Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

"inside me are two wolves."
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Also two testicles.
 
Who is Oliver's audience? All of his content, and leftytube in general, is presented as if the viewer is a kid or mentally handicapped. Everything is condescendingly slow and simplified, not to mention, usually bollocks. I don't believe that even an intellectually curious 14 year old would want to sit through a Tube video.

Are his audience just AGPs who are there for the rubber outfits?

The three reliable audiences online are children, manchildren, and troons.
Also europian university students who believe he is good. They were doing masters...
 
Mass appeal AND artistic integrity. Also known as the Millman Dilemma.

He sold his soul for a shard of fame,
He's banal, he's facile, and the jokes are lame.
It irritates me more than it probably should that he refers to his output as 'art'. Describing his videos as 'essays' is pretentious already; 'art' is going another step further.

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Did anyone see what he deleted?
 

New post-mortem stream.

My notes are in random order but I put a couple time stamps.

He’s wearing a shirt that ‘Morgana’ gave him. It’s too large so he cut out the sleeves and turned it into a muscle shirt with a fishnet shirt underneath. He gets up several times and he is looking decidedly male these days. I took some screen shots you can see below. It reminds me of when SNL used to do Goth Talk. It’s giving lanky Chris Kattan, honestly.

Someone asks if he used a teleprompter for his one-take last video and he comically recoils and says he’s an act-ah and doesn’t need a teleprompter. He memorizes. He says something snarky about how some YouTubers do use/need a teleprompter. Pretty sure he’s shading Contra who I believe uses one. He says “who do you think I am???….I was about to name another creator there but I won’t do that...” (21:45)

He’s asked if he uses “actor” or “actress.” He says actor is gender neutral in Britain but sometimes he’ll say actress cause he knows people will try to “stealth misgender me” by using “actor.”

He says he’s doing workouts 6 days a week and describes his “split” - I forget what he said but it was like shoulders day, legs day, triceps and chest day, biceps day. and a day of cardio. He says he was REALLY being disciplined in advance of the DEX premiere but has loosened up a bit recently and gained SOME weight back. He says his brain wants to freak out over the weight gain but he tries not to. He says you cant spell demon with out ED or something like that. Someone asks him how much weight but he declines to get into specifics.

He talks about having many, many, ex-girlfriends and that several gave him recipes that he still makes to this day. He said he had dinner with his university ex the other day.

He says they did 4 takes of the video essay. He was happy with the third one but the Nebula legal department called and wanted some language changed. So we see the fourth take.

He goes on at length about how he was being ironic with the “parody” thumbnail. He “jokingly” says all his thumbnails will be like that in the future. He says the “thumbnail had a higher click through rate than usual.” You can tell he’s slipping around and doing the trends while simultaneously trying to act above it. But then you guys already know that lol.

He made his outfit for this last video, Brian the Stylist was not involved. He gave the make up artist (Nikki) a Sweeney Todd image of Johnny Depp as a reference point.

He mentions the US presidential election throughout but he’s very blasé about it. I mean he expresses disappointment obviously, but it’s very jocular. I’ve noticed plenty of leftists have been taking this ironic tone lately. Later in the stream a superchatter says they watch Tube and voted for Trump. When his frothing tranny chat starts dogpiling the superchatter he scolds them gently and tells them to stop.

He says he would have been disturbed to have a Trump fan among his viewers two weeks ago but now it depends. If the Trump supporter wanted to deny Oliver health care and that’s why he voted for Trump that’s not ok but if he voted for Trump for help with gas and groceries that’s different and “I get it.” He doesn’t think Trump will help with those things but “someone should help you with those things.” Later he says, “let’s not talk about the election. They’ll be plenty of time to talk about it later. Here’s to - 1.6 million subscribers!” Lol.

He says this last video had virtually no transphobic comments. (I figured plenty of viewers wouldn’t even know he was trying to be a woman and thus didn’t comment about it.)

He says something about his neighbor building furniture upstairs, the chat asks if the neighbor (male) is hot. Oliver says “eh” and apologizes if the neighbor happens to be watching. He says another (male) neighbor is super hot and that Oliver drops off cookies to him when he bakes them. He says laughing, “here’s some cookies for you….-and your girlfriend.” I find it funny cause he tells the story in the same manner of the DEX character. As though he’s a sexy sexy minx who might steal some Chad from his hot (cis) girlfriend. Yeah, sure.

54:10 is CHOICE: He says when he goes out to trans/queer spaces it “becomes work” because people recognize him. He just wants to go and get drunk and make out with a hottie on the dance floor. “But then as soon as I walk in like a dozen people come up to me like ‘omg I came out because of you! Your Abigail Thorn!’ And I’m like oh, cool, great. That’s really nice, I like that. But when that happens, I’m like - okay now I’m at work. Because now I’M not just here, the BRAND is also here. And the brand is my job.” Fucking hell! Im laughing as I type that out but also in disbelief that he could actually say all that in public. Narc freak.

