US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[GunCar Gary]

I don't know why they hate Gaetz so much

what do you mean? it was explained on the last page

Matt Gaetz is not funded by the Israel lobby

 

[Sekirodiealot]

I don't believe trump is going to do any such thing....I can also say biden did do good on the right to repair stuff. That being said that's the only good thing I can think he did good on off the top of my head.

Repair stuff like? Another I can sorta think of is covid vaccine but I'm not sure if that counts.

 

[Michael_Jordan_Peterson]

Rainbow me all you want, but if this administration delivers even a fraction of their promises, it's just the beginning of the slide to the bottom for the Dems. The fact that black men and hispanic men broke for Trump as much as they did after 8 fucking years of propaganda shows that many of these men likely left the plantation for good. All he has to do is throw them a bone economically; not pander to some fucking victim complex like the Dems have done, and they will likely continue to decline for probably at least the next decade.

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The demographics breakdown and the balancing act of people spilling over to the right is a very good sign. I still think this election was mainly bad economy and things will remain close in the future.

You've seen the past week's behavior:

• First 72 hours it was a stream of "I told you so" from the moderate to center leftists, which ended with George Clooney being exiled from political affairs
• Then the backlash from the DNC camp who endorsed Kamala, including retards such a lichtman blaming voters for their defeat, how they did nothing wrong and how Russia and Elon musk and Joe Rogan derailed their campaign
• Reddit is now going after Latinos and male blacks and white women and refusing to accept that forcing faggots and trannies on normies was a bad idea

I don't see how that will change,they will double down on this shit, blame everyone but themselves.

I can't really see a way forward, I think the DNC will collapse like the whig party in the 1840s and form a new party out of the embers.

If the DNC officially collapses, I expect to see a centrist technocratic neoliberal with former never Trumpers and DNC moderates in the party like Andrew yang's fwd party and a left wing socialist Bernie bro derived party, probably absorbing the green party.

What is considered a normal sane personality on the left? I only really see Destiny whose brain seems to be fried and in a permanent state of rage from Adderall abuse and hasan who is basically a hamas terrorist. Ethan has become a fat irrelevant monster jewish pig man.

 

[Jade Philosophies]

Scott put up a good fight but we all kind of knew it was going to be the last grasp of the old GOP. Now the question is are Thune going to play ball or not and risk getting blasted by Trump/blamed for not getting his mandate passed.

Trump just needs to show Thune a satellite photo of his house.

 

[AN/ALR56]

What is considered a normal sane personality on the left?

I think you will see they trying to push for a "moderate" charismatic young dude next time around, who is both tough and somehow soft at the same time.

Basically someone that can catfish the Joe Rogan and Bernie Sanders crowd, a anti-christ version of JD Vance probably.

I don't know who it is, but you will see the media once they recover their shock and get their orders, they will start to slowly push him or even her slowly over the next 3 years.

 

[Polystyrene Glioblastoma]

Sorry for fagsperging, but I've had relationships with various Republican men in government positions ranging from local, state, and to think tank stuff federal Republicans use.

One of them is a never Trumper and his friends in power play ball with the Democrats in more than one way. They'll play baseball and bitch about them publicly but then they're getting their assholes rammed by neoliberals in the locker room and voting for them when they thinks the Republican is too much of a Trump loyalist.

Some of the Never Trumpers are open about their hatred or attempt to hide it. Very few of them actually change.

There are some Trump supporting Republicans who are closeted but usually they're less insufferable and it isn't as obvious.

Gay Republicans have weird political fetishes. The Never Trumpers like being dominated by liberals or engage in tense exchanges with MAGAfags. MAGAfags like to "red pill" liberal faggots or roleplay as a libtard.

*Ever wonder why some Republicans love snatching defeat from the jaws of victory? That's why.

What I'm getting at is lots of these airport bathroom, foot tapping neocon bastards in the Senate (and even the House) probably have dirt on them due to being sloppy and it is in their best interest to not interfere with Trump. They will be whipped into line by the Administration or voters if they don't wise up.

