Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[grenouille crétine]

i don’t know how to approach this because frankly part of me doesn’t even want to know the truth, it might hurt too much and feel like too much of a violation. but here i am, sitting in the dark, still thinking about it.

You can breathe. Do you have a significant other or pets? (ETA: I read but somehow did not process you saying you’re married, sorry!) You don’t have to tell them what’s on your mind yet, but I would seek them out today for some physiological regulation/positive connection, and focus on your heartbeats and breathing.

If you do not have either, are not comfortable with or do not feel like this would not help you process the physical, emotional reaction your body is probably struggling to keep down right now, find a quiet safe place and try doing a yoga pose to regulate your own breathing, with the benefit of a physically engaging pose. If you already do yoga, pick your favorite pose you can comfortably hang out in for several minutes. If not, I might recommend child’s pose, downward dog plus 3-legged dog, savasana/corpse pose, and/or if you’d like to have a video guiding you through a few, a “root to rise” routine, which is what it sounds like—you spend time both laying down as well as standing and stretching upward, and you gently cycle through them.

I hope this does not come across like woowoo hippie preaching or frivolous, unwelcome information—obviously the intellectual process of dealing with the news you got will be a painful road, and thinking about it must happen, eventually. Hopefully you are able to process and just move on, horrific as the implications are. I am recommending all of these simple things focusing inward because you can probably expect some ugly crying (which is good for you and cathartic, in these cases) and you may not even be able to relax into any of these activities without the emotion suddenly hitting you. But you will be ok.

 

[Appletuncrusader]

I’m curious about what you farmers think it is that drives these people to vaguepost about, and announce they are taking their hormones to people. Especially in spaces where they’ve been accepted with no issue.

It has been a long time since I checked or posted here, and thankfully nobody else I know has succumbed to troonism (as far as I know), but fucking shit look at all these pages, where does this shit end?

 

[Baraadmirer]

I’m curious about what you farmers think it is that drives these people to vaguepost about, and announce they are taking their hormones to people. Especially in spaces where they’ve been accepted with no issue.

When someone announces that they're taking cross-sex hormones, the expected response in those circles is to coo over how amazing it is for them to take the next step in their transition. This person also gets a similar response if they decide to go under the knife.

 

[Palm Tree Corpse]

I don't know if this is the best thread to put this in
BUT
I have a preteen niece with a severe internet addiction and it's resulted in her becoming increasingly preoccupied with sexuality, pronouns, etc... How do I make it stop before it's too late?

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

I don't know if this is the best thread to put this in
BUT
I have a preteen niece with a severe internet addiction and it's resulted in her becoming increasingly preoccupied with sexuality, pronouns, etc... How do I make it stop before it's too late?

A large part of what did it for me was meeting other ftms and realising that they were not making good life choices generally and I probably shouldn't be doing what they were doing. Could you offer to drive (aka supervise) her to a meetup or something like that so that she realises early on how awkward and weird a lot of these people are?

Do you know which site she's mostly getting this stuff through? is it youtube, tiktok or tumblr? It might be worth trying to sneak her devices away from her and changing her algorithm for a bit.

 

[Palm Tree Corpse]

A large part of what did it for me was meeting other ftms and realising that they were not making good life choices generally and I probably shouldn't be doing what they were doing. Could you offer to drive (aka supervise) her to a meetup or something like that so that she realises early on how awkward and weird a lot of these people are?

Do you know which site she's mostly getting this stuff through? is it youtube, tiktok or tumblr? It might be worth trying to sneak her devices away from her and changing her algorithm for a bit.

We don't live in an area where those things happen, for better or for worse.
The thing about her is she has ODD and some other mental issues. Anything that seems like a bad life decision would be incredibly appealing to her.

I will definitely spend some time trying to rework her algorithms as well as see what exactly she is using. I'm almost certain it's TikTok, but I believe she also has Discord.

 

[Hojicha]

I don't know if this is the best thread to put this in
BUT
I have a preteen niece with a severe internet addiction and it's resulted in her becoming increasingly preoccupied with sexuality, pronouns, etc... How do I make it stop before it's too late?

