Careercow Elon Reeve Musk - Tesla, SpaceX and Twitter owner + ex-paypal CEO. Manchild, sexual deviant, spergy autist with access to space travel

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Elon vs Donald, who will be triumphant?

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If you convince him that it'll piss off his father, he might.
Bonus points if he gets to name the kid something leet.
He doesn’t fuck to make kids.

Elon's also a pretty bad father and its telling that the pitch for his robot scam (since all those robots he presented are remote controlled) is that they can take care of kids

And Elon doesn't really seem like a family man unless whenever its convenient for him. Like his bad parenting probably played a role in his kid transitioning.

Its very funny that Elon went on a whole crusade against transgenderism and then does this

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The fact that the one kid he’s been shown on TV with is the one he’s keeping from Grimes tells you everything. His kids aren’t people they’re pawns.
 
Telsa is THE electric car manufacturer with a hundred billion in revenue a year. SpaceX is THE American space program. NeuraLink is mostly unproven but extremely promising. Somewhat functional? Just total haterade horseshit.
Tesla revenue is nothing special. It is extremely overvalued for what it is, mostly based on hype around autopilot and investor FOMO.
Throwing massive numbers around without any context is meaningless btw.

SpaceX was almost bankrupt untill Starlink started pumping money.

NeuraLink seems cool, but Musk constantly over promises of what it is. Also, it is run by actual experts from industry.
You should look up what a subsidy is. The government paying for an service the public needs, like launching satellites, isn't a subsidy.
A subsidy, subvention or government incentive is a type of government expenditure for individuals and households, as well as businesses with the aim of stabilizing the economy. It ensures that individuals and households are viable by having access to essential goods and services while giving businesses the opportunity to stay afloat and/or competitive.
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Sounds like subsidy to me? Also that's just arguing semantics.

You are ignoring main point. Musk ventures are nothing special, and in many cases have nothing to do with Musks genius.
Musk is not an engineer, Musk is not a scientist. He isn't even competent software developer.
He pays his way into promising businesses and then starts to over-promise what the technology can deliver to pump investments.

Valuation of Tesla is entirely made by his cult of personality, and that's also his main source of wealth.
There is no autopilot to justify it, there is no battery swapping. EVs are losing momentum everywhere.

You guys are trying so hard to pretend that Elon is dumb and a failure because you are in your feelings, but the case you present is laughable.
Never said Elon is failure. I applause his ability to fuck over clueless tech-bros who think technology is fucking magic.
It is pretty funny how insistent musk fanboys are on bending over for daddy Elon even though he delivers on fraction of what he promises.
 
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You'll own nothing and be happy vs. your car has DRM. This really is going to be an interesting administration. Speaking of which, how high of a position does he need to reach for this thread to be considered political and locked?
 
Elon is a libertarian leaning guy that started moving Right over the Biden administration not giving him the time of the day and his strong opposition to Covid lockdowns back in 2020 that got him the ire of Dems. He then bought twitter and started getting hated by the left even more over his reinstatemenst and approach to speech in the platform. Eventually in 2024 he found in Trump a figure for revenge against the people that hate/oppose him and in the MAGA movement a support structure for him and his ideas. I don't think he planned, envisioned or masterminded getting in bed with Trump for personal or financial advantage in of itself, rather it was a combination of circumstance and spite/hate for the left strong opposition to him that made him support Trump
 
Tesla revenue is nothing special. It is extremely overvalued for what it is, mostly based on hype around autopilot and investor FOMO.
Throwing massive numbers around without any context is meaningless btw.

How can revenue be overvalued? Those are sales numbers. Car sales. Do you understand anything?

SpaceX was almost bankrupt untill Starlink started pumping money.

SpaceX had a financial crunch because of Starship, which doesn't bring in any revenues. That's not surprising, they were never in danger of bankruptcy but they might have had to slow down development of Starship to spread the costs out. As you mentioned SpaceX get huge bucks from the government and is very profitable with it's launches.

NeuraLink seems cool, but Musk constantly over promises of what it is. Also, it is run by actual experts from industry.

Musk overpromises. Everyone knows that. But he also delivers far more than anyone in these spheres.

Sounds like subsidy to me? Also that's just arguing semantics. industry.

It is actually, as you can clearly read, NOT a subsidy when the government pays for a vital service. Semantics deals with the meanings of words, which is important here because you don't seem to know what the meanings of words are and just throw out loaded characterizations that just amount to BAD BAD MEANBAD MANBAD like retards often do.

Musk is not an engineer, Musk is not a scientist. He isn't even competent software developer.
He pays his way into promising businesses and then starts to over-promise what the technology can deliver to pump investments.