 

[George Lucas]

TIL that "BDS" -- "Bush Derangement Syndrome" -- was a term used as early as 2013-ish. It was likely used fairly rarely, as leftists didn't go as mad as SJWs have with TDS.

"Dude, you suffer from severe BDS, seriously severe.There is nothing even remotely related to Bush in this cartoon, yet you still somehow brought it up.Insecure much?"​

- comment from "over 11 years ago" on Bloom County by Berkeley Breathed for February 15, 2013 - GoComics (ad blocker advised)


How leftist do they get?

About as left as our Democratic party.

 

[Betonhaus]

Alright, follow-up from this–where do you guys see the Democrats go from here? I mean, this has to be their rock bottom, right?

There will be more division between the moderates and the extremists, with the moderates realizing they nearly brought America to the verge of ruin while the extremists are blinded by their vision of an utopia that's being prevented by evil Hitler idiots. They will have to determine who retains control of the party, or if the party will split.

I called the last few years America's Chernobyl moment, and the election was the Legasov suicide. What we're seeing now is the release of his tapes and people digesting what had happened. There is going to be a lot of infighting and questioning, and the journalists and politicians will be forced to either double down or be held accountable. We will likely see a trend towards something that for lack of a better word I'll call "journalistic integrity", and we may have hit the limit of what progressive values people will accept and realize we need to back away from that limit.

If the Democrats were competent I could see them doubling down so we get the dystopia of our nightmares, but they literally don't have the intelligence needed for that to not blow up in their face as soon as they hit the go button.

 

[0713]

They will be whipped

Don't threaten them with a good time...?

 

[Cnidarian]

I think you will see they trying to push for a "moderate" charismatic young dude next time around, who is both tough and somehow soft at the same time.

They just gotta pump enough child blood into Obama, maybe cure his revitiligo for once...

 

[Gehenna]

Trump congratulated Thune.

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So a mixture of rumor and personal feel on this. Thune was the compromise, but the compromise Trump actually wanted/was willing to agree to. You will notice that Trump never threw his support behind Rick Scott, his men did. That is a strong indicator of The Big Ask, with his supporters pushing Scott and Trump being outright anti-Cornyn. If Trump pushes for Scott personally it will make things messy and potentially get in a true loyalist... but also burns bridges with both other candidates for leadership and if either wins that messy battle it ensures the Senate is locked out from Trump.

So, the path is simple. Agree to not throw support behind anyone, let it play out naturally with a pretty good idea that Thune will win, in return for some relatively minor agreements. Ironically, "Business as usual" here hasn't actually been seen for nigh on a decade. The right -will- keep its deals when made. My bet is either an agreement to pass his cabinet positions or possibly an agreement to actually not resists beyond token gestures for the recess. Depending on how much Thune is willing to bend. I lean towards the latter as it lets Thune claim that he didn't actually help Trump while not actually opposing Trump.

It's also notable the truly shitty appointments all seem to be leaning in the foreign policy direction. I think other people have also noted this seems to be a good-cop bad-cop move by Trump, very business negotiations foreign policy of him if true

Those are largely meat thrown to the center of the Republican party. Ones meant to make Representatives and Senators feel their voices aren't being totally shut out and reassure them that on the international stage the U.S. won't lose power despite Trump's more isolationist policies.

Something to keep in mind is that while Trumpian Populism now rules a a majority of the party it does not rule the entire party. And with thin margins in both Senate and House, alienating those still hesitant to back Trump is a recipe for a deadlock. So Trump does need to provide something in the short-term to assuage fears while he sets up longer-term solutions he can implement once in office.

Foreign Policy is one of the few areas that Trump can freely give to those people. Anything truly important he can handle personally, and leaving the day to day operation to less Maga-loyalist people ensures less domestic strife in his own party. Trump loses nothing, and gains a lot.

 

[Qtinterval]

Repair stuff like? Another I can sorta think of is covid vaccine but I'm not sure if that counts.

As in the vaccine mandates? Are you some sort of kill off the majority of the human population as painfully as possible type of person?

