Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Ingmar Aspergman]

I don’t know if this is on topic but I think it’s related enough. A few days ago, a friend hit me up and was obviously upset about something. I guessed that she thought she is trans because she mentioned it before; I was right. She was very hesitant to open up about it because she knows my opinions on transitioning. The thing is: she said she would rather be dead than transition because she knows it won’t give her what she wants. She is gender dysphoric but refuses to be trans, she just remains suicidal over it. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone be in this position, and it made me realize how fucked they would be. She would get no support, I don’t know what a therapist would say to her, and what can she really do about it besides try to cope with it? I suggested maybe a “healthier” approach to gender nonconformity like putting on a little muscle, but she shot that down.

I already guessed that’s what she was feeling because of her other mental health issues, it just made me realize that there’s basically nothing out there for her to look to for guidance. I’m sure there’s more people like her out there. This may be unpopular on here, but I do believe gender dysphoria exists and sounds miserable to me, but I can’t see the trans shit as the solution.

Also, if you were truly dysphoric, why would you transition? That must be “better than nothing” in their minds, but that veil is profoundly fragile which explains a lot of their behavior.

Sorry, this was a bit of a ramble but I just wish I had more to help her with.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

The thing is: she said she would rather be dead than transition because she knows it won’t give her what she wants.

You know the mental health profession is completely and utterly pozzed when they think it's so terrible to do anything else but encourage people in their worst proclivities.

No sympathy for the gender dysphoric who are smart enough to realize that the whole concept of transgenderism is a sham and won't bring them happiness.

No sympathy for the porn addict who wants that garbage out of his life.

No sympathy for the same-sex attracted who wishes to abstain from homosexuality.

No, the doctors will just tell you to do the very thing which makes you miserable in the first place.

 

[666NASTYFUCKINGFREAK666]

How do people like that get the idea of trooning out? I also know a freakishly tall guy who's starting to grow his hair out long in a concerning way (he's also always been kinda shit-lib political).

I wonder is porn just enough to do it?

No idea; it’s so wild. It really is mental illness and as much as it is the predatory type it breaks me seeing guys do that.

Also in my original story I ran into my MtF sponsor in the men’s restroom in his beach blonde wig and we made contact which was lulzy as fuck

 

[Paper Machete]

No idea; it’s so wild. It really is mental illness and as much as it is the predatory type it breaks me seeing guys do that.

It's the autism. You guys both also pointed out they're super tall. Well, being super tall seems to correlate with autismo which in turn correlates with being the largest risk factor for troonery. I guess it makes sense in a way. Autistics like making lists of things, strict categories, and developmental disorders/delays often have problems sexually, so it's easy to see how that basket of crazy works with trannies. Some of them might've been encouraged to join up by their families in the hopes it would fix them by forcing them into a masculine job with discipline and shiet (lol, lmao).

 

[Snack Cracker]

I just want to add that my troon ex husband recently changed his name from Alice (lmfao) to Jazmyne and has been spotted at the local swingers club.

They’re all coomers, when I was young and dumb and naive I didn’t see anything weird about the sissy stuff he was into even though I was uncomfortable with it, and he was into the trap threads on 4chan but again I chalked it up to him being bisexual.

He switched to women’s underwear after a point and would send me pictures of him in the work bathroom with them on.

He also molested a child (he was 22 she was fresh 13) and got away with it.

Don’t ever date bisexual men or men who say you can do their makeup as a joke or men who say they like to look pretty as a joke sometimes.
It’s not a joke, and they’ll eventually troon on you,
Bisexual men (and especially coomer men) can’t be fixed or trusted to not troon out.

Also wonder if he changed his name legally to get away from that molestation case and his past drug abuse.

They’re fucking rotted inside

 

[nonespecified]

Just wanted to say: Limit her exposure to LBGT spaces. It may seem like an idea to push her towards those (“she’ll make friends!”) but don’t. They’re full of tranny bullshit these days, and full of groomers.

Also: Watch out for groomers. They come in all forms these days: Boys who want sex, girls who want other girls to be miserable. Teachers and adults who present themselves as a shoulder to cry on, while looking for converts to the cult.

And watch her SM. Discord is especially known for being a pooner/tranny cesspit.

I know you’re not that close, but maybe you can judge her parents in the right direction.

