Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.

[Tragi-Chan]

It's so inspiring to see the ever-professional chair of a charitable organisation dedicated to helping trans-people in desperate situations post vaguely threatening messages on their personal accounts, condone the public posting of nude photography, admit to enjoying being photographed nude, get their wife deported, and endorse the insane ranting of a dangerous abuser.

Truly, Trans Life Line is an organisation worthy of my, and many other donations.

It's ridiculously unprofessional. If you're desperate, what you need to confide in is someone reliable who can be your rock. Yet here she is, very publicly melting down and. If I were suicidal, these chucklefucks would be the last people I'd turn to for reassurance and help.

Also, why does she keep highlighting KiwiFarms? All it does is draw attention to this thread, in which all the many flaws of TLL and Greta herself are exposed. A lot of people will be following her because of this incident, many of whom will never have heard of Kiwi Farms. But now they have. What they know is that there's this forum that Greta won't shut up about. And if they have two brain cells to rub together, they'll wonder why she's so desperate to paint them as bad guys. I mean, this is Streisand 101.

Keep doing it, this is just false bravado.

We keep showing the world the emperor is really naked and this is just him trying to pretend he doesn't feel a breeze over his clearly goosebumped skin, and even though he's getting hypothermia from trying to play it cool, he'd rather die than admit we scare the shit out of him because we don't fear his cult of brainwashed degenerates who masturbate to the thought of their dick in a dress.

But that's fine. Either the hypothermia claims him, or schadenfreude does the job.

Either way we win.

Greta is chimping over us because we're not scared and we're not beholden to her asspatters. She just can't deal with the fact that there are people out there who can say whatever they like about her. This is a textbook narcissist meltdown.

Bear in mind that for all she claims we're pathetic and stupid and not worth her time, she did attempt to physically threaten Null IRL.

 

[Null]

Also, why does she keep highlighting KiwiFarms?

Sympathy money. She doesn't realize how well our forum does in convincing people of something. We do a good job at compiling information.

 

[Luminous Being]

Also, why does she keep highlighting KiwiFarms? All it does is draw attention to this thread, in which all the many flaws of TLL and Greta herself are exposed.

It's not like Greta's doing any more harm. This thread's the number 3 search result on the Google machine (no personlaized search weighing), right below Greta's Twitte, FB and ugly face.

Anyone that googles any of the known names will see this.

 

[AnOminous]

Greta is chimping over us because we're not scared and we're not beholden to her asspatters. She just can't deal with the fact that there are people out there who can say whatever they like about her. This is a textbook narcissist meltdown.

Bear in mind that for all she claims we're pathetic and stupid and not worth her time, she did attempt to physically threaten Null IRL.

Greta might be half bright to direct attention to us if we were nothing more than a monolithic enemy everyone would agree is utter shit and has no accurate information.

However, Greta is an aggressive shithead who routinely pisses off everyone around him who doesn't go along with every single bit of his bullshit, and it's pretty easy if you do any fact checking whatsoever to realize it's Greta who is lying about the events transpiring.

This is not going to get any easier to lie about as the questions pile up and Greta's answers continue to be nothing but a pile of bullshit lies.

 

[Lorento]

I'm actually somewhat surprised Greta's even still in the fight. Normally grifters recognize when a con is fucked and take off.

Me and @Dr. Boe Jangles Esq. were discussing this a few weeks back, before all this hell broke loose. It could very well be that Greta is so unstable that she's pulled herself into her own con and now she's completely missed the moment to jump ship. That moment was before Elizabeth Waite died. Nina getting taken in was the second chance. Now its too late, she's almost certainly doomed if she fights this and the prosecution decides to air some dirty laundry.

 

[CatParty]

This is pretty much proof positive that the marriage isn't legal. They are fundraising to pursue an asylum claim, not "get Nina legal" or anything else. Greta is forcing Nina to go for a hail mary defensive asylum claim and it's going to be ugly and expensive. (I'm sure Greta thinks this is great for fundraising and maximum oppression points.)