 

[Paul Ryan]

Exactly. Return it to what it was pre-WW1. (Some of the green in the first pic is Poland as half of Poland was ruled by Russia at the time. Also, Moldova is green because it was part of Russia for about 100 years before it became part of Romania during WW1. This was done with Russia's (prior to the commies taking over) approval, it wasn't annexed by the Central Powers or commies. Although the Central Powers did invade and occupy it. And Belarus had been part of Russia from the start, with just a few hundred years when it was ruled by Poland but then Russia got it back again, until WW1 when Belarus was annexed by the Central Powers and became an independent country. Until it joined the USSR obviously.)

The Russians are just as bad as the Ukrainians, neither should get the majority of that territory. They're both animals in my book, but their neighbors are okay.

 

[CaddestSlown]

<snip>

I'll join in on the conversation, only because I'm grateful it wasn't me who said anything about the topic. It deserves a community watch type of thing in my opinion, that whole sphere and its adjacent groups/weirdos. You probably know which ones, the ones that get gays and trannies absolutely assblasted despite their public interests being weirder if not worse.

 

[Kovachs]

Sorry for fagsperging, but I've had relationships with various Republican men in government positions ranging from local, state, and to think tank stuff federal Republicans use.

One of them is a never Trumper and his friends in power play ball with the Democrats in more than one way. They'll play baseball and bitch about them publicly but then they're getting their assholes rammed by neoliberals in the locker room and voting for them when they thinks the Republican is too much of a Trump loyalist.

Some of the Never Trumpers are open about their hatred or attempt to hide it. Very few of them actually change.

There are some Trump supporting Republicans who are closeted but usually they're less insufferable and it isn't as obvious.

Gay Republicans have weird political fetishes. The Never Trumpers like being dominated by liberals or engage in tense exchanges with MAGAfags. MAGAfags like to "red pill" liberal faggots or roleplay as a libtard.

*Ever wonder why some Republicans love snatching defeat from the jaws of victory? That's why.

What I'm getting at is lots of these airport bathroom, foot tapping neocon bastards in the Senate probably have dirt on them due to being sloppy and it is in their best interest to not interfere with Trump. They will be whipped into line by the Administration or voters if they don't wise up.

Who is the hottest Republican Congressman? Asking for a friend.

My friend's willing to worship the Talmud, if that helps.

 

[JustSomeDong]

I hate this meme cause if you read anything about the American frontier and what the Indians were doing to them (and each other) then you know the west was won with blood, sweat, sacrifice, and tears.

A vast mass of ignorant people believe this:

And they will fervently defend their faith in the face of facts with the kind of conviction that would make a Baptist televangelist blush. You'd have an easier time trying to convert the Taliban to Judaism than giving that type of person a historical fact check.

 

[LiquidKid]

I think you will see they trying to push for a "moderate" charismatic young dude next time around, who is both tough and somehow soft at the same time.

Basically someone that can catfish the Joe Rogan and Bernie Sanders crowd, a anti-christ version of JD Vance probably.

I don't know who it is, but you will see the media once they recover their shock and get their orders, they will start to slowly push him or even her slowly over the next 3 years.

They already attempted this with how heavily the media pushed for Beto O’Rourke as “having the Obama energy” and it extremely failed because the modern democrat party didn’t want him and everyone else with a functional brain also didn’t want him.
He’s ultra irrelevant now, but for a while they pushed him hard for the millennial vote. High profile magazine covers, media interviews praising him, that retarded rally where he showed up on a skateboard he had trouble balancing on, he was basically the 2020 democrat version of Vance.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Somebody is trying to get Null to be the head of the FTC

https://discourse.nomineesforthepeople.com/t/josh-moon-fair-and-open-internet-access/67183

That site is getting trolled to hell and gone.

Pete Bootyjuice is one of the top nominees for Dept of Transportation and Bernie Sanders for Dept of Labor.

 

[thog]

Colbert is trying to mock Trump’s picks for his administration.

Every time his audience groans, that's effectively an endorsement.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Who is the hottest Republican Congressman? Asking for a friend.

Sorry, ladies. He's taken.