Discord and Minecraft are what trapped my daughter. Thankfully she's seemingly past that, and she thanks my wife and I PROFUSELY for not walking her down the transition path immediately like she wanted us to at the time. I've talked about it previously in this thread, but to sum it up:

It was a big fight, when she decided she was transgender. We had just found out she was being sexually exploited and blackmailed by a grown-ass man at 12 years old over discord, and she started making very odd requests like shaving one side of her head and piercings which we of course shot down as gently as we could, using a lot of delaying tactics like "Send me photos of what you're talking about" and "Your mother and I will talk about it next weekend when we're out." We immediately killed her discord and took her phone, but still over the next few months she was really obviously heading down the transgender pipeline.

I got suspicious and poked around on her computer and figured out she was on some transgender MInecraft server and seemed to be pressured into doing weird-ass sexual roleplay there, so we killed her computer access except for a laptop in the kitchen when she needed to do homework. That led to some real wacky screaming fits where the whole neighborhood heard how she was really a man and etc. At that point I figured I needed to bump the "supportive but confused old man" routine up to 11 and started asking her for "sources" for some of her statements, asked her to "find a therapist to help her walk through all this", etc. I knew she'd never actually spend the time to find a therapist, and for every one of her "sources" that told her about how amazing HRT would be, how a binder could change her life, how just incredible reassignment surgery was, my wife and I would send her a link about bone density problems, "weird arm scars", zippertits, how binders would make your boobs look fucked up, "Does HRT do anything to make you taller? It seems like all the trans men I've seen online are still really short." "It doesn't seem like a lot of these people are any better off psychologicaly than before they had surgery, they just made things worse." "Is this what girls really think guys look like? I've never seen ANYTHING that looked like this on a guy" "Oh no, this poor girl changed her mind and she's stuck with this voice and hair on her boobs."

Really my wife and I just subtly undermined her convictions and the advice she was getting from shitty people on shitty internet places, under the guise of "I'm supportive, let's make sure we know everything we need to know so we can do this right!"

Thank god the gamble paid off.

 

[Fapcop]

Discord and Minecraft are what trapped my daughter. Thankfully she's seemingly past that, and she thanks my wife and I PROFUSELY for not walking her down the transition path immediately like she wanted us to at the time. I've talked about it previously in this thread, but to sum it up:

Holy fucking shit what a nightmare.

Glad you straightened her out!

 

[glass_houses]

I don’t know if this is on topic but I think it’s related enough. A few days ago, a friend hit me up and was obviously upset about something. I guessed that she thought she is trans because she mentioned it before; I was right. She was very hesitant to open up about it because she knows my opinions on transitioning. The thing is: she said she would rather be dead than transition because she knows it won’t give her what she wants. She is gender dysphoric but refuses to be trans, she just remains suicidal over it. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone be in this position, and it made me realize how fucked they would be. She would get no support, I don’t know what a therapist would say to her, and what can she really do about it besides try to cope with it? I suggested maybe a “healthier” approach to gender nonconformity like putting on a little muscle, but she shot that down.

I already guessed that’s what she was feeling because of her other mental health issues, it just made me realize that there’s basically nothing out there for her to look to for guidance. I’m sure there’s more people like her out there. This may be unpopular on here, but I do believe gender dysphoria exists and sounds miserable to me, but I can’t see the trans shit as the solution.

Also, if you were truly dysphoric, why would you transition? That must be “better than nothing” in their minds, but that veil is profoundly fragile which explains a lot of their behavior.

Sorry, this was a bit of a ramble but I just wish I had more to help her with.

It's an awful position to be in, having genuine dysphoria at this point in time. It's a huge relief that your friend is smart enough to know that drugs and surgery are far from a magic cure.

Has your friend talked to you about any bad experiences? Many individuals who've a history of abuse have benefited greatly from an intense sport or workout routine; the more time spent pushing their body, the more they feel in control of it.

 

[Ingmar Aspergman]

Has your friend talked to you about any bad experiences?

She’s had bad experiences since I’ve known her, but she told she she dreamed she was a boy for as long as she can remember. I tried to suggest some kind of physical activity but I like what you said about learning to have greater control of your own body.

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

I wonder is porn just enough to do it?

Autismo + porno + online hugboxes = transgenderism

Without the internet there would 99.99% fewer trannies. At least that's my theory.

