The Official Simpsons Griefing Thread

Saw the new Treehouse, and man almost every VA at this points sounds so old.
That and also I think now a lot of them just phone it in with a shitty Apple phone and don't have to come into a studio. That's why the sound recording sometimes sounds like they did it in a public restroom. I could really tell that with the new Animaniacs episodes.
 
You know how everybody argues about exactly when the Simpsons stopped being good? I think I found the exact point where it flipped from still being watchable to dog shit, and it's the start of season 15. I had a hypothesis that lead me to this conclusion, which was that the Simpsons turned to shit at around the time they switched from cell shaded animation to digital, which is fairly accurate, since the show makes the switch to digital mid-season 14, but the last half of season 14 still has good and memorable episodes, even if they're weak. Season 15 however has no memorable or good episodes at all.

Season 15 is also when the show really began to focus on pushing leftist Democrat party politics and telling painfully unfunny jokes in full earnest. For instance, there's episode 21 of season 15, where the Simpsons family are literally put into an American concentration camp because Bart mooned an American flag.

This is also the season with back-to-back unfunny jokes. In the beginning, Bart is given a vaccine that causes him to go deaf, and when the three bullies approach him and Bart doesn't respond to their demands, they lose their nerve and make the statement "He knows that deep down, all bullies are cowards." I pick out this one instance because I recall how the bullies behaved in earlier seasons, and the way I would expect them to be written in that situation is they realize Bart is deaf, decide his new deficiency is cool and make him their group mascot. This cowardly bully joke is then followed by Willy revealing he's also deaf, bragging about reading lips and he misinterprets what someone says and goes on a spaghetti-spilling tirade about his mom working in a filthy Starbucks.

This season is also the beginning of incongruent story hooks and plot points. Bart regains his hearing immediately after the first act concludes, and it had nothing to do with him mooning the American flag or with the episode's plot at large. It unto itself had no point or purpose, didn't play a role into the main story at all, and in earlier seasons would've been the basis for the entire episode, it would've centered on the experience of hearing loss, how much hearing loss sucks, having to live without hearing and when Bart regains his hearing, obtains a new appreciation for it by abusing it with heavy metal played on giant sub woofers pointed at him as he jams on an air guitar as the episode's closing ironic gag. Instead, the episode abandons the plot hook just as soon as its introduced, uses it for unfunny gag material and instead chooses to focus on calling America a Fascist dictatorship that incarcerates political dissenters.

And to think, this is just in 2003 and 2004. I can't imagine how much worse it gets after season 15, and if I did watch seasons 15 through 30+, I would probably just forget everything I saw immediately after.

I think it's also pretty neat how good Simpsons and shitty Simpsons are bifurcated down the middle with near equal number of seasons to compare against. Everyone says the new Simpsons seasons are experiencing a renaissance, so maybe the Simpsons changes its dynamic once every 15 years?
 
That always pisses me off. Especially retards that think Simpsons predicted Trump's presidency when everyone and their fucking mother predicted he would run since the 80's.
Some of the showrunners even literally "apologized" for that prediction.

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I am so fucking full of disgust I might actually have to watch this segment to see how bad it really is...
Are those literal Evangelion references I just read, complete with the final shot from End? How disgusting... Whoever watched this oh-so-smart sociopolitical commentary confirm this?
 
I'd say the season where The Simpsons went to shit was season 12, the 2001/2002 season. That was where an episode would start with one plot that could have been funny, then drops it and moves into a second plot that is way less funny, and sometimes even into a third plot, and never really resolving the first thread.

One prime example is Bart Joins a Boy Band. That scenario on its own could have killed it, but then they make all the members of the boy band the same kids that are always around, and then the whole thing is revealed as a US Navy recruitment scheme in an absolutely moronic twist.

It was also around that time that the writers stopped having Lisa ever be wrong about her causes or the ways she pushed them.
 
I'd say the season where The Simpsons went to shit was season 12, the 2001/2002 season. That was where an episode would start with one plot that could have been funny, then drops it and moves into a second plot that is way less funny, and sometimes even into a third plot, and never really resolving the first thread.

One prime example is Bart Joins a Boy Band. That scenario on its own could have killed it, but then they make all the members of the boy band the same kids that are always around, and then the whole thing is revealed as a US Navy recruitment scheme in an absolutely moronic twist.

It was also around that time that the writers stopped having Lisa ever be wrong about her causes or the ways she pushed them.
Yeah but season 14 still had some memorable episodes, like Homer going to band camp, Marge getting breast implants, Marge becoming a bodybuilder and the last one about Moe and Maggie. Season 12 also has one of the best episodes, HOMR, which is when Homer becomes high IQ and chooses to go back to being low IQ.

