check the poop for alien DNA or something? Got some radar reading of their craft or...?"
"No, of course not! But what we have found, a missing car and fresh lawn shit PERFECTLY FITS THE ALLEGATIONS OF MARTIAN CAR-THIEF LAWNSHITTERS!"


A good question.

So if the Nazis cremated the bodies of hundreds of thousands of people, and then mixed those cremains with sand in an irregular way to prevent easy calculation, how would you propose examiners figure out how many bodies worth of cremains are there?

I'm just humoring you really, because I expect nothing but silliness from you, like the above.

This stuff kind of speaks for itself tbh, unless you're confusing meters for inches or something. It's quite obvious, from a revisionist perspective, that kola is simply lying about what he found, and you make a fool of yourself for not just stating this and trying to argue his findings are accurate yet wholly meaningless.

 

[Bonesjones]

So if the Nazis cremated the bodies of hundreds of thousands of people

More assumptions

I'm just humoring you really, because I expect nothing but silliness from you, like the above.

No one cares what you think

This stuff kind of speaks for itself tbh, unless you're confusing meters for inches or something.

If it speaks for itself why have you spent years referring to the same study we've obliterated? Where is your better more accurate information? You really do have a humiliation fetish.

 

[Chugger]

If it speaks for itself why have you spent years referring to the same study we've obliterated?

John Doe "obliterated" the study by apparently agreeing it may have been accurate but that it showed nothing remotely suspicious. I'm interested in how he reacts to the contents of the study. Your mind seems totally cooked, so I'm not as interested in you, sorry.

 

[Bonesjones]

John Doe "obliterated" the study by apparently agreeing it may have been accurate but that it showed nothing remotely suspicious. I'm interested in how he reacts to the contents of the study. Your mind seems totally cooked, so I'm not as interested in you, sorry.

Hey look at you putting words in other people's mouths you absolute insane idiot. You can't even make your own words or arguments make sense with a whole blog group behind them. I don't care if you are interested in me, I'm here to disprove the holocaust and laugh at your futile attempts at whatever you keep trying to do, which seems to be humiliated over being wrong every day. What happened to your friends? Why do they never stick around? Or is it you trying to use alts to cover up your own idiocy?

 

[John.Doe]

John Doe "obliterated" the study by apparently agreeing it may have been accurate but that it showed nothing remotely suspicious.

No. I asked what the presence of possibly burned human remains directly proves. You have to start with your evidence and then build to a conclusion with links of logic, instead of starting from your conclusion and trying to crowbar in anything you can without any connection (or tortured logic.) Everything must be twisted and contorted to fit your pre-determined final conclusion, a memo about some Hauptmann's boot polish purchases is held up as proof there was Jew-ash everywhere, a photo of two men holding a woman is a 'prisoner being thrown into a crematorium' despite there being nothing else but trees and a fence in the photo, and a possible finding of some burned human remains is proof-positive that Jews were incinerated in an industrial fashion on direct orders from the Fuhrer.

Except that isn't true, none of these things prove your ultimate conclusion, they are only twisted and forced to a shape that may fit into a pattern that you are trying to wish into existence. Most of it ends up even being contradictory when you try to look at your overall pattern, because you are trying to twist each individual bit in isolation to fit your end conclusion, instead of seeking truth. Take for example the whole cremation debacle. A simple question about 'where did they get the fuel needed to cremate the millions of corpses?' turned into a three ring circus where the cadavers were emaciated and starved - except for the fat ones the Nazis rendered down to use as fuel, which were all then incinerated in their super-crematoriums that ran on jew fat - except for the ones burned in the open pits shown in their photos, and you won't ever see a picture of the super crematorium because photos were banned - but also we have all these pictures of everything but the crematoriums, with bonus continual bad faith and constant attempts to flip the burden of proof and demanding other people defend positions they never claimed.

This is conspiratard level thinking at the best, and outright deception at its worst. The basic neutral position where full faith and credit is given cannot be sustained in the face of such duplicity, and the only ones to blame are the people that refuse to engage in even a modicum of good faith. Even here you continue to twist and misstate other people's positions to burden shift sneakily.

 

[Chugger]

I asked what the presence of possibly burned human remains directly proves.

It's a question of scale, really, of the size of the graves, the fact that they contain layers of ash. The fact of the size of the layers of ash, which are distributed in graves that are 100 feet wide and 30 feet long (grave #5). You ignore scale, treating the graves as if they are 100x smaller than they are.

It doesn't directly evidence gassing, or even killing. It evidences mass body destruction (of the type you would expect if hundreds of thousands of bodies had been buried, then excavated, destroyed, and ashes reburied).

 

[Bonesjones]

It's a question of scale, really, of the size of the graves

Repeating yourself won't make not graves into graves, nice temper tantrum, child.

 

[John.Doe]

It's a question of scale, really,

"Fucking aliens stole my car and shit on my lawn! LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THIS SHIT PILE!"
"How do you know that? Did your ring camera catch a video of the Mexicans or something?"
"Mexicans? NO! Fucking space aliens abducted my car and shit on my lawn! I can tell because my car is missing and there is a HUGE PILE OF SHIT on my lawn!"
".....so your car isn't there, but a big pile shit is and you say...aliens did it? Did you, ah, check the poop for alien DNA or something? Got some radar reading of their craft or...?"
"No, of course not! But what we have found, a missing car and massively huge fresh lawn shit PERFECTLY FITS THE ALLEGATIONS OF MARTIAN CAR-THIEF LAWNSHITTERS! The only thing that makes sense is MARTIANS! No human could shit THAT BIG!"