Oh wow you mean Musk didn't actually engineer the rockets and electric cars by himself? You're really breaking new ground here. But I bet you anything you got that he had a huge hand in setting the template for what needed to be done (for instance the idea of reusable rockets for reducing costs). I don't think you know anything about his software writing abilities or coding in general honestly. It's just more BAD MAN BAD bullshit from you

Valuation of Tesla is entirely made by his cult of personality, and that's also his main source of wealth.

Tesla is a car company with almost a hundred billion in revenue per year you muppet.

Never said Elon is failure. I applause his ability to fuck over clueless tech-bros who think technology is fucking magic.

First he is a leech sucking off the government teat with "subsidies" and then he is fucking over "clueless tech bros" that have profited enormously from his enterprises. What you are saying is so incisive.

It is pretty funny how insistent musk fanboys are on bending over for daddy Elon even though he delivers on fraction of what he promises.

Hurrrrr why do you like BAD MAN BAD? Are you a ballwasher or something?
 
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How can revenue be overvalued? Those are sales numbers. Car sales. Do you understand anything?
I worded it in retarded way. Obviously I meant Tesla is overvalued for revenue it has.
SpaceX had a financial crunch because of Starship, which doesn't bring in any revenues. That's not surprising, they were never in danger of bankruptcy but they might have had to slow down development of Starship to spread the costs out. As you mentioned SpaceX get huge bucks from the government and is very profitable with it's launches.
SpaceX needed Starlink to become profitable (Archive)
Bankrupcy risk Starship because Starlink V1 is not profitable enough (Archive)
Yeah, without starlink SpaceX would go down under.

Musk overpromises. Everyone knows that. But he also delivers far more than anyone in these spheres.
Hyperloop? Vegas loop? Boring Company? Autopilot/Robo taxis? Battery swapping? Tesla truck?
He throws shit around that's unrelated to what is actually made by competent people at his companies.

He does it now with Tesla Bot to keep the hype up. Which will be retired and replaced once it will be realized that modern tech cannot deliver.
At that point Musk will have new grift, and people like you will eat it up and quickly forgot previous promises.

It is actually, as you can clearly read, NOT a subsidy when the government pays for a vital service. Semantics deals with the meanings of words, which is important here because you don't seem to know what the meanings of words are and just throw out loaded characterizations that just amount to BAD BAD MEANBAD MANBAD like retards often do.
A subsidy [....] It ensures that individuals and households are viable by having access to essential goods and services while giving businesses the opportunity to stay afloat and/or competitive.
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Oh wow you mean Musk didn't actually engineer the rockets and electric cars by himself? You're really breaking new ground here. But I bet you anything you got that he had a huge hand in setting the template for what needed to be done (for instance the idea of reusable rockets for reducing costs). I don't think you know anything about his software writing abilities or coding in general honestly. It's just more BAD MAN BAD bullshit from you
No. I mean he had no part in engineering whatsoever.
Like I said earlier:
He pays his way into promising businesses and then starts to over-promise what the technology can deliver to pump investments.
Idea of reusable rockets is retarded as there is no demand for those. Which is why starlink exists.
Tesla is a car company with almost a hundred billion in revenue per year you muppet.
In 2023, Tesla generated $96.77 billion in annual revenue. With market cap of $865.95B.
In 2023. Toyota generate $307.48 billion in annual revenue. With market cap of $242.40B.
Hundred billion revenue is not that much for that valuation. People are betting on amazing (fucking magic) technology in Teslas that don't exist.

First he is a leech sucking off the government teat with "subsidies" and then he is fucking over "clueless tech bros" that have profited enormously from his enterprises. What you are saying is so incisive.
Both are true. They have not profited anything until stocks are sold. It's just feel good numbers made by speculation. It's almost like crypto.
Musk capitalized on it and sold some of his shares to have actual currency. Forbes (Archive).
If those tech bros were to realize it, the bubble would burst pretty quickly.
Though unlike crypto Tesla is somewhat functional company so there is some value to it, just not that high.

Hurrrrr why do you like BAD MAN BAD? Are you a ballwasher or something?
Stop seething so much. It's bad for your health. And if you are balls deep invested into Tesla there is still time to cut your losses.
 
Sorry but nobody who horks down as much money as he does on government subsidies and government contracts is remotely a libertarian. In practice, he resembles a gibs-fiending nigger than John Galt.
It's because Elon gives himself a libertarian aesthetic, a lot of these people do really.