He says he went on a date with a trans stripper. Someone recognized him and asked how the date was going while he was there and he turned and looked over at his date - who was stripping on stage - and he saw his date remove their panties over “her” heels right at that moment. So he said, laughing, “it’s going pretty good!” Someone asks if it’s objectifying but he says that the night was to celebrate trans bodies.

During the stream he gets some kind of notice that he’s hit a subscriber milestone (1.6 million) so he goes and gets some wine to celebrate. He likes Pinot noirs best but tonight he has a Cab that was a gift from Nebula at the DEX premiere. He says he’s really good with a corkscrew from wining and dining so many of his exes. He says lately he’s been comparing himself to other YouTubers - ones who have 3 or 4 million subs, but he’s realized he makes “weird shit” and wants to keep pushing himself. Someone says he’s approaching hbomberguy’s subscriber count but he says it’s not a competition.

He talks about the view count for this last video but puts a very postive spin on it. “The numbers on this one? Pretty darn good, pretty. darn. good.”

Some upcoming video ideas include nihilism, religion, (“there’s something gnawing on me, something about Liberation theory and Catholicism and JD Vance and the right wing having a monopoly on religion,”), the Vienna circle, something about queer prison abolition. He says he likes to do at least one “queer shit” video a year. Such as the NHS one and the Judith Butler one.

He says he was mistaken to reference “social credit scores” in the context of China because the reporting about it in Western media has been very “alarmist and misleading.” He apologizes for the error but says it was an ad lib during the take. I guess a bunch of his viewers called him out for it. He says it was a “dumb and misleading”thing to do. I don’t see the issue but I guess it was a minor scandal among his audience.

Someone else said his definition of democracy at the end of the video is really a definition of liberalism. He agrees. He says his latest videos have been trending towards liberalism and not radicalism. He says he “libbed out.” He says the videos this past year have had little radical moments but have been “a little too cozy, a little too easy.” He wants to refocus on materiel conditions.

Someone’s asks if he likes audio books. He prefers a regular book. He tells the story about trying to make an audio book for an ex who loved Nabokov. (Contra). He says it was a “labor of love.” “Her favorite was Lolita, my favorite was Ada. I thought this said something terribly important about our personalities because Lolita is a tragedy and Ada has a happy ending…”. But Contra dumped him and he abandoned the project.

He says his YouTube career doesn’t come up during auditions. He says the House of Dragons people didn’t know about PT. Someone asks why he’s been successful with acting while other YouTubers have not and he says it’s cause he went to drama school. A commenter says Abby is an actress who got lucky with YouTube and he agrees. “YouTube is something I do. Actor is something I am.”

Oh snap he says he’s going to a wedding in December in Montana for “two of my friends.” Could it be Tony Reed and Zooey Zephyr???? Was a date set??? Merry Christmas to all of us if so, my God. Comedy gold.

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I thought he was going to montana for reed and zephyr but didn’t realize it was their wedding. Thats great. Hope he does some tik toks of that one

Funny he’s annoyed about the right wing having some monopoly on religion when he’s clearly an atheist.

Also him apologizing for some mild criticism of the Chinese surveillance state is pure cuck mode. Sorry guys I implied it’s bad for the government to be aware of everything you are doing at all times because I hear, from where I sit here in Britain, that it’s all ok actually. Did he actually say anything that was factually untrue? (I didnt watch the video)
 
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He says he went on a date with a trans stripper. Someone recognized him and asked how the date was going while he was there and he turned and looked over at his date - who was stripping on stage - and he saw his date remove their panties over “her” heels right at that moment. So he said, laughing, “it’s going pretty good!” Someone asks if it’s objectifying but he says that the night was to celebrate trans bodies.
Gross.
 
Someone asks if he used a teleprompter for his one-take last video and he comically recoils and says he’s an act-ah and doesn’t need a teleprompter. He memorizes. He says something snarky about how some YouTubers do use/need a teleprompter. Pretty sure he’s shading Contra who I believe uses one. He says “who do you think I am???….I was about to name another creator there but I won’t do that...” (21:45)
He talks about having many, many, ex-girlfriends and that several gave him recipes that he still makes to this day. He said he had dinner with his university ex the other day.
He says lately he’s been comparing himself to other YouTubers - ones who have 3 or 4 million subs, but he’s realized he makes “weird shit” and wants to keep pushing himself. Someone says he’s approaching hbomberguy’s subscriber count but he says it’s not a competition.
He tells the story about trying to make an audio book for an ex who loved Nabokov. (Contra). He says it was a “labor of love.” “Her favorite was Lolita, my favorite was Ada. I thought this said something terribly important about our personalities because Lolita is a tragedy and Ada has a happy ending…”. But Contra dumped him and he abandoned the project.
Un-fucking-real. Can this chode go a single day without relentlessly referencing and shading Contra? Jfc. GET OVER IT. This is the most passive aggressive cluster B shit ever. Borders on harassment. His bitterness is just never-ending, it's only gotten worse since the public humiliating snubs from Contra. Narcissistic injury through and through.
 
