US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[AnotherPleb]

No, Elon voted Biden. He was still just in buisness mode. Then his son trooned out and well... yeah.

I'm still wondering what discord jannies got him. I know if Elon finds out they're dead.

I see more extremism from both the left and the right on X. It’s actually crazy town over there compared to A&N. How many feds are perusing their posts? Probably a whole office floor of feds.

AnN tends to collate information fairly well, so I've never been surprised by fedboys being here. This was one of the few places you could see the Christchurch shooting on the Internet.

In 2016, he was on an economic council that advised Trump and they had a falling out.

I'm wondering if he wasn't told to fuck off by his friends at a party

 

[Puff]

You're too ignorant, retarded, and black, to understand US law.

Why did you say the same thing three times?

 

[BigJoey41X]

Trump's economic policies and positions make it virtually impossible for prices to see long term rises. I don't think you, or the majority of Americans for that matter, understand how much red tape and manufactured taxes there are in the US just to prevent manufacturing. Companies wouldn't be sending millions of dollars worth of wooden chairs to China just for some random chink sweatshop to screw the cushions in if it wasn't for a good reason. It's not because they have cheap labor. That's the midwit take. It's 2024 and I can have a cushion screwing machine designed and constructed. If it made sense, I'd never have to pay these chinks or the good ole boys in Burgerland. No, it's because there's tariffs and fines implemented into government legislation that costs me millions if I don't send these chairs overseas to have cushions screwed in. We wouldn't waste all this money if it didn't make sense. Yet, you have multiple alphabet agencies levying tariffs and fines like the fucking mafiosa to punish businesses that are American manufacturers. In addition, they're receiving benefits and tax breaks for pushing their businesses overseas.

That's why middle America is dead. Trump during his first term undid a lot of this red tape. Biden immediately put them all back. That's why his economy succeeded. America's Federal government is literally fining and taxing businesses into poverty. All you faggots huffing and puffing about tariffs need to remind yourselves of this.

I do believe that we shouldn't have shifted so much manufacturing over to China to the point they had to become our biggest trading partner, the urban Midwest took a big hit in their economies in the decades that followed deindustrialization, and it ultimately hurt us in the long-term.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Year Of The Chud.
Olympiad Of The Chud.
Decade Of The Chud.
Century Of The Chud!
Millennium Of The Chud!
Myriad Of The Chud!
Kalpa Of The FUCKING CHUD!

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Trump is actively picking out his cabinet and we're supposed to get a full tariff explanation? I don't get the complaint.

Be patient, he suffers from being Eurpoean

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

The whole doing jobs americans dont want to do is a retard take. We did shit jobs before we imported labor en masse. Some people will lose their business because they wont be able to afford the wages that americans demand, sucks to be them. But when a fucking fry cook at mcdonalds makes 15 an hour this take becomes even MORE retarded.

Have you ever done farm work? It sucks.
There is no way you will get people to work for 15 dollars an hour on backbreaking, hard work when you could be a fry cook. So, mega farming corporations take over, as they have the machines and cost of scale. In return, prices go up. If you are okay with paying more for necessities, then cool.

Like I said, I want deportations; they are funny.

That's because everyone falls for the absolute midwit tier take that tariffs cause inflation. The problem is that our society is so economically illiterate, they're incapable of seeing how stupid that is. Nobody seems to understand how expensive overseas shipping is. Domestic manufacturing is so much better for everyone. You cannot be a nation relying solely on imports. It is completely impossible, even for a state thats the world's currency. It simply cannot be done. The idea the US can manufacture nothing is absolutely fucking ludicrous and can only be explained by a thinly veiled attempt to destroy the US. Tariffs will not impact you. Trump's aim is to lower taxes on you, and using tariffs to bolster revenue.

There are so many issues with this.
A country should try to encourage companies to stay and manufacture in the domestic market; pure import is not good. I agree, but tariffs are not going to fix this.

If tariffs are enacted, they will only limit American trade and likely lower revenue over time. Some manufacturing will rise in the US, but every time that happens, it lowers the revenue from the tariffs, so then what?

Then, there is the issue of the cost of individual parts, especially from low-overhead products. Takes screws, for example, right now you can get them cheap and in bulk from China and Germany at a low price. While you can make the same screws in the US, the issue is now that the external competitors are gone, and US firms have fewer options for the resources they need to make them, so the price will go up as there is less competition in the market.

Right now, there is massive competition within the market, so if German screws are too expensive, I can buy American screws or Chinese.

Be patient, he suffers from being Eurpoean

It is shit a clock at night, I was only wondering as every thing else is spoken about, but nothing about "We will do terrifs"

 

[Seedling]

the issue is now that the external competitors are gone, and US firms have fewer options for the resources they need to make them, so the price will go up as there is less competition in the market.

External output is replaced by internal output. how is the lack of variety hurting US firms?
Sure they no longer say "made in china" but its not like there's going to be only one screw factory in the whole US

 

[Not Really Here]

Why did you say the same thing three times?

