2024 U.S. Presidential and State election thread - I'm gonna... I'm gonna... VOOT!!! I'm VOOOOOTING!!!

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I believe that in the end the House will be

222 GOP
213 Democrat

So yes the GOP can only lose no more than 4 of its own members on full House vote

Wasn't there a rumor prior to the election of Trump having 5 Dem house seats that were doing to switch to Republican after the election?

I don't know how much truth there was to it, and it ultimately doesn't matter if Republicans have control of the House, but I'd still love to see it happen just for the salt eruption on social media.
 
Addiction medicine is fucked man.

First of all, Subutex the supposed wonder drug for addiction? Turns out the long term results aren’t a whole lot of better than for methadone or the best abstinence based programs.

SECONDLY, since it HAS to be covered, how the fuck do you turn a profit of buprenorphine. A drug that hasn’t had patents in forever? Well you just keep reformulating it. Why sell a 10 cent pill when you can sell the government a 1500$ once a month shot containing the same drug? After all, the ACA says you HAVE to cover it.

Third: Let’s look at methadone. Shit works, even if a good portion of the users abuse it. And it’s dirt cheap. No patents… Well, let’s include a bunch of bullshit weekly “counseling” sessions and make them mandatory, so we can bill the government 800$ a month instead of $50 or $100.

The ACA may have mandated the government to cover a bunch of addiction treatments with various efficacy, but it’s also absolutely milking it with useless expenses.
I cannot answer your questions because I am a recovering alcoholic. In detox, they give benzos and anti-seizure meds to punks like me. What I do know is that a lot of guys got help because they knew insurance would cover it. Me included. I don't think anyone should turn their nose up at this.
 
Tom Homan's first interview after the appointment:

"Every morning I get up, every morning I get pissed off"

This is exactly the attitude I hoped to hear, and I hope everyone in Trump's Cabinet feels the same :semperfidelis:

The more I see of Tom Homan, the more I wish for one like him in my own country. Compared to Kamala as the Border Czar, it sure seems like he is gonna put effort into it.

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I realize this is a bit off-topic, but a mentor of mine (old school Dem, gay, harris-bro, took the Puerto Rico bait) just reached out and asked for podcast or journalistic recommendations to "help understand the outcome of the election and future of the country". I can't exactly tell him to join the Farms and even Rogan is probably too much for him.
What do you guys recommend for someone on the precipice of breaking the conditioning?
 
The right way to fix school lunches is actually radically simple.

incentivize schools to have kitchens again, where food is made from scratch, instead of subsidizing frozen goyslop from mega manufacturers whose only concern is saving a nickel.

When I was a kid, lunch ladies made the food. Every week, we had soups made on a regular rotation that incorporated leftovers from the previous day's lunch. They baked their own rolls! They had ingredients out for salads. This wasn't some crazy fancy school, it was a dismal rust-belt sort of place, but the lunch ladies cared. Their kids all went to that school district. They were cooking from the heart, and even though their ingredients were humble, they often did a really good job. It wasn't all great, and some days had slop, but to me, the worst days were the ones with that cardboard "pepperoni" pizza rectangle and some sad carrot sticks. I'm sure it gave the lunch ladies a good day of respite to be able to do that instead of making pot roast or chicken a la king or whatever, but it was awful. Somehow, every kid had it in their head that the pizza was the "good" day of lunch, but I couldn't stand it.

Even by the time I was in high school, fast food and ready-made meals were invading and the from-scratch cooking had slowed to a trickle. Lunch ladies were now just heaters of slop, with no pride in their work and often with no children of their own. From what I can see, there's zero cooking at my old school now. It's all just reheated.

Those jobs had more dignity and the children were fed better when the food was made in the schools. It's time to bring that back, even if that means having to initiate a jobs program to re-train people on how to actually make food on a school-wide scale instead of just heating it up, and a grant program to ensure that schools have the equipment and training they need to be successful "onshoring" their food service operations.
Better yet: make the kids prepare their own food and teach them how to cook.
I realize this is a bit off-topic, but a mentor of mine (old school Dem, gay, harris-bro, took the Puerto Rico bait) just reached out and asked for podcast or journalistic recommendations to "help understand the outcome of the election and future of the country". I can't exactly tell him to join the Farms and even Rogan is probably too much for him.
What do you guys recommend for someone on the precipice of breaking the conditioning?
Good question. I would tell your friend to listen to Jimmy Dore. Maybe that will be a good starting point?
 
It'll be down to 221 because Trump picked Elise Stefanik from NY to be UN ambassador. He also picked someone from Florida for a position but that seems pretty safe.
Then it'll be 221-213 and it will still technically be 4 votes can be lost (unlikely there'd be any full House votes scheduled where there would be a serious chance of a tie habbening) until a special election for Stefanik's seat occurs. And Stefanik easily won reelection so it's very likely a Republican would win the special election to fill her seat. I don't think Stefanik will vacate her seat until after the new Congress is seated and votes on Speaker, certifying the election, etc.
 