 

[soup peddler]

Update to my boyfriend trooning out... for a while I was just going to end it, but there have been personal developments, and instead I'm moving out of our apartment to go home and help my mom with the family business after she hurt her back, since I can do work + school remotely for a semester. Essentially I'm going to be totally untethered to him, will have a totally separate in-person support system, and from that point will be in a more neutral situation to decide if I want to continue to try to help him out of this or just end things.

 

[glass_houses]

Update to my boyfriend trooning out... for a while I was just going to end it, but there have been personal developments, and instead I'm moving out of our apartment to go home and help my mom with the family business after she hurt her back, since I can do work + school remotely for a semester. Essentially I'm going to be totally untethered to him, will have a totally separate in-person support system, and from that point will be in a more neutral situation to decide if I want to continue to try to help him out of this or just end things.

Best of luck, and I hope your mum recovers swiftly. It's not exactly a great situation overall, but the extra space and breathing room is exactly what you need right now.

 

[Kiislova]

Essentially I'm going to be totally untethered to him, will have a totally separate in-person support system, and from that point will be in a more neutral situation to decide if I want to continue to try to help him out of this or just end things.

Let's hope you don't come back to a troon gooncave you can smell from the door...

Best of luck

 

[Hitman One]

>hanging out with old friend from home town
>tells me mutual bro who is now married with two kids has trooned out and is living with some 17 year old twink who he's grooming
Hitmanbros this can't be happening, I'm in charge here.

 

[Patty Q. Anonlinson]

>hanging out with old friend from home town
>tells me mutual bro who is now married with two kids has trooned out and is living with some 17 year old twink who he's grooming
Hitmanbros this can't be happening, I'm in charge here.

Do you think this guy was a closeted gay pederast before he got married?

I would find it really bizarre if he was just a regular heterosexual who just watched porn and fell victim to some egg-cracking Discord trannies later in life.

 

[Hitman One]

Do you think this guy was a closeted gay pederast before he got married?

I would find it really bizarre if he was just a regular heterosexual who just watched porn and fell victim to some egg-cracking Discord trannies later in life.

I dunno, looking back at certain things now I think perhaps yes. I did think he was a bit fruity but I always just really put it down to him being camp rather than gay as I've never known him to fuck a dude and he was always popular with the ladies when we were younger. Very confusing, doesn't fit the "creepy incel loner" to troon pipeline theory.

I've not lived at home for like 15 years now so maybe there's been more to it that I know.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Don’t ever date bisexual men or men who say you can do their makeup as a joke or men who say they like to look pretty as a joke sometimes.
It’s not a joke, and they’ll eventually troon on you,
Bisexual men (and especially coomer men) can’t be fixed or trusted to not troon out.

This is 100% accurate and nails down one of the all-too-common patterns. I have seen this happen to someone irl and it's not pretty.

I cannot update about my family member I mentioned upthread right now because Legal Dept Has Become Involved.

 

[Misogenes]

This is 100% accurate and nails down one of the all-too-common patterns. I have seen this happen to someone irl and it's not pretty.

I cannot update about my family member I mentioned upthread right now because Legal Dept Has Become Involved.

Godspeed and good luck with your situation. Obviously you're abiding by OPSEC but it sounds like shit's getting real.
Have a troon in my life currently, he's been "out" for maybe a year now and he's such a miserable cunt that it's been causing drama lately. Less for me than for the spouse, who's part of the friend group where the troon hangs out sometimes when he's not pissing off his woke roommates, but I'm hearing about it secondhand. And I'm sure Thanksgiving will be totally not awkward this year when all the kids are joining in for seasonal feasting.

 

[FedPostalService]

just a regular heterosexual

He wouldn’t be fucking a dude if he was the above.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

A friend of mine broke up with her boyfriend a few weeks ago. He told her he wanted to troon out and she tried to get him actual help but he only wanted to go to a gender quack. She told him about detransitioners, that he needs help because of past trauma, that she is very concerned and wanted to support him trough the recovery from said trauma and so on. Nothing mattered to him. The monster that is the tranny cult and his mental illness destroyed his sanity. The sad thing is that they love each other and he never called her transphobic once or sperged out during the breakup (which is probably rare). She said that she can't follow him because the path he chose leads to destruction and ended the relationship because staying with this man would lead to her demise as well. People who refuse to get help for their mental illness will only get worse and worse.

Another relationship destroyed by the tranny cult. When will this horror end??

Moral of the story: Even if you love the tranny and they love you - LEAVE!!!! These people are seriously mentally ill and will drag you down with them! Don't wait until you get hurt, get out asap!