Greta is a real piece of shit, even to her fake wife.

I do hope this makes Nina realize she doesn't need Greta now. Asylum claims have nothing to do with with marriage and only with convincing an IJ that she has been persecuted in India, that Govt doesn't nothing to help& actively persecutes trans people and that she isn't just an economic migrant.

The prosecutor fighting her claim won't have a very difficult job. All that publicity for TLL and other media will destroy the credibility of the claims she is going to have to make to claim asylum. We just need to make sure the prosecutor is aware of it.

So wait. There the "official" one set up by Greta and the youcaring set up by that cuck orbiter? Now it's getting fishy

 

[Ti-99/4A]

So wait. There the "official" one set up by Greta and the youcaring set up by that cuck orbiter? Now it's getting fishy

Troons can never have too much free pitybux.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

So wait. There the "official" one set up by Greta and the youcaring set up by that cuck orbiter? Now it's getting fishy

Yeah, this one goes directly into Greta's bank account. Here's Shrek's scammy GFM link

Spoiler

https://www.gofundme.com/help-nina-settle-her-immigration

 

[Dorsia.Reservation]

It's so inspiring to see the ever-professional chair of a charitable organisation dedicated to helping trans-people in desperate situations post vaguely threatening messages on their personal accounts, condone the public posting of nude photography, admit to enjoying being photographed nude, get their wife deported, and endorse the insane ranting of a dangerous abuser.

Truly, Trans Life Line is an organisation worthy of my, and many other donations.

Greta can bitch about KF all he wants.

However, the fact is that people who have previously supported (donations and resources) him/TLL are watching his VERY unprofessional behavior.
They don't even need the farms because they are putting 2 and 2 together (his past behavior and now this).

His posting of veiled threats is really going to come back to haunt him.
It's probably best that he goes back to California because a lot of people in the Chicago community want nothing to do with someone who acts like all the negative stereotypes that some people associate with trans people.



And I love how Greta has the time to post about the farms but can't be bothered to find the correct visitation time to see Nina.
I think that speaks volumes.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Yeah, this one goes directly into Greta's bank account. Here's Shrek's scammy GFM link

Spoiler

https://www.gofundme.com/help-nina-settle-her-immigration

Ah, and if Nina doesn't get released, no doubt all that money will go to good use "improving TLL," right?

 

[Luminous Being]

Yeah, this one goes directly into Greta's bank account. Here's Shrek's scammy GFM link

Spoiler

https://www.gofundme.com/help-nina-settle-her-immigration

>This campaign is trending!

Fucks sake...

Doesn't gofundme let you keep the money if the goal doesn't get met? I'm sure Greta loves that little added bonus.

 

[AnOminous]

So wait. There the "official" one set up by Greta and the youcaring set up by that cuck orbiter? Now it's getting fishy

It would be a hoot if one of them is just a scammer. I mean, if the other one is also a scammer.

 

[CatParty]

Ah, and if Nina doesn't get released, no doubt all that money will go to good use "improving TLL," right?

Oh that's probably the one they already raised over 2k on
https://www.youcaring.com/gretamartelaandninachaubal-726729



The organizer of that one could use a thread too

https://facebook.com/TugSpanoHealthCareProfessional

 

[Luminous Being]

Yeah, this one goes directly into Greta's bank account. Here's Shrek's scammy GFM link

Spoiler

https://www.gofundme.com/help-nina-settle-her-immigration

Oh, also the two biggest donors so far:

https://twitter.com/holdenkarau

Because of course.

https://twitter.com/lizthegrey

>Hopefully my $500 helps.

It won't do anything. Atharv is going OUT! OUT! OUT!

Greta loves some extra cash tho, so's all good!

 

[mayfield]

Oh, also the two biggest donors so far:

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https://twitter.com/holdenkarau

Because of course.


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https://twitter.com/lizthegrey
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>Hopefully my $500 helps.

It won't do anything. Atharv is going OUT! OUT! OUT!

