US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Gehenna]

so what is/was the Dems message anyway?

In reality: They didn't have one.
In their heads: Whatever -they- believe would have won the election.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Where did it come from? It's my first time hearing about the accusation

As I understand it, he went on a trip to the Bahamas with some women and was later accused of trafficking them for sex, with the implication that they were under age. A federal investigation was initiated after he refused to throw trump under the bus for the January inch erection. It was dropped after they found no evidence to support the accusations. The house committee investigating similar claims has spent the last three years edging about it in public, but never once released any evidence.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Pretty insane shit I'm hearing from this guy, he basically wants Europe to arm up, draft millions of people and throw them at Russia, saying that this WW3 he wants requires urgent mobilization RIGHT NAOW while simultaneously acknowledging that Russia has effectively neutered itself on Ukraine's bayonet and is very pathetically still struggling with it's impoverished neighbor. If Russia is doing so poorly, and he knows it, why the urgency to go and fight? Maybe Simon Whistler should consider joining the Ukrainian army if he wants war adventurism so badly.

At the end of the day Simon whistler reads scripts and does like over a dozen shows almost none of these opinions are personally his.
As much as I would love him to be a based libertarian (visual politik) dude I know he just reads scripts nothing more.

Reddit has literally nothing on Vance so they keep clinging to the sex with couches lie.
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You know it's bad when people can't even articulate why they hate someone, it's just pure compulsion

I have to remind myself the reason why people hate the right with such vigor is the modern progressive left is upset that instead of making those 6 figure salaries and owning the right in flyover America working for the new Yorker they're struggling to make ends meet and are in a bitter cycle trying to own now the chuds.

 

[Jade Philosophies]

So i saw the Logan Act trending cause of Elon meeting with the Iran's UN ambassador and saw our dear friend candee. Everyone's mad about it and calling it the logan act.
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The Logan Act is a load of bullshit and should be repealed. It was created because some guy called George Logan went to France and managed to help end the Quasi-War between the USA and France and the US government got jealous (especially since he was a Democratic-Republican, who was praised by the Democratic-Republican Party for his actions, and it was a Federalist Party government) and said "NOOOOOO! Only we should be allowed to do things like that!" and created a new law in his name. If he had caused a problem then at least the reasoning behind them doing it would be understandable, but he did a good thing!

 

[TJT]

California is still at like 93%. Hell, Oregon is at 96%, NJ at 95%, and both Maryland and Washington are at 97%. They're going to try as much as they can to slowly push the vote count towards Kamala. I look forward to some announcement a month down the road where they try to claim "guys, Kamala actually won the popular vote with all these absentee ballots. Oh, those military ballots from overseas that overwhelmingly vote Republican? Nah, never heard of them. Guys, trust us, it's been a month but its totally real."

They're 2.7 million votes behind Trump still but don't be surprised if you see one of those states find more ballots and announce that they're at a lower count percent. There is no reason not to be finished counting after 10 days.

It wont be effective. 2020 showed us that the election narrative really needs about 72 hours to push before it can't be contested. If they say in December "Trump actually lost the popular vote look here we finally finished counting!" Nobody will listen to it. They may still screech about it for the next 4 years though.

 

[Overly Serious]

It wont be effective. 2020 showed us that the election narrative really needs about 72 hours to push before it can't be contested. If they say in December "Trump actually lost the popular vote look here we finally finished counting!" Nobody will listen to it. They may still screech about it for the next 4 years though.

People talking about it not being harmful if they pull it off. But what about the gains if it's defeated? If this is electoral fraud and they catch it and prosecute it, it's going to lend legitimacy to so many other claims of fraud in 2020.

 

[Jade Philosophies]

Hence the liquidity being a factor. As Mironchuk would have it, Blackrock has more assets under management but the Carlyle Group has assets outright. Its just their money, not money from a pension fund they trade. He also alleges this group isn't limited to the Carlyle Group per se, as influential people are constantly joining and leaving the formal organization, implying there is an informal (and thus less visible) component to the organization.

It doesn't matter. BlackRock acts like it's their money and use it to control virtually every major company in the world and influence governments. (Together with Vanguard and State Street. They all own shares in each other but BlackRock is the largest company of the 3 so top dog. So when 3 companies each own large percentages of shares of another company, enough to have controlling interest between them or at least a very strong interest, and the biggest of the companies that own the shares also owns shares in the other 2 you can see how much power they have.) When they have trillions of dollars of people's money they have a hell of a lot of wiggle room and it's not like everyone is going to pull their money out at the same time.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

When the documents were due, InfoWars stated that they refused to communicate with Google, as Google is part of the conspiracy and therefore can't be trusted to supply the data without tampering it first to make Jones look bad.

Google is part of the conspiracy and they do tamper with data to make their enemies look bad.

 

[The Ugly One]

Google is part of the conspiracy and they do tamper with data to make their enemies look bad.

Oh, in that case, he should have filed an objection and provided evidence of the conspiracy rather than ignoring the judge.

 

[TJT]

People are misunderstanding the request. Getting your "Google Analytics" data needs to be more specific in itself. The plaintiff was arguing that Jones' people made a specific interpretation on a dataset they knew nothing about that somehow guided their actions. This is a nonsensical argument.

Google could have but didn't need to tamper with anything. Google analytics runs on the Infowars site and you pay them to see data traffic to the site among other things. So you can identify demographics and so on. Even if you had all of Jones' Google Analytics data on the Infowars website you have no idea what conclusion Jones and team came to from it nor if it guided their decision making on what to put on air. Considering Jones hoots and hollers on air with schizo energy for 10 hours a day about whatever shit pops into his head the idea that he planned all of it is lol. Yes place the Sandy Hook is a hoax talk in-between the advertisement for Liver Dick Pills and the 3 hour rant about gay frogs. Yes.

This is the shit we are talking about:

EDIT: Most people also don't know that Google has a $1M+ paywall for certain "Google Analytics" features as well. This can be part of the reason to refuse the request for discovery because its not even clear that Jones used Google Analytics for anything let alone having an account he and his team used regularly. So what? Is he supposed to pay Google for features he doesn't use so the court can have data he never used for anything?

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

Ephebophile, someone attracted to older teenagers

The meme is "he isn't a pedophile, he's an ephebophile!"

This is pretty revealing about whoever made that meme, because they assume I don't want to behead literally any pedophilic identity they conjure up.

 

[Jade Philosophies]

Trump this time around has really worked hard hyping up his whole entourage. I don't recall a president ever getting people excited for shit like who he is going to make the health secretary

Because in the past the cabinet members have been pretty irrelevant as they were just career politicians doing the Deep State/NWO's bidding. They were just interchangeable units that could be swapped in and out. This time they're people selected by Trump with help from people he trusts (definitely some at least) who actually want to do what the general public want. True populists. (As long as they're all genuine.) People are more interested because they're actually invested in them this time. They knew that they weren't just voting for Trump, they were also voting for RFK Jr, Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramalamadingdong. (Yes, I know Elon and Vivek aren't technically in the cabinet, but I'm sure they've been helping with the selection and DOGE was something the public were voting for too.)

I think this is less about RFK and more about people like me who don't really like RFK because of his incredibly hardcore climate stances in the past like saying we should put Climate Change Deniers in prison. I am okay having him around if he sticks to his lane, but if Trump does something retarded about Oil and Climate Change I know exactly who I am gonna fucking blame.

How much of that is actually really him and how much was just towing the party line when he was a Democrat? How much of what he said as a Democrat did he say when he was campaigning as an independent? (Prior to supporting Trump, obviously.)

