One Piece - I'm Gonna Be the Pirate King!

[FierceBrosnan]

In the middle of the final battle, Enel arrives with a Bolt of Lightning and gains everyone's attention.

Enel : "PEOPLE OF THE BLUE SEA..I Have a message from the Moon....NI" *Enel gets shot by Imu*
Everyone else : "Was he gonna drop a Racial Slur...or reveal a secret about Nika?"

It's Enel, he was going to drop the hardest R the world had ever seen.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

God damn Nikkers.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

It's Enel, he was going to drop the hardest R the world had ever seen.

Doesn't Eminem actually have an N-word pass?

 

[FierceBrosnan]

Doesn't Eminem actually have an N-word pass?

I believe it was bestowed upon him by Dr.Dre. Oh God please let Enel come back with some Moonman Dr.Dre expy so he can N bomb the red line into oblivion.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Doesn't Eminem actually have an N-word pass?

Not sure, but Enel being from One Piece’s version of Detroit is very funny to me.

At this point, My bet would be The One Piece being more than one thing and we only saw the very end of the exploration of the island.

Wasn’t that kind of assumed when Roger was laughing? The whole scene talked about Roger laughing upon seeing the treasure after learning how all the mysteries were connected and how the questions were answered. And nothing was shown except…people laughing. And Roger going “What a funny story!”

Again, that whole laughing thing points to the treasure being found after the final war is settled, since otherwise it’s Luffy laughing, with anyone else realizing the importance of what they found after they stop laughing, because Luffy is dense like that, and also somebody has to be the adult in the room.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Wasn’t that kind of assumed when Roger was laughing? The whole scene talked about Roger laughing upon seeing the treasure after learning how all the mysteries were connected and how the questions were answered. And nothing was shown except…people laughing. And Roger going “What a funny story!”

People just kind of assumed whatever Roger was laughing at was the thing, but just the history of the world and how everything connects really doesn't explain why Imu is so outright afraid of anyone getting to the last Island. There is something else there that is a direct, tangible threat to Imu personally.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Not sure, but Enel being from One Piece’s version of Detroit is very funny to me.


Wasn’t that kind of assumed when Roger was laughing? The whole scene talked about Roger laughing upon seeing the treasure after learning how all the mysteries were connected and how the questions were answered. And nothing was shown except…people laughing. And Roger going “What a funny story!”

Again, that whole laughing thing points to the treasure being found after the final war is settled, since otherwise it’s Luffy laughing, with anyone else realizing the importance of what they found after they stop laughing, because Luffy is dense like that, and also somebody has to be the adult in the room.

I take the opposite view, I think Luffy will be the only one that gets the joke. And like Roger be the first to laugh.

 

[ShitLurker]

not sure if this is worth spoiler tags so ill do it anyway buuut. i was talking with a friend about how most if not all the places the straw hats have visited have some form of dark secret about them and it got me thinking. what if loki is actually a good guy? and the dark secret for elbaf is that loki was framed and the true villian of elbaf is who actually killed the king.

I'm in the "Loki got fucked over" camp. His imprisonment also coincides around the time Shanks became an emperor. So I believe that Shanks was very involved with fucking Loki over and it was relevant enough to raise him to emperor level. If we discard the "shanks clone/twin" theory, I've also wondered if Shanks has been cooperating with the world goverment to set things up for Roger's legacy, even if it means getting his hands dirty. So we could even see a scenario where "cowardly Shanks" came to Elbaf and set up the downfall of a very troublesome sun god for the world goverment on the condition he got emperor status.

Or maybe I should stop sniffing glue.

Honestly, I was hoping the theory about him taking an unexpected break because kazuki yao is about to die was the reason for this

I never liked Franky's voice but I loved Bon Clay, sad that he's in his last leg.

He also doesn't do it arbitrarily for edge lord points.

I have no idea why people still want random character deaths in a post A Song of Ice and Fire revealing itself to be an absolute shit pile world.

This is still a shounen in standard Jump, mass civilian deaths being shown is a nono and would honestly be pure edge. I don't need to see piles of corpses in my One Piece thanks. And like others have mentioned, other areas have been made craters and flashbacks are hotbeds of human suffering.

As for when Oda kills people..he kills people when it actually matters..and honestly I think his reluctance to kill people is a GOOD thing

Agreed for the most part except...

What would have killing Pell accomplished? Crocodile's ass was already beat by the time the Bomb was going off so even if Pell died it wouldn't have mattered because Crocodile was already not a threat.