Greta loves some extra cash tho, so's all good!

Holden's face looks shooped on, geez.

Also, is that a collar on Liz? Ya nasty.

 

[Sissy Galvez]

I can't remember reading anything to the effect of us knowing for a fact that Fatroon's marriage to the ex-wife was still in effect.

AFAIK there was speculation that the marriage to Raghav wasn't valid, but no proof. Did I miss that?

Shrek admitted, in one of the recent #FreeNina articles, that his marriage to El Niño was invalid because his ex had died andCA Rrecords had supposedly lost all records for the year they filed the divorce in the transition from paper to digital (bullshit).

That's why they didn't file the green card paperwork after they got married.

 

[Null]

>mfw I move from Mumbai on a work visa then fired and tricked by an ogre into becoming a woman and marrying him for a permanent residence visa only to be wound up implicated in his charity scam and deported because he didn't even file for my fucking green card

 

[JU 199]

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Woah, just checked out kiwi farms website. They're really obsessed with you, Greta. It's so weird. The mods have somehow convinced themselves that you're evil because TransLifeline isn't able to save 100% of callers from suicide. By that logic no one should ever try to help anyone ever because if you can't help EVERYONE then you're evil.

I disagree with their logic completely. I think the highest calling a person can undertake is helping others. And we're all free agents. Just because you're doing your best to help someone doesn't mean that they will accept your help. And that's their right to make that choice. And as mortal beings confined by this dimension, we only have so much time, money, and energy. Even with the best intentions we could never help EVERYONE.

So, they're holding you to an impossible standard of perfection and demonizing you for not meeting it.

I hope they chill out, realize that you save people's lives, that you've dedicated your life to Trans Lifeline because that was a need that wasn't being met, you wanted to help and you knew that you were strong enough to do so. You're a good person and you've helped so many. And I'm sad that anyone would get that confused.

I'm not even angry at them. Just sad for them. We're all just people. We're all fucked up. We all have trauma. I think kiwi farms is reliving some trauma through you, Greta. And that's just plain abuse. Kiwi Farms: I know you're reading this. Please, stop messing with Greta. She doesn't deserve it. She's my friend and she's a good person. And you are not qualified to be judge and jury. No one is and also your perspective is warped. What you're doing is wrong. And you need to stop. You're being abusive, you're draining energy from good people that need that energy for more important things, and you're spreading fear and pain in the trans community. We have enough fear and pain to deal with. It would be more helpful if you were nice to us. So if you want to be helpful and good you could start by expanding your compassion to the trans community. And if you can't do us any good at least don't do us harm.

I know you're reading this. Please, stop messing with Greta. She doesn't deserve it. She's my friend and she's a good person

 

[m0rnutz]

I know you're reading this. Please, stop messing with Greta. She doesn't deserve it. She's my friend and she's a good person

Good people release budget records. They don't let their sons turn into crackheads. They don't dip into their business donations to pay for parties and extravagant vacations across the country.

They don't close down their hotline stats just because they're facing criticism. They don't go full McIntosh and overhaul an entire site, post suicide. They don't appraise peers that promote slander of a widow. They don't shut off communication go the family of a suicide victim(we donated to the Waites, remember?)

More importantly, they don't post weapons on facebook, and mere moments later confront a mother and son with the intent to either do harm or instill fear.

Edit: They also don't hire a minor struggling with a panic disorder to handle the most stressing job they've known: dealing with suicide

 

[Lorento]

The mods have somehow convinced themselves that you're evil because TransLifeline isn't able to save 100% of callers from suicide. By that logic no one should ever try to help anyone ever because if you can't help EVERYONE then you're evil.

If one of your callers attempts suicide while on HOLD when trying to call the Trans LifeLine, then we must question the competence of the people running it. I don't really think Greta is evil, just hilariously incompetent.

And if you can't do us any good at least don't do us harm.

Kiwi Farms hasn't caused any trangenders to kill themselves. Unlike a certain someone...