2024 U.S. Presidential and State election thread - I'm gonna... I'm gonna... VOOT!!! I'm VOOOOOTING!!!

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"'Amazing': Donald Trump's gender bill receives praise"

When Americans are watching Sky News Australia instead of mainstream American media...to get accurate and intelligent news... Thank you, Sky News Australia!​

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Crazy that women saying he’s sexist and misogynistic, YET he’s protecting women from men entering their sports.​

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The "families can be deported together" is such a hard line.

If this guy is half as enthusiastic for his job as he sounds we'll have a strong border.

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"Could it be the endless demonizing propaganda, the sky high crime because of unchecked mass immigration, or maybe even pushing LGBTQ++ on kids? No! It has to be STARLINK!"
They're wondering why brave POC woman Kamala has 10 million votes less than old white guy Biden and Trump has about the same number of votes (or up to +600k depending on which election site you're looking at), and instead of considering an unfortunate theory they're blaming funny electric rocket Afrikaaner.
 
I can see it. The way I see it is the Republicans were still the “uncool old boomer party” with McCain and Obama used social media propaganda to gain the overwhelming support of Millenials, so in that sense he was a continuation of that sort of progressive counterculture seen in the George Dubya Bush days. It’s hilarious though because after the Democrats gained total control they became the new culture, and the conservatives became the edgy underground counterculture instead where there’s a lot of pushback on even moderately rightwing political views. After the assassination attempt on Trump I was pleasantly surprised to see more people comfortably, vocally supportive of him. The Democrats are really the fearmongers here and use it as a method of control of what is acceptable to say.

It would seem Millenials do indeed still view Obama very favorably, and Gen Z not so much because they grew up with Trump. So fucking hilarious they’re going to grow up remembering DONALD J. TRUMP and not that Yemeni baby-killing snarky asshat.
 
Out of the 3 scott is the least shitty choice, but realistically someone else fully.
Charlie Kirk was yapping about how John Adams was VP and majority leader so Vance could be considered. That would be quite cool.
I saw some map where like only one island in Hawaii voted 100 percent for Trump.

It was only a small island though with 43 people.
Sounds like heaven.
 
alien thinking
SJWs come up with reality-denying thinking that can go against healthy human nature, then convince themselves and at least others as well that such collectivist thinking is good, and then villify those who disagree as "alt-right" -- all while possibly still seeing that "woke" isn't really good. Could explain why SJWs tend to be more miserable.
 
One of the most conservative states in the nation had 41% of registered voters with no faith in either Trump or Harris, and another 25% for Harris. That leaves roughly a 1/3rd of Texans actually in support of Trump, and I imagine this trend follows for most states Trump won the popular vote in.
there was a hilariously low voter turnout this year compared to 2020. If you take a look at Texas:
Not to necropost, since I'm a few days late, but the data is interesting to me.

Texas is of course not one of the most conservative states, it's just one of the larger populations that goes Red. But lots of states routinely get won by far higher margins by the GOP, and so are far more conservative. Texas is a lean conservative state.

As to Texas GOP turnout, Trump has actually done quite well. The largest vote gain in decades was George Bush gaining around 700,000 votes between 2000 to 2004. Trump destroyed that by winning Texas by 1.2 million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016, and this year Trump gained another 480,000 votes on top of that already high result.

Compare that to Bush getting 4.5 million votes in Texas in 2004, and McCain, Romney, and Trump 2016 all getting right around 4.5 million, with Trump the only one to break 4.6 million. That's about 100,000 votes of GOP growth in Texas over 12 years.

Whereas Trump's 2024 vote is 1.6 million higher than in 2016.

As for Texas having lower turnout than 2020, Texas actually averages pretty low turnout in Presidential elections compared to most states, and 2020 was an unusually high turnout year for Texas. So it's hardly alarming it would go down to normal levels this year.

That said, statewide, the counties that Trump won actually saw an increase in turnout from 2020's already record levels, while Harris' counties had lower turnout than Biden got, which is why total turnout ended up down. So Trump didn't win just because Harris is unpopular and depressed turnout, he also actively gained substantial support.

From what I can see, this is also generally true nationwide; Harris' counties are down in turnout, with suburbs seeing gains from the record 2020 turnout.

Trump has gained roughly 10 million votes since 2016, holding on to his record level gains for an incumbent President in 2020. If we assume that Biden's 81 million spike in voters is not a real permanent increase, then Democrats have seen a largely flat growth nationwide since 2008 or so, while the GOP has gained significantly.
 
Kari Lake losing makes no sense to me. I think she pissed off some very powerful people in AZ that are now fucking her over.
Kari Lake is turning into a Martha McSally, they need someone else, or they need to bring back Sheriff Joe to Maricopa to lock some people away.
Reddit is the best hivemind to come together and protest against Drumpf.....BELIEVE ME!
For 2025 Republicans should really try and make sure Virginia and New Jersey become red. 2021 went well for them, but with even more momentum they could possibly push a trifecta if lucky.
Being a local to NJ, I can say that the climate is definitely changing. There's still a lot of work to be done in Bergen and Burlington to try and swipe votes away from the democrats. What baffles me is that this past Friday, Phil Murphy, the guy who won re-election by two points which is a very small margin, declared a war to the death against Trump. It's a dumb statement to make when you're a democrat witnessing your state come within 5 points of going to Trump. Phil Murphy and the NJ democratic party will be the sole reason that NJ flips, and I can say with complete confidence that it will be headed by Jack Ciattarelli in 2025.
 
SJWs come up with reality-denying thinking that can go against healthy human nature, then convince themselves and at least others as well that such collectivist thinking is good, and then villify those who disagree as "alt-right" -- all while possibly still seeing that "woke" isn't really good. Could explain why SJWs tend to be more miserable.
Tabula Rasa and Social Construction are the basis of their entire belief system. If *isms are just part of human nature and men and women are hard wired differently the whole frozen pile of shit thaws and starts to compost. If gender roles aren't purely socially constructed you'll never smash the patriarchy and trans women can never be women.

I was talking to an undergrad and they said they never learned about twin studies that give us some insight about nature vs nurture studies. Nature vs Nurture was a single three minute segment in their entire psychology 101 course.
 
Any news on the suicide watch for Peter Zeihan? Dude's whole career is built on being an expert geopolitics analyst, and he just spent the last three years insisting that Trump was mathematically guaranteed to lose in a landslide and would never win more than 12 states.

Dudes always been a complete clown on domestic US politics, got his head way too far up his ass about what Americans should be in his eyes, that he can't see them for what they are. But his bread and butter is shit in other countries borders, where he doesn't have that ego blindspot for being one of "the good guys". Anyone listening to him should know this, has definitely learned it after this shitshow, and can take it into account.

So i was waiting for us to get our cozy little USPOL thread back to bring him up.

peters talks the 1 plus hour of them where he goes over us energy, agriculture, his model European history and how we got to the world today, with a dose of demographic issues are rather good.

I ve read his books and agree with his thesis that,

After WWII american stopped metabolizing its own domestic resources and bribed other coutries to be the foot soldiers for the coming war with soviets. The Union fell and in the 1990s you had huge deflationary prosperity because you had all the goods from the former soviet states and a billion chinese hands to make what ever you wanted.

Blah Blah America doesnt need the world, the world needs america etc.

In 2015 while talking to oil people he basically predicted the Ukraine war


He been ridding that call for 3 years.

He IMO is also fucking up and pulling a rikita rather than promote his talents as a speaker he does fucking 10 minute daily videos giving fucking hot takes.

I dont use twitter but he threatened to leave it

is totally anti trump

the commits in this video are great he repeats the "immigrants do jobs americans dont want to do"


The comments roast him pretty good, oh and he has a patreon now.

Honetly I forgive someone who needs businesses to book him to speak, trying to keep political analyisis very very neutral, and IMO thats very easy less naked political talk and more policy analysis,

"if we do X then get Y result" etc
 
Holy shit is it refreshing to hear a non flowery matter of fucking fact "No more bullshit fuck you" type of statement of ACTION VS the never ending strongly worded letters. I'm a little optimistic we might actually not have to deal with migrant shitholery in the next 4 years.

It almost feels unreal still.
 
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