It's all about presentation than actually believing it
 
In 2023, Tesla generated $96.77 billion in annual revenue. With market cap of $865.95B.
In 2023. Toyota generate $307.48 billion in annual revenue. With market cap of $242.40B.
So, Tesla is valued like a tech company, not a car company.
Could they do better if they partnered with actual car companies with their tech, maybe. It's too early to tell if opening the superchargers will increase their revenue much.

On the other hand the legacy automakers certainly seem to be gearing up with what they think their customers want in an EV. Pickups that look like pickups with gigantic batteries. A plethora of body styles.

I am happy I can now charge at many Tesla chargers even if they are half the speed.
 
Elon’s true genius is getting taxpayers to always pick up the tab for his wacky and autistic ideas. If Nancy Pelosi didn’t own a yuge and bigly chunk of Tesla stock in the 2010s, Tesla would be no different than his competitors like Rivian.
Of the autistic bazillionaires, Bezos is the one who sent William Shatner to space, perhaps one of the most awesome deeds a wealthtard ever did.
 
I'm sure all you Elon fanboys will be really ecstatic in four years when he and whatever other cronies Trump appointed will have drained the coffers and you can all watch them fly off to mars while leaving you behind to choke on smog because the environment is le fucking gay and shit.

Do you have a Greta Thunberg bodypillow?
 

The links you provided literally prove what I was saying. The financial trouble had to do with the production of Starship and not the profitability of SpaceX as a whole.

Hyperloop? Vegas loop? Boring Company? Autopilot/Robo taxis? Battery swapping? Tesla truck?
He throws shit around that's unrelated to what is actually made by competent people at his companies.

You're down so bad for talking points that you listed 3 things that are the same concept (Boring Hyperloop and Vegas Loop)

Let me list some of things he's done:

1. Founded the most successful space exploration company in history
2. Bought out Tesla before they had ever made a car and turned it into the most successful electric car company ever
3. Bought out twitter which was supposedly a financial disaster but as a consequence he is now worth more than ever
4. Helped found OpenAI which revolutionized AI

Idea of reusable rockets is retarded as there is no demand for those. Which is why starlink exists.

Another way to put this is "Elon Musk is smart enough to create a profitable subsidiary business that creates demand for his other business". I really don't get how you think this is an own or something. And half of SpaceX launches have had nothing to do with Starlink.

n 2023, Tesla generated $96.77 billion in annual revenue. With market cap of $865.95B.
In 2023. Toyota generate $307.48 billion in annual revenue. With market cap of $242.40B.
Hundred billion revenue is not that much for that valuation. People are betting on amazing (fucking magic) technology in Teslas that don't exist.

Wow you discovered that the stock valuations of companies don't necessarily align with their real world value, something I already told you. What are you going to do with this info?

Again I don't really see how this is a dig on Musk. More and more reddit tier takes that just feel like grasping at straws.

Both are true. They have not profited anything until stocks are sold. It's just feel good numbers made by speculation. It's almost like crypto.
Musk capitalized on it and sold some of his shares to have actual currency. Forbes (Archive).
If those tech bros were to realize it, the bubble would burst pretty quickly.
Though unlike crypto Tesla is somewhat functional company so there is some value to it, just not that high.

I can't make any sense of what you are trying to say here. The "tech bros" (I'm guessing you're talking about venture capitalists but of course you don't have the words to express yourself) are fucked over because they don't get the money until they sell their stock? LOL so what?

When they realise it, the bubble will burst? When they realize what? What the fuck are you talking about?


Stop seething so much. It's bad for your health. And if you are balls deep invested into Tesla there is still time to cut your losses.

Thanks for your stock advice based solely off of ROCKET MAN BAD. I'm sure I'll take it into consideration.
 
That article mentioned then Elon Musk have a Kodak moment and he's the new sheriff in town.

November 11, 2024

Elon Musk's Kodak moment​

By Don Wilkie


Years ago, Kodak, a long-forgotten company that was once the superpower of photographic film, came up with a brilliant marketing phrase: “The Kodak Moment.” There are very few marketing phrases that withstand the test of time. “The Kodak Moment,” however, made it into the American lexicon: “an occasion suitable for memorializing with a photograph.”

No one could have imagined or foretold that mighty Kodak would one day be relegated to the “dustbin of history.” It was all because of a change in the marketplace. The Goliath of film was slain by a tiny David: a 4” phone that took digital pictures.
Fast forward to 2022. Elon Musk bought 100% of Twitter for cash. Twitter was all his and he could do anything he wanted with it. One of the first things he did was to examine the extent of government influence. The ensuing “Twitter Files” made clear that Twitter had been an arm of the federal government. It had been used to reinforce government positions and squash dissenting opinions. Twitter censorship got so bad that a former president, Donald Trump, was banned from its pages.
 
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