 

[Chugger]

"Fucking aliens stole my car and shit on my lawn! LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THIS SHIT PILE!"
"How do you know that? Did your ring camera catch a video of the Mexicans or something?"
"Mexicans? NO! Fucking space aliens abducted my car and shit on my lawn! I can tell because my car is missing and there is a HUGE PILE OF SHIT on my lawn!"
".....so your car isn't there, but a big pile shit is and you say...aliens did it? Did you, ah, check the poop for alien DNA or something? Got some radar reading of their craft or...?"
"No, of course not! But what we have found, a missing car and massively huge fresh lawn shit PERFECTLY FITS THE ALLEGATIONS OF MARTIAN CAR-THIEF LAWNSHITTERS! The only thing that makes sense is MARTIANS! No human could shit THAT BIG!"

Wonderful work. Your story of the Germans cremating a few thousand typhus victims and then distributing the ashes in layers across 21,000 cubic meters of grave space (when about 10 cubic meters would do) makes perfect sense.

 

[John.Doe]

Wonderful work. Your story

I haven't made any story up. Stop trying to shift the burden of proof, retard.

 

[Chugger]

I haven't made any story up. Stop trying to shift the burden of proof, retard.

Anything at all to distinguish this from a mass burn site/grave for victims of typhus, which was common in the period?

I was responding to this.

The way circumstantial evidence works, is if you don't have a plausible alternative explanation, it becomes very strong, approaching direct evidence.

Your example of shit on the lawn being evidence of aliens is a good example a look at because there are plausible alternative explanations to aliens. But what if there was 20,000 cubic meters of shit on the ground? And lots of eyewitnesses reporting a UFO at that location dumping shit on the ground?

 

[John.Doe]

The way circumstantial evidence works, is if you don't have a plausible alternative explanation, it becomes very strong, approaching direct evidence.

You are, again, wrong. Stop trying to do things with burden of proof that are unnatural and deceptive. I know its hard for you, being a Jew, but maybe if you try real hard you can be honest for just one post.

 

[Bonesjones]

Guys the holocaust is real, after 80 years of research and billions of dollars in reparations. I found the proof that will show you once and for all! It's a poorly managed dig that we didn't photograph the results of! Sure it doesn't show anyone being gassed nor cremated but that's hardly the issue. See look, I can use my alt accounts to back me up!

 

[Mr. Frank Einstein Ràtheo]

What are your thoughts on the fact that Eva Braun was a Jewess and that the prince of the Sanhedrin is called Nasi?

What if you’re duped by the “Jew” yet again in your belief that they are Jews?

Hasn’t it occurred to you that Naziism is Zionism?

What if you’re in here chomping at bits held up by a bunch of sneaky rabbis?

Do you even know why they call you goyim?

You people are lost in the weeds.

 

[fresh pair of socks]

The way circumstantial evidence works, is if you don't have a plausible alternative explanation, it becomes very strong, approaching direct evidence.

Circumstantial evidence is used in conjunction with other evidence to prove a point. It does not replace direct evidence, nor does it become as strong as direct evidence simply because no other evidence exists.

You don't use circumstantial evidence on its own to prove anything. Between your love of AI sources and your lack understanding of basic concepts, I'm starting to think the jews aren't sending their best.

Eye witness testimony is near worthless as well. There are thousands of people who claim to have seen flying saucers, big foot, and Nessie. It doesn't make it fact.

 

[Chugger]

Circumstantial evidence is used in conjunction with other evidence to prove a point. It does not replace direct evidence, nor does it become as strong as direct evidence simply because no other evidence exists.

You don't use circumstantial evidence on its own to prove anything. Between your love of AI sources and your lack understanding of basic concepts, I'm starting to think the jews aren't sending their best.

Eye witness testimony is near worthless as well. There are thousands of people who claim to have seen flying saucers, big foot, and Nessie. It doesn't make it fact.

Why don't you try answering this question? What's a plausible explanation for why there is 20,000 cubic meters of pits containing human remains at Belzec (with a surface area of 6000 square meters, that's literally more than a football field), with thick layers of human ash deposited throughout?

 

[John.Doe]

Why don't you try answering this question?

Because you have the burden of proof, faggot. Nobody has to present and defend an alternative hypothesis, you need to prove yours.

 

[Bonesjones]

Why don't you try answering this question? What's a plausible explanation for why there is 20,000 cubic meters of pits containing human remains at Belzec (with a surface area of 6000 square meters, that's literally more than a football field), with thick layers of human ash deposited throughout?

When are you going to use your expert holocaust credentials to go do a dig and prove it once and for all? You are a respected holocaust researcher right and not just a retard with a blog?

 

[Chugger]

When are you going to use your expert holocaust credentials to go do a dig and prove it once and for all? You are a respected holocaust researcher right and not just a retard with a blog?

I don't care about proving it, I'm just interested in pathology.

The question is important, because John doe is saying kolas findings if accurate are not suspicious

 

[Bonesjones]

I don't care about proving it, I'm just interested in pathology.

The question is important, because John doe is saying kolas findings if accurate are not suspicious

The only pathology that you are interested in is your pathological inability to tell the truth. Faggot.