I think we can break even by saying Season 12 is when the cancer first began, but 15 is when it completely metastasized the whole show. Season 15 has nothing going for it at all. I can't pick out a single stand-out episode from that season I remember by heart or look fondly on.
 
Yeah but season 14 still had some memorable episodes, like Homer going to band camp, Marge getting breast implants, Marge becoming a bodybuilder and the last one about Moe and Maggie. Season 12 also has one of the best episodes, HOMR, which is when Homer becomes high IQ and chooses to go back to being low IQ.

I think we can break even by saying Season 12 is when the cancer first began, but 15 is when it completely metastasized the whole show. Season 15 has nothing going for it at all. I can't pick out a single stand-out episode from that season I remember by heart or look fondly on.
I thought HOMR was terrible. The way he bailed on Lisa by putting the crayon back was enraging to me as the father of a gifted girl myself.
 
I thought HOMR was terrible. The way he bailed on Lisa by putting the crayon back was enraging to me as the father of a gifted girl myself.
That's fair, considering it hits closer to home for you. Homer does have to return to the status quo by the end of the episode, unless you want to experiment with a whole season where he's a genius.
 
That's fair, considering it hits closer to home for you. Homer does have to return to the status quo by the end of the episode, unless you want to experiment with a whole season where he's a genius.
There were far, FAR better ways they could have done it that would have kept the characters true to themselves, like Lisa getting upset about not being in the spotlight and putting a crayon up homer's nose while he sleeps, or Bart doing something that accidentally knocks Homer's IQ back down, but those would all have required writers who actually knew the characters beyond simple outlines and respected the show's prior episodes.

When the family all became one-dimensional cartoon characters instead of crudely-drawn but realistic people was the beginning of the death of the show. The first five seasons, Homer wasn't the brightest, but he loved his kids and wanted to do his best for them, Lisa was a precocious girl, but still just a 6-year old whose lack of life experience usually ended up with her learning things the hard way and being wrong because things aren't as black and white as a 6-year old thinks, Bart was an energetic boy who tried to be good, but just couldn't stop himself from doing stuff he shouldn't, and Marge was a worry-wart but still a loving and functioning mom.

One benchmark for me to judge a Simpsons episode is basically to ask if the season 3 version of a character would have done what the version in the episode did, and the established Homer wasn't the kind of father who would connect so profoundly with one of his kids in a way he and they clearly longed for, and then deliberately throw that away. The "real" Homer would have endured the pain that came with the intelligence just to be there for Lisa and understand her better.
 
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How long until we get a Kiwi Farms reference in the show?
Also why the fuck do the writers keep using patty and selma for these self declared "feminist" episodes? Its like the 3rd time I have seen this shit happen in the last couple years. Maybe its in Kavner's contract that they get more screentime so she can make the most use of her mutilated voicebox
Probably because they're unattractive single women who hate Homer.
 
There were far, FAR better ways they could have done it that would have kept the characters true to themselves, like Lisa getting upset about not being in the spotlight and putting a crayon up homer's nose while he sleeps, or Bart doing something that accidentally knocks Homer's IQ back down, but those would all have required writers who actually knew the characters beyond simple outlines and respected the show's prior episodes.
How about Homer's brain being unstable without the crayon? The crayon being there so long had become structural part of his brain so without it Homer has random black outs. Then he and the family have to choose between Homer being smart or healthy. Ultimately after a funny dangerous incident and hearth to heart with Lisa Homer gets the crayon reinserted because as much as he likes being smart, he wants to be there for his family for the long term more.
 
How about Homer's brain being unstable without the crayon? The crayon being there so long had become structural part of his brain so without it Homer has random black outs. Then he and the family have to choose between Homer being smart or healthy. Ultimately after a funny dangerous incident and hearth to heart with Lisa Homer gets the crayon reinserted because as much as he likes being smart, he wants to be there for his family for the long term more.
Better yet, they could do an episode where Lisa gets a crayon stuck in her brain and actually becomes a likable character for once.
 
Christ, you people are arguing about an episode from long after the series was any good. There’s no amount of lipstick you can slap on to change the fact the episode is fundamentally a pig.
 
I rewatched an old classic for spooky season...
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I have some questions.
Who wrote this book?
And for what purpose? Is there really a market for a book just to cook a single specific child?
How did they create these recipes in the first place when the primary ingredient is still currently alive?

Still a great episode. I'm just being an autist lol.
Dream episode where Bart's unconsciousness spoiled which kid is getting eaten next.
 
Regardless of when you think the rot started, the Simpsons stayed consistently good or at least decent longer than most shows ever get to even run and well after most rot to the point of total shittiness. Not to mention outlasting the family sitcoms it was initially a parody of and effectively building the modern adult cartoon genre.

It should really just be allowed to die at this point though, it's getting really sad to see how old the actors are getting and how dogshit the quality is.
 
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