He says lately he’s been comparing himself to other YouTubers - ones who have 3 or 4 million subs, but he’s realized he makes “weird shit” and wants to keep pushing himself.
Out of all the breadtubers Toob has by far the most workman-like channel. It's low information, high flash content, pumped out on a regular schedule. Besides Toob's unlikeable personality and general incuriosity, Toob's videos are most similar to the big pop-sci channels like Veritasium or SciShow.
Say what you like about breadtubers, but the majority of them seem to put out content about things that interest them only when they have something they want to talk about. Toob focuses on brand building and the algorithm way more than any other contemporaries. Blaming not having a higher subscriber count on making 'weird shit' is pure cope.
 
Out of all the breadtubers Toob has by far the most workman-like channel. It's low information, high flash content, pumped out on a regular schedule. Besides Toob's unlikeable personality and general incuriosity, Toob's videos are most similar to the big pop-sci channels like Veritasium or SciShow.
Say what you like about breadtubers, but the majority of them seem to put out content about things that interest them only when they have something they want to talk about. Toob focuses on brand building and the algorithm way more than any other contemporaries. Blaming not having a higher subscriber count on making 'weird shit' is pure cope.
Breadtube, to an amazing extent, is a scam, something akin to MLMs or cults. Once you reach a certain critical mass of popularity among the target audience and your Patreon is going strong then you can just sit back and do literally fucking nothing and your dumb paypigs will keep funding your comfortable lifestyle because for some reason they think they're supporting a good cause by doing so. Contra, Hbomberguy, Lindsay Ellis and Shaun produce between two and zero videos a year, and are apparently no worse off for it. Shaun doesn't even bother with any video content, he just spews his hatred of J. K. Rowling (or whoever) for an hour in his monotonous nasal whine with a picture of a skull in the background.

Say what you will about Olly, he actually justifies his paypigs' support by producing regular videos, and although his content is basically Walmart Contra, you couldn't describe it as low-effort. Intellectually low-effort I guess, but high production quality for YouTube videos.
 
"More radical"

Imagine thinking you're a radical when your whole personality is based around maximizing social and career leverage, when your political rivals are slobbering over Elon because they've been allowed back onto just one of the major platforms that had banned them and when American film companies finance your sexual fantasies.
 
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Isn't it nice to be able to just take a month off and live off poor people giving you money for nothing
One thing I forgot to mention is he said it was pretty cold in the UK but he tries not to turn on the heat in his flat until he absolutely has to cause it’s quite expensive. Uh huh, sure.

Unless I missed it there was no superchat from his obsessive super fan Diana Rivera (who regularly gives him hundreds and hundreds of dollars) so maybe he’s fallen on hard times lol.
 
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He’s asked if he uses “actor” or “actress.” He says actor is gender neutral in Britain but sometimes he’ll say actress cause he knows people will try to “stealth misgender me” by using “actor.”

He says he’s doing workouts 6 days a week and describes his “split” - I forget what he said but it was like shoulders day, legs day, triceps and chest day, biceps day. and a day of cardio.
YOU WILL NEVER BE A REAL CELEBRITY

Someone asks him how much weight but he declines to get into specifics.

He talks about having many, many, ex-girlfriends and that several gave him recipes that he still makes to this day. He said he had dinner with his university ex the other day.
YOU WILL NEVER BE ANNE HATHAWAY

He goes on at length about how he was being ironic with the “parody” thumbnail. He “jokingly” says all his thumbnails will be like that in the future. He says the “thumbnail had a higher click through rate than usual.”
YOU WERE ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED lol

As though he’s a sexy sexy minx who might steal some Chad from his hot (cis) girlfriend. Yeah, sure.
YOU AND CHRIS TYSON BOTH SOMEHOW GOT MANLIER AFTER TROONING OUT
!!!🚨SOYBOY POONERMALE TO CHADLY HON PIPELINE REAL🚨!!!


He says he’s really good with a corkscrew from wining and dining so many of his exes.
OLLIE YOU ARE A CREEPY NARC BETA AND NON-POZZED WOMEN FEAR YOUR PTERODACTYL TROONCLAWS, WEIRD CLAVICLES AND RAPE JUICE

but he’s realized he makes “weird shit” and wants to keep pushing himself.
But then as soon as I walk in like a dozen people come up to me like ‘omg I came out because of you!
He says the videos this past year have had little radical moments but have been “a little too cozy, a little too easy.” He wants to refocus on materiel conditions.
“YouTube is something I do. Actor is something I am.”
My caps key is ok now. Ollie is a PRETENTIOUS FAGGOT and I could not have suffered through his creepy annoying dipshittery without chemical intervention, so thank you for your service. What a fucking imbecile. :story:

although his content is basically Walmart Contra, you couldn't describe it as low-effort
a most great and terrible insult:feels::drink:hahaha. Poor poor Ollie. No sympathy for AGPs and blowhards. I love how many people here* (fuck you autocorrect) comment on his work ethic being strong—still aggressively mediocre if not outright awful, always halfbaked, and trite! Love that for him.
 
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