Watch this.

but no, I didn't see anything about Zimmerman being a "public figure"

It's right here retard.

failed to show the network acted with malice.

Alleviate your ignorance, readnigger.gif

According to the public figure doctrine, prominent public persons must prove actual malice on the part of the news media in order to prevail in a libel lawsuit. Actual malice is the knowledge of falsity or reckless disregard of whether a statement is true or false. The public figure doctrine makes it possible for publishers to provide information on public issues to the debating public, undeterred by the threat of liability.

The public figure doctrine as it relates to defamation actions had its origin in New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (U.S. 1964).

Public Figure Doctrine Law
You seem black, so I'll predict your next post-

Public figure? Sullivan said politician in office!

Then I'll post this-

public figure​

A public figure, according to Gertz v. Robert Welch, is an individual who has assumed roles of especial prominence in the affairs of a society or thrust themselves into the forefront of particular public controversies to influence the resolution of the issues involved. Public figures also include individuals who have achieved pervasive fame or notoriety. Whether a party is a public figure is a question of law for the court. Public figures who wish to recover for injury to reputation must establish that the defendant acted with actual malice. Actual malice requires clear and convincing evidence that the defamatory falsehood was made with knowledge of its falsity or with reckless disregard for the truth.

Wex

That's why I said ignorant, retarded, and black @Puff

 

[Manimal House]

I'm kinda amused that California voted to make a slave out of anyone that steals an iphone.

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

External output is replaced by internal output. how is the lack of variety hurting US firms?
Sure they no longer say "made in china" but its not like there's going to be only one screw factory in the whole US

Yes, but if an internal input is not the same price as the external one. Now there are more screw manufacturers in America doing their thing, but if you cut away outside competition and limit it to internal, you also see consolidation and monopolizing.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Ironic how it seems SJWs react to Trump win the way it's claimed non-SJWs "alt-right" would've reacted to a hypothetical Harris win.*

* Which I think would have realistically been more of a disappointment or "it's all so tiresome" on average, rather than derangement.

 

[tehpope]

Anyone else is kinda tired of MAGA folks suddenly doom posting about cabinet picks?

WaPo: “Trump is considering X for Y post.”

REEEE!!! The same outlet who constantly lied about Trump, suddenly has insider knowledge and can read Trumps mind!!!

Like come the fuck on folks… These are so obviously just neocon trial balloons.

Sure, I’m not too thrilled with some of the picks so far (ACTUAL picks not pointless speculation from “insiders”.) but let’s take a breather and give Don a chance.

Just the fact that Kushner, Pompeio and Haley are out is a huge relief.

People were bitching about JD when he got announced. And look how he's done. I'm not feeling these picks right now. But I'm gonna have to wait and see how they perform.

 

[Seedling]

Yes, but if an internal input is not the same price as the external one.

Yeah, this is the whole point of tariffs.
They tax external chinese screws so they are forced to raise the price to stop operating at a loss, they tax them so they are on an even field to locally produced screws.

Now there are more screw manufacturers in America doing their thing, but if you cut away outside competition and limit it to internal, you also see consolidation and monopolizing.

Pretty sure internal brands will still compete with each other, the only thing happening is that the external chinese businesses can't undermine internal production by selling their product at 1/10th of the price

 

[MrJokerRager]

Washington never had any biological children

You telling me that the guy was 100 percent dedicated to pulling out?

Given what he accomplished.

 

[Not Really Here]

I'm kinda amused that California voted to make a slave out of anyone that steals an iphone.

This is a stream run by a Georgia lawyer, the main guest is a Jew defending a rap nigger in a case so retarded it's on its third judge.
I've timestamped it when his second guest joins, she's a lawyer from California, her theory is the citizens were so fed up with disguised soft on crime measures, they just voted against it out of fear it was a trick.
She also says California doesn't have the budget to fight Trump in court, and the special session Newsome called is an attempt to find money for the fight.

https://www.youtube.com/live/yNIw5igyfGk?feature=shared&t=1700

 

[Fapcop]

People were bitching about JD when he got announced. And look how he's done. I'm not feeling these picks right now. But I'm gonna have to wait and see how they perform.

I’d recommend any to check out the latest episode of The Duran.

https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/the-duran-podcast/id1442883993?i=1000676687073

Even IF he appoints a neocon, there’s a world of difference between 2016 Trump who’s totally new to DC, and 2024 Trump who’s more experienced and knows where the knives will be coming from.

You could bullshit 2016 Trump and slowwalk shit. That time is over.

 

[barrow greeter]

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[indomitable snowman]

Kill Tony dabbed on his haters.

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Does he have a Stargate behind him?

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A microcosm of what her administrations fiscal policy would have been. Will be really funny if this fucks over dem fundraising for a while.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Anyone else is kinda tired of MAGA folks suddenly doom posting about cabinet picks?

As long as the candidates are competent, not "woke", and not (too) corrupt, it should be good.

 

[barrow greeter]

as far as I see, Trump is appointing a bunch of ultra-zionists so far

ultra zionists = lets kill all the brown babies and laugh about it because Israel bitches