... fucking Pell had a beautiful sendoff and he would have been a proof of actual cost of liberating Alabasta, random civilians eating shit has no impact for me. Pell staying dead would give gravitas (and open a slot for Koza to fill as royal guard) to what was lost those days and Pell has and never will be plot relevant again. And in amy situation where Pell could be plot relevant, Koza or Chaka can cover that role as well.

In the middle of the final battle, Enel arrives with a Bolt of Lightning and gains everyone's attention.

Enel : "PEOPLE OF THE BLUE SEA..I Have a message from the Moon....NI" *Enel gets shot by Imu*
Everyone else : "Was he gonna drop a Racial Slur...or reveal a secret about Nika?"

Skitzo theory, Uranus is in the moon, Enel found it and during the timeskip the World Goverment got control of it and uses Slim shady to power it along with the eternal flame. I really want Enel to come back in some form dammit!

Him and Foxy for the lols.

 

[Snake of Diamond]

He also doesn't do it arbitrarily for edge lord points.

I have no idea why people still want random character deaths in a post A Song of Ice and Fire revealing itself to be an absolute shit pile world.

Thought it was made abundantly clear that any time a character dies it's for a purpose. Like as a motivator to push people or a person to be like that person and carry their legacy (inherited will).

 

[Random Internet Person]

People just kind of assumed whatever Roger was laughing at was the thing, but just the history of the world and how everything connects really doesn't explain why Imu is so outright afraid of anyone getting to the last Island. There is something else there that is a direct, tangible threat to Imu personally.

I’m taking the approach I always have: it’s gotta do with Joy Boy, and how his antics meant that the World Government under Imu doesn’t have absolute power and there’s no way all resistance can be completely crushed, all because of the treasure Joy Boy left.

@ShitLurker sorry, but I gotta call bullshit on your Shanks theory. Something like cooperating with the World Government basically would fly in the face of everything built up and what we know about the guy so far.

For starters, he was on Roger’s crew, so he’s already on the WG’s enemies list for that alone. Also, Garp hates Shanks for making Luffy choose the path of a pirate, maybe he isn’t alone in thinking that.

Second, the Gorosei were concerned when they heard that Shanks and Whitebeard were meeting up, and then said that the balance of the world needed to be maintained, before seething over Luffy becoming a chaotic force.

Third, if Shanks had any form of WG cooperation or collusion agreement, there’s no fucking way he’d be so chill with Ace being Luffy’s brother, he wouldn’t step into Marineford to stop the fighting the way he did (let alone bury the bodies of Ace and Whitebeard), and he sure as hell wouldn’t be so friendly with Luffy to the point where Luffy sees Shanks as a role model, and he certainly wouldn’t give Luffy his hat.

Sure Shanks had his reasons for doing what he does, such as turning down the chance to see Luffy again when the opportunity presents itself, but to paint it as being some kind of evil the whole time is just moronic to the nth degree.

Most I can see is him taking on the task of searching for Roger’s successor as determined by fate by himself, or some kind of crusader to ensure the course of history goes the way Joy Boy and Nika feels it should considering he stole the Gomu Gomu no Mi, and then his attention turned to Luffy in a massive way once Luffy ate the damn thing to the point where Shanks then saw Luffy as more than just some kid with his head in the clouds.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

random civilians eating shit has no impact for me.

Pell is a fucking Random Nobody, whose only act was to carry that bomb. The only reason people even remember he exists is because he survived the bomb.

Killing Eyelashes would have given the moment more Gravitas than Pell. If you wanted Gravitas you would want Igaram dead. (I would say Karoo but if you want him to die you are a fucking monster)

Thought it was made abundantly clear that any time a character dies it's for a purpose. Like as a motivator to push people or a person to be like that person and carry their legacy (inherited will).

In Song of Ice and Fire? The only Legacy that gets carried in that shit show is the Legacy of everyone being retarded.

 

[ShitLurker]

Most I can see is him taking on the task of searching for Roger’s successor as determined by fate by himself, or some kind of crusader to ensure the course of history goes the way Joy Boy and Nika feels it should considering he stole the Gomu Gomu no Mi, and then his attention turned to Luffy in a massive way once Luffy ate the damn thing to the point where Shanks then saw Luffy as more than just some kid with his head in the clouds.

Very good counter arguments. And I don't think Shanks is a goverment dog but I do think that he would do some unsavory acts if he thinks it will get him closer to sending Luffy to where he needs to be to complete Roger's legacy.

And it's well known that Shanks is a ratatoui rat! So I'm kind of expecting a hammer of some kind to fall with him. Be it that he's not this super clean "pirate"... or the clone/twin theory coming to play.

Pell is a fucking Random Nobody, whose only act was to carry that bomb. The only reason people even remember he exists is because he survived the bomb.

