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[Seedling]

So, is it me, or are tariffs becoming a bit more toxic?
I know Trump has talked a lot about it, but I no longer see any clamoring for them.

Pretty sure the reason he's not talking tariffs is because he's busy looking for people to run shit. Also he already won, no reason to announce tarifs to the 4 winds, he can just install them once he actually gets the power to do so

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

He's not even in office lol.

I've seen a lot of this 'day 1' talk after he 'won'. Maybe after Jan 20.

Pretty sure the reason he's not talking tariffs is because he's busy looking for people to run shit. Also he already won, no reason to announce tarifs to the 4 winds, he can just install them once he actually gets the power to do so

It was one of his big talking points; he already has made it very clear with deportations, why not tariffs?

I'm not saying he should announce it, but he already talked about the other things he will do; why not tariffs?

 

[MrJokerRager]

Anyone else is kinda tired of MAGA folks suddenly doom posting about cabinet picks?

WaPo: “Trump is considering X for Y post.”

REEEE!!! The same outlet who constantly lied about Trump, suddenly has insider knowledge and can read Trumps mind!!!

Like come the fuck on folks… These are so obviously just neocon trial balloons.

Sure, I’m not too thrilled with some of the picks so far (ACTUAL picks not pointless speculation from “insiders”.) but let’s take a breather and give Don a chance.

Just the fact that Kushner, Pompeio and Haley are out is a huge relief.

The MSM is looking to influence the picks, as well as shit on picks, that would be legitimately good.

And all of them are enemies to Trump.

Though Newsom visited Boden today.

And tommorrow Boden sees Trump.

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

It hasn't even been a week since the election. There's no reason to seriously consider any of this shit for some time.

 

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Doomer niggers need to do society a solid and kill themselves ASAP.
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[MrJokerRager]

I'm not saying he should announce it, but he already talked about the other things he will do; why not tariffs?

I guess priorities and choose the best hill to die on first.

Deportations are easy to do, and easy for the average pleb to conceputalize.

Since the shitlib and progtard niggerfaggots are running hard cover defense for illegals on both MSNBC and CNN as well as the local news channels.

Even pozzed up city councils in Republican areas are cucking on not wanting them deported.

Tariffs would be a theory ridden slapfight, that would put a lot of people to sleep.

 

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[Breadbassket]

It was one of his big talking points; he already has made it very clear with deportations, why not tariffs?

I'm not saying he should announce it, but he already talked about the other things he will do; why not tariffs?

It may have to do with the fact tariffs can sometimes be a sensitive economic issue to bring up in the USA.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

I gotta say, the cute cartoon government dog reminds me a lot of Shinra's Stamp, from "Final Fantasy 7 Remake". Some leftist fan must be losing their fucking minds right now. lol
"Trump's government is literally fucking Shinra. They got the evil blond guy in charge, they got the propaganda dog. They got the evil elite team of super starts. They don't care about the environment at all! How can you get any more evil that that? Anime is real!"

DOGE's Mysterious Swamp

 

[shekelshoah666]

The SecDef has Deus Vult tattooed on his bicep and you're dooming?

As far as tariffs go they are used in direct negotiations with countries especially trade deficits so probably won't hear much direct from Trump and co until he is in power.

 

[Mark Goldbridge]

What do you mean Vivek has been promoting Trump for years? Ramaswamy has criticized him in the past and only started praising him when he tried to run for president.

Past 2-3

 

[Waifu Denier]

So, is it me, or are tariffs becoming a bit more toxic?
I know Trump has talked a lot about it, but I no longer see any clamoring for them.

Now, I still hope he implements them, but there does seem to be a pullback from them.

Wait until he announces where Lighthizer ends up

 

[Puff]

I guess priorities and choose the best hill to die on first.

Deportations are easy to do, and easy for the average pleb to conceputalize.

Since the shitlib and progtard niggerfaggots are running hard cover defense for illegals on both MSNBC and CNN as well as the local news channels.

Even pozzed up city councils in Republican areas are cucking on not wanting them deported.

Tariffs would be a theory ridden slapfight, that would put a lot of people to sleep.

The tariffs are also a scare tactic to keep companies here, so they're overstated. Also, he's likely negotiating with the countries they'll be against to get concessions in exchange for lower ones

 

[CarlKingofDucks]

Elon plans to make a leaderboard of the dumbest examples of government spending:
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The next four years are going to be so fucking wild. Elong posting a fucking scoreboard of government retardation, tom homan storming your workplace, israel getting even more of our money. Man this shit is gona be so fun to watch.

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

I guess priorities and choose the best hill to die on first.

Deportations are easy to do, and easy for the average pleb to conceputalize.

Since the shitlib and progtard niggerfaggots are running hard cover defense for illegals on both MSNBC and CNN as well as the local news channels.

Even pozzed up city councils in Republican areas are cucking on not wanting them deported.

Tariffs would be a theory ridden slapfight, that would put a lot of people to sleep.

Now I support Deportations as I think they are funny, but to Steelman them.

Deporting millions of people is, first of all, going to be a shit show of logistics, and then there is the issue of the jobs illegals perform that Americans do not want to do for the price.
Republican districts are more affected by this than many others, so there will be a pushback. However, I still support it as it is funny.

And I could be right about tariffs, but I also think there is somewhat of a pullback because more and more seem to understand that tariffs are a tax on Americans and won't fix shit, but again I support it because it is funny.

 

[Chuckwagon]

That's an interesting point: a Trump Dynasty, like the US becoming an Empire from a Republic? Like the Julio-Claudian Dynasty?