I had this problem with my cousin, she's about 9 yrs or so younger than me. My advantage is that I'm within her cool kid bracket of understanding the culture shit. So I'm not so old I can't be told I'm an old fart. Also, her father is a workaholic wheatthin and her mother is a depressed hypocondriac. She needs and has needed a healthy and good female role model to look up to. She's artsy and in college, so there's no help for her there either.

I am healthy. I like myself. I'm not a whore, nor am I constantly screeching about equality. I'm artsy. I have made her know I am here for her, and I always am vocal about how men will never know what it's like to be a woman. They can't ever. Being there for them and being a consistent example of what they COULD be without the insanity is the best cure. And when they do approach you about these topics, knowing how to respond with sense helps. It will come up eventually, and asking them to even define what a woman or a man is is very funny because they will throw themselves off a bridge trying to figure it out what to say without having a hole poked into their answer.

 

[grenouille crétine]

I'm almost certain it's TikTok, but I believe she also has Discord.

TikTok scares me because it normalizes children filming themselves doing artificial trends they don’t understand with no parental supervision, so I pray for your sake she is only watching those stupid videos and not also making them. Do her parents know how bad those platforms are for child safety? Do you think you or them can get access to her friends list and groups before she hides everything? Children should not be on the internet, especially not unsupervised on grooming apps with very opaque safety standards.

Being there for them and being a consistent example of what they COULD be without the insanity is the best cure.

Ding ding ding! And get that poor kid off the internet and into some sports or other hobbies. Kids can be protected from the creeps seeking to harm them. The grooming apparatus is still strong, though.

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

We don't live in an area where those things happen, for better or for worse.
The thing about her is she has ODD and some other mental issues. Anything that seems like a bad life decision would be incredibly appealing to her.

I will definitely spend some time trying to rework her algorithms as well as see what exactly she is using. I'm almost certain it's TikTok, but I believe she also has Discord.

I don't know too much about Discord but it's brought up a lot here as basically groomer central. Do you think you could talk with her parents and maybe block her from being able to access any discord address?

 

[Palm Tree Corpse]

Thanks everyone for the advice. She's going to have some new rules IRT technology in the future. No TikTok, and only using her devices in common areas of the house. She apparently hasn't been able to make a Discord account after I deleted the last one months ago, thank God.

The rest of it really comes down to me as a role model, being the only older female in the household. But I'm also an authority figure in her eyes which mixes with her ODD just as well as oil mixes with water. I'm going to have to let up a bit, but if all is well we will be having girls' nights soon enough.

 

[Hojicha]

Thanks everyone for the advice. She's going to have some new rules IRT technology in the future. No TikTok, and only using her devices in common areas of the house. She apparently hasn't been able to make a Discord account after I deleted the last one months ago, thank God.

The rest of it really comes down to me as a role model, being the only older female in the household. But I'm also an authority figure in her eyes which mixes with her ODD just as well as oil mixes with water. I'm going to have to let up a bit, but if all is well we will be having girls' nights soon enough.

This good!! Monitor all internet usage and for the love of god keep her away from Discord.

Imo ODD is...They need to know they are in good hands, that's really all ODD is imo. I had ODD in my teenage years (we all do to an extent) because the adults around me literally could not be trusted for judgement. You're doing great. Or the best you can do, at least. Good on yo and goodluck. Start presenting her with how wonderful it is to become an old woman too, we all become old women some day and society scares us about it.

 

[Slideshow Bill]

To be 100% clear, his porn situation is really, really bad, and the biggest reason I'm kind of out of hope. The first time I asked him to curb his porn addiction, his reaction was basically to laugh and say 'no way, that's too hard'.

It was beyond over right there, at that exact moment. I know it's hard and you love him (or who he used to be) but for your sake, dump him on the curb and wait for bulk pickup.

 

[OttoWest]

I don't know if this is the best thread to put this in
BUT
I have a preteen niece with a severe internet addiction and it's resulted in her becoming increasingly preoccupied with sexuality, pronouns, etc... How do I make it stop before it's too late?

I know you’ve addressed some new internet rules for your niece. I just wanted to add In my family to get away from constant scrolling we have “no phone time” when we do crafts or watch a movie— something where you’ve got to use your hands or pay attention. Even the grown ups put their phones away.

Try to find things to do together that don’t allow her to sit and scroll even if it’s just a walk or a drive. Get the kid excited about a hobby like making jewelry or doing diamond paintings.