Killing Eyelashes would have given the moment more Gravitas than Pell. If you wanted Gravitas you would want Igaram dead. (I would say Karoo but if you want him to die you are a fucking monster)

Pell had some nice flashbacks with little Vivi so I consider him more than a random but you are right about Igaram as well.

 

[Ainchiemi]

(I would say Karoo but if you want him to die you are a fucking monster)

I'm a monster.

 

[ShitLurker]

I'm a monster.

For a dedicated Vivi fan you seem keen on making her cry herself raw

I love that stupid duck thing too much. One of my favorite comedy panels is Sanji asking who ate the fuckimg meat with Luffy, Carou, Ussop and I think Chopper all fishing while eating.

 

[Ainchiemi]

For a dedicated Vivi fan you seem keen on making her cry herself raw

I love that stupid duck thing too much. One of my favorite comedy panels is Sanji asking who ate the fuckimg meat with Luffy, Carou, Ussop and I think Chopper all fishing while eating.

I like carue. I like him lol.
My favorite moment of carue is what vivi's reacting to in my Profile header.

 

[Incecticyder]

Yep, it's BEEN a new level of crazy. The patting on the ass by commenters giddy to see people "higher" than them talk about "their own" series and replaying them over "oda is a 5d chess god" affects them as well. These zealotic minds would rather kill themselves than admit oda just simply retconned a point or dared to not immediately have every panel planned out after not ending it in 5 years.

Personally, I think he has a good headspace organisation, good memory and good methods for writing. He is not someone who would retcon the world in a way that contradicts already established lore without a proper in-universe explanation like Kishimoto does. When Oda gets an idea (like The Empty Throne), he puts the brakes and asks himself how does this fit in One Piece before implementing it.

You know what’s funny? Much of the One Piece theorists have basically been a practitioner of claiming that “they read tea leaves left by Oda”, and now we got claims of Oda reading tea leaves. Also, I have to think that Oda would only see Donald Trump as “generic asshole 80s/90s businessman”, kind of like how he was on The Apprentice (and it ain’t like Trump was the only one in that mold).

To be fair, Oda DOES leave dots for us to connect. I doubt though that he predicted Trump going from Reality TV star to controversial politician.

At this point, My bet would be The One Piece being more than one thing and we only saw the very end of the exploration of the island.

That is my theory too. Weapons, knowledge, wealth etc. Anything worth pursuing is going to be there. The Roger Pirates would not lead the next generation on a wild goose chase.

 

[Snake of Diamond]

Yep, it's BEEN a new level of crazy. The patting on the ass by commenters giddy to see people "higher" than them talk about "their own" series and replaying them over "oda is a 5d chess god" affects them as well. These zealotic minds would rather kill themselves than admit oda just simply retconned a point or dared to not immediately have every panel planned out after not ending it in 5 years.

It should be obvious that with this much lore and decades upon decades of characters you're bound to just forget something. People are legit mental if they think all of these things will be handled correctly in the end game with extreme pay off and not just a simple book end if they even get that since there's so much to deal with at this moment.

I'm catching up on the events here since i already caught up on the chapters but just wanna add something with the whole Wapol Trump thing. I can see peolpe wanting Wapol to be a generic "orange man evil" stereotype but forget that Oda made him a more interesting character over the years to the point his invention of Wapolmetal has connections to the government, made him insanely rich and caused the nobles to give him a kingdom. He was a villain for sure but idk what they are expecting past his villainry arc on Drum Island

I think that people want for an ending to cure their dad's cancer. They want THEIR ideal ending rather than one that makes sense. No ending is going to satisfy everything one was expecting. Some people want these characters to end up together, others want for the world to end up a certain way and some want for the protagonist to get a harem that gives bjs on command. Look at Naruto. While the overall story had its problems, you see people call Naruto a wage cuck. Same goes for MHA and Deku. I have problems with the ending but his career is not one of them. He freed the world from the tyrant that run it from the shadows, got his dream job with his idol and became the greatest hero of all time with everyone thanking him. And yet, he is called a "wage cuck". I have problems with it but that is stupid to say. Words have no meaning and criticism is dead. These same fucks would have humiliated themselves complaining about the ending of FMA too. I think that, after a big manga ends, people should let thing shimmer down before proclaiming "WORST ENDING EVAAAAR!"

All in all, I trust Oda to make an ending that will be good. I do not expect to get everything I want from it and that is fine. Nothing that Oda could do would satisfy everything. I will just choose not to end up looking like a fool by screaming on the internet when it comes. Oda has given so much good writing up until now, I doubt he will stop.