Also have to point out with political dynasties in the republic: where are the Washingtons, Adamses, Jeffersons, Jacksons, Lincolns, etc., if it was supposed to be that way since 1776?

The early would-be political dynasties all died out or faded into irrelevance pretty quickly. Mostly they died out, at that. Washington never had any biological children and his only stepson to survive into adulthood died young, before the Revolution was even over. At the most relevant, his step-great-granddaughter Mary Anna Custis married Robert E. Lee.

The Adamses seem to have been the only one to last & retain political relevance (in declining amounts) for a decent length of time. John & his son John Q. were of course both presidents, and John Q.'s son Charles F. Adams Sr. was a prominent Massachusetts politician & diplomat who helped keep the British out of the ACW. Also the Adamses seem to have had a hereditary gene for political retardation that must've also kept them from getting too powerful, because they kept picking the wrong side in American politics: John was a Federalist and got destroyed with that party when they overreached with the Alien & Sedition Acts, JQA was a Federalist and then National Republican/Whig standing against Jackson, and Charles fell out with the Republicans & became a Democrat during that long Republican golden age from 1865 to 1932 which was only broken by two Democrat presidents (Grover Cleveland & Woodrow Wilson).

Jefferson had only two daughters who survived into adulthood, no sons.

Jackson had no kids of his own, and although he did adopt one of his wife's nephews (in other words, someone not even related to him by blood), that guy didn't amount to much in life.

Lincoln's male line of descent ended with his grandson Abraham II, who passed away as a teenager in 1890 or so. Robert Todd Lincoln, his only son to survive into adulthood & Abraham II's dad, must have been one of the unluckiest poor bastards to walk the earth - around for three presidential assassinations - and having also witnessed the early death of his own son, was too depressed to want to play much of a role in politics.

Basically, it took until the 20th century for America to start getting political families that didn't go extinct or cripple their own relevance within a generation to three (Roosevelts, Kennedys, etc.) and by then the republican tradition was too firmly set for anyone to try to overturn. Early American political dynasties were practically mayflies compared to the longevity of European royal & noble houses (or even republican patrician clans like the Cornaros, Veniers, etc. of Venice and Dorias, Giustinianis, etc. of Genoa), but in hindsight that was certainly a blessing for the direction of the country's political culture - couldn't even stick around to turn America into a noble oligarchy where the presidents would all come from only a handful of select families because all the families that could've made such a roster went extinct.

 

[BigJoey41X]

New York Times v. Sullivan (1964) says you're a retarded nigger faggot, as does the Maddow Defense.

The Sullivan case has key differences as to what's going with Alex Jones.

"New York Times v. Sullivan (1964) is a landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision holding that First Amendment freedom of speech protections limit the ability of public officials to sue for defamation. The case emerged out of a dispute over a full-page advertisement run by supporters of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., in The New York Times in 1960. The advertisement described civil rights protests in Montgomery, Alabama, lauded Dr. King’s leadership, and criticized various Southern officials for violating the rights of African Americans. The advertisement contained several factual inaccuracies which became the basis for a suit for defamation by a Montgomery police commissioner. After a jury trial that found in favor of the plaintiff and a denial for the defendants’ motion for a new trial, the Supreme Court of Alabama sustained the holding on appeal, stating that “[t]he First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution does not protect libelous publications.”

1. The plaintiffs were not public officials.
2. Issue was over the publication making several factual inaccuracies.

InfoWars wasn't just being wrong over a couple aspects of a story they published, they made an entire story that was made up, falsifiable, and was proven in a court of law to have caused damages to the plaintiffs.

I actually don't agree with the results of the Maddow v. OAN case, she made exaggerated statements of OAN being "Russian-sponsored propaganda", and when they sued, she made the defense that what she said was an "opinion" and that "viewers would tell that she wasn't making a factual statement", implying that Maddow is a clown that shouldn't be taken seriously by the network she's working for, to which I think is bullshit and allows these mainstream media pundits to say what they want as long as "it's an opinion", like come on.

 

[Seedling]

I'm not saying he should announce it, but he already talked about the other things he will do; why not tariffs?

Its been A WEEK
You'll get to open your tariffs once we get home, until then stay put in the baby seat please

 

[CarlKingofDucks]

Now I support Deportations as I think they are funny, but to Steelman them.

Deporting millions of people is, first of all, going to be a shit show of logistics, and then there is the issue of the jobs illegals perform that Americans do not want to do for the price.
Republican districts are more affected by this than many others, so there will be a pushback. However, I still support it as it is funny.

And I could be right about tariffs, but I also think there is somewhat of a pullback because more and more seem to understand that tariffs are a tax on Americans and won't fix shit, but again I support it because it is funny.

The whole doing jobs americans dont want to do is a retard take. We did shit jobs before we imported labor en masse. Some people will lose their business because they wont be able to afford the wages that americans demand, sucks to be them. But when a fucking fry cook at mcdonalds makes 15 an hour this take becomes even MORE retarded.

Logistically deporting them will be the exceptionally easy part. Its the tracking down and detaining that will be the difficult part. I expect running gunfights in some areas if Homan gets to cut loose like he clearly wants to do.

 

[mlanguishi]

Its been A WEEK
You'll get to open your tariffs once we get home, until then stay put in the baby seat please

Trump is actively picking out his cabinet and we're supposed to get a full tariff explanation? I don't get the complaint.

If anything I'd like to see him explain how it'll be rolled in slowly as a replacement of IRS income taxes. Who the hell demands some full thing now? That's DU leftist level that he has to do it all before even being inaugurated.

Actually, I think that shows the power of Trump. He's basically been in power all this time anyway.