And if she asks questions, talk to her about it. Be appropriate but be real. One of the best stories in this thread a year or so back was from a kiwi who found that gently ridiculing the beliefs (not the people) in their teen’s burgeoning gender cult was a good way to get a skeptical but vulnerable kid to open up and see the absurdities.

 

[You're MDNWU]

I don't know if this is the best thread to put this in
BUT
I have a preteen niece with a severe internet addiction and it's resulted in her becoming increasingly preoccupied with sexuality, pronouns, etc... How do I make it stop before it's too late?

Got a big TV?

Sit her down. Grab some popcorn. Turn on Metokur's How the Sausage is made.

Give her some good insight in to modern fads.

 

[Palm Tree Corpse]

Got a big TV?

Sit her down. Grab some popcorn. Turn on Metokur's How the Sausage is made.

Give her some good insight in to modern fads.

Holy shit.

 

[seri0us]

Holy shit.

"Seeing is believing", as they say.

 

[You're MDNWU]

Holy shit.

There's only so much one can do to limit someone else from these types of things, that's just a more "extreme" way.

Can delete their Discord; they'll just make a new one, use a burner email, burner accounts, etc.
Can remove their tablet, phone, watch, etc; they still have friends or people at school.
Can somehow someway monitor them 24/7; defiance will hit hard and now you're doubly fucked.

If her parents aren't willing/unable to, get her in to activities. Sports, music, hell cooking or baking, anything really. Maximize the amount of time that can limit her doing the dumb things while also getting her around kids her age and ideally not also doing dumb things. Check your local community center website for things. Relatively cheap for the most part.

But at the end of the day, they'll typically find a way and read or be told what they wanna hear or be told by "cooler" people than mom/dad/auntie. She's obviously hearing and seeing it from someone unless her parents are the ones bringing it all up.

The Sausage video should be saved for when/if she decides she wants to poon out. At that age, boring as hell statistics don't really matter. What matters is the immediate understanding of, "Oh shit, this is actually a horrible idea" before going through it and THEN realizing it. The horror thread is also an option as it highlights all the negative and disregards all the 'Yas queen/kang' ass pats found on Redditt.

 

[666NASTYFUCKINGFREAK666]

there are way too many trannies in the military lol

My sponsor to my first unit was a MtF and he got out soon after; it was my first time actually dealing with a tranny and he was my supervisor and it was so fucking uncomfortable.

I got moved to another section to fuck with satellites and this one dude came in and he was really cool. 6'4 huge ass ginger dude and we talked about TF2 (lol) then I was in the hospital for a little bit and I came out and the motherfucker had a womans first name on his email and he had a tiny little ponytail on the back of his head, so fucking wild. That one kinda hurt because he was one of the few people I liked there beyond surface level bs.

 

[Zhores Medvedev]

I mentioned it in one of the other threads, but I had some friends of mine kill themselves. Both were biological women but got caught up in the trans shit. Its been a many years now and they were not really the most pleasant to be around towards the end, but I still think about them every now and again. They were both kind of outcasts, shy, nerdy and really into webcomics. They also had really shitty home lives, but that's to be expected. Question for any in the thread. Have you ever talked anyone out of this genderspecial shit? What did and didn't work? Was there a way you approached the subject that got through to them? Sometimes I think if I had said something, they might still be around.(I mean I did TRY to talk to them but that yielded fuck all).

They were such good artists and so fun to be around. I miss them sometimes.

 

[Patty Q. Anonlinson]

there are way too many trannies in the military lol

My sponsor to my first unit was a MtF and he got out soon after; it was my first time actually dealing with a tranny and he was my supervisor and it was so fucking uncomfortable.

I got moved to another section to fuck with satellites and this one dude came in and he was really cool. 6'4 huge ass ginger dude and we talked about TF2 (lol) then I was in the hospital for a little bit and I came out and the motherfucker had a womans first name on his email and he had a tiny little ponytail on the back of his head, so fucking wild. That one kinda hurt because he was one of the few people I liked there beyond surface level bs.

How do people like that get the idea of trooning out? I also know a freakishly tall guy who's starting to grow his hair out long in a concerning way (he's also always been kinda shit-lib political).

I wonder is porn just enough to do it?