I feel you here and my thing is to add to all this is peolpe who while they might not say it they feel like they "earned" a good ending. That is a mentality that is far from critiquing an ending for not living up to expectations in fact for OP i really don't want a grandiose ending personally as i feel it fizzling out in a good way fits the theme since a lot of the arcs usually end in a big party and that vibe in the ending where everything is over and everyone can now achieve their goal after finding the One Piece after celebrating would be cool but i digress.

With Deku i sort of saw it like a reverse Saitama where he is a "hero" but really wants to live normally and let all the other people do their hero stuff but he's willing to show up and save he world when it is necessary. Deku did his thing and got to his peak and in Japanese media a lot of what you see is people finally achieving their goals then simmering down to be a teacher or something to watch the younger generation move forward. It's not like Deku is a nobody since that kid straight up recognizes who he was he's just licking a more civilian lifestyle now. But yeah it goes back to what i said before it's perfectly fine to critique the story and its ending but people feel like they didn't "earn" their ending whatever that is so Deku's accolades and the legacy he leaves behind mean nothing just call him a 'normie' now and move on right?

 

[Incecticyder]

It should be obvious that with this much lore and decades upon decades of characters you're bound to just forget something. People are legit mental if they think all of these things will be handled correctly in the end game with extreme pay off and not just a simple book end if they even get that since there's so much to deal with at this moment.

I think that people want for an ending to cure their dad's cancer. They want THEIR ideal ending rather than one that makes sense. No ending is going to satisfy everything one was expecting. Some people want these characters to end up together, others want for the world to end up a certain way and some want for the protagonist to get a harem that gives bjs on command. Look at Naruto. While the overall story had its problems, you see people call Naruto a wage cuck. Same goes for MHA and Deku. I have problems with the ending but his career is not one of them. He freed the world from the tyrant that run it from the shadows, got his dream job with his idol and became the greatest hero of all time with everyone thanking him. And yet, he is called a "wage cuck". I have problems with it but that is stupid to say. Words have no meaning and criticism is dead. These same fucks would have humiliated themselves complaining about the ending of FMA too. I think that, after a big manga ends, people should let thing shimmer down before proclaiming "WORST ENDING EVAAAAR!"

All in all, I trust Oda to make an ending that will be good. I do not expect to get everything I want from it and that is fine. Nothing that Oda could do would satisfy everything. I will just choose not to end up looking like a fool by screaming on the internet when it comes. Oda has given so much good writing up until now, I doubt he will stop.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

That is my theory too. Weapons, knowledge, wealth etc. Anything worth pursuing is going to be there. The Roger Pirates would not lead the next generation on a wild goose chase.

The biggest bit of Evidence for it is that the World Government is scared fucking Shitless about anything involving Laugh Tale.

They hid Gol's real name.
They murdered any child that MIGHT have been Gol's
They went to War with Whitebeard over Ace to execute him publicly to send a message
They Nuke Ohana over The Poneglyphs
They assassinate their best R+D researcher over The Poneglyphs.

There is something very tangible, that is connected to the Will of D that Imu absolutely can not let anyone get their hands on.

 

[Random Internet Person]

The biggest bit of Evidence for it is that the World Government is scared fucking Shitless about anything involving Laugh Tale.

They hid Gol's real name.
They murdered any child that MIGHT have been Gol's
They went to War with Whitebeard over Ace to execute him publicly to send a message
They Nuke Ohana over The Poneglyphs
They assassinate their best R+D researcher over The Poneglyphs.

There is something very tangible, that is connected to the Will of D that Imu absolutely can not let anyone get their hands on.

I thought all that was confirmed in Whitebeard’s dying words. And with Clover’s dying words. The only thing that’s been missing is the what and why of those things, intentionally not discovered because Luffy is nowhere close to learning about either of those things, and won’t come close for a long time.

That is my theory too. Weapons, knowledge, wealth etc. Anything worth pursuing is going to be there. The Roger Pirates would not lead the next generation on a wild goose chase.

I don’t he ever did. Honestly, we’re doing exactly what Oda wanted us to do: discussing the treasure and what it is because it’s been revealed that the treasure Roger left is no mere chest buried in the sand (even if that’s been the case since Whitebeard died).

People just kind of assumed whatever Roger was laughing at was the thing, but just the history of the world and how everything connects really doesn't explain why Imu is so outright afraid of anyone getting to the last Island. There is something else there that is a direct, tangible threat to Imu personally.

I’m gonna put the page in question here:


It says right there that Roger was laughing as he looked at the treasure, while Also having learned about then secrets and mysteries Oda has. And yes, it doesn’t explain why Imu is worked up about it. But that’s because Luffy is nowhere close to getting to where Roger is on this page. I’d say a real question to ask is why that is, but that may just be too meta for the story at hand and the points you’re making.