Most of us working in psychology that aren't special snowflakes are against a lot of the DEI stuff. When you work with a non-verbal potato and are told they suddenly are a different gender from the parents its really easy to see how far the shit has gone.
So all five of you, then. I kid (sorta) but the state of psychology and counseling right now is in the crapper. Getting a competent counselor that hasn't been DEI'd is like finding a rare diamond in Antartica. Thank you for standing your ground. :semperfidelis:
I'm trying to be very measured in my responses to all tweets including those from the right but this just convinced me to write a strongly worded email to my senators who probably won't ever read it but I'll have done my part.
 
I cannot answer your questions because I am a recovering alcoholic. In detox, they give benzos and anti-seizure meds to punks like me. What I do know is that a lot of guys got help because they knew insurance would cover it. Me included. I don't think anyone should turn their nose up at this.
Well good on you for staying clean.

We need to overhaul addiction medicine. It’s something close to Vance’s heart I know, and RFK got the right attitude as well.
 
I realize this is a bit off-topic, but a mentor of mine (old school Dem, gay, harris-bro, took the Puerto Rico bait) just reached out and asked for podcast or journalistic recommendations to "help understand the outcome of the election and future of the country". I can't exactly tell him to join the Farms and even Rogan is probably too much for him.
What do you guys recommend for someone on the precipice of breaking the conditioning?
Racket News on substack with good ol Matt Taibbi.

2Way with Matt Halperin is also good. The guy predicted a lot of stuff that happened in the election. Not a Trumper but strongly against TDS. He’s also on Twitter.
 
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I realize this is a bit off-topic, but a mentor of mine (old school Dem, gay, harris-bro, took the Puerto Rico bait) just reached out and asked for podcast or journalistic recommendations to "help understand the outcome of the election and future of the country". I can't exactly tell him to join the Farms and even Rogan is probably too much for him.
What do you guys recommend for someone on the precipice of breaking the conditioning?
Just in terms of humanizing Vance, I think his discussion about growing up in a household with a parent struggling with addiction was very good. It's only 20 minutes, so they don't have to commit to sit through 2 hrs of someone they probably hate right now.
 
I realize this is a bit off-topic, but a mentor of mine (old school Dem, gay, harris-bro, took the Puerto Rico bait) just reached out and asked for podcast or journalistic recommendations to "help understand the outcome of the election and future of the country". I can't exactly tell him to join the Farms and even Rogan is probably too much for him.
What do you guys recommend for someone on the precipice of breaking the conditioning?
Someone earlier linked a podcast that had Victor Davis Hanson talking about the results of the election, which I watched and enjoyed.


He's a prestigious US historian, I even saw him speak when I was in university where he was invited as a guest of one of my commie Jew history professors who emphasized how good of a historian he was despite their ideological differences. Old school elder academics like him have cachet that makes it hard for serious people to dismiss them outright.

It might also be more effective if you explained it to him in your own words. Clearly he respects you and is seeking insight from you on this topic, which is the surest sign of someone honestly reconsidering their views and thinking about amending them.
 
Well good on you for staying clean.

We need to overhaul addiction medicine. It’s something close to Vance’s heart I know, and RFK got the right attitude as well.
To be quite frank, the issue with addiction is not the medicine. The issue is that a huge amount of addicts do not want to get clean and there is no way to force them to get clean. You could keep an addict locked up for 10 years and the first thing he does when he gets out is use.

I know guys who had it all: a dream job, a wife above reproach, excellent children, close friends, and fun hobbies, but they threw it all away for alcohol and/or drugs. It's fucking weird and I have no clue how to address this.
 
Addiction medicine is fucked man.

You sound like you got your talking points from an NA meeting where everyone was pissed they got forced over to buprenoprphine from methadone.

Most of those issues have nothing to do with the ACA and everything to do with the DEA being a bunch of puritanical pricks.
 
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I'm not reading your response justifying social engineering as I've seen it before back in the 00's on the internet coming from the left.

You stupid nigger. I've lived through this with the left, I just watched how it ends and it will end the same for the right. Accept it or accept the left rising to power again in twenty years, tops.
Uh, every leader and authority figure practices social engineering on some level. It's the aim of every law and policy. The problem with leftist social engineering is that it attempts to mold people into something unnatural, disregarding observable reality in favor of groundless abstract ideals. Effective social engineering means creating a society that can best align its own goals with the will of its people so that they are naturally inclined to further its interests.
 
Wasn't there a rumor prior to the election of Trump having 5 Dem house seats that were doing to switch to Republican after the election?

I don't know how much truth there was to it, and it ultimately doesn't matter if Republicans have control of the House, but I'd still love to see it happen just for the salt eruption on social media.
This is only valuable if it flips the house. Being the "bi partisan democrat that reaches across the aisle" can really help them in the general if they are in a purple competitive district, and really fuck them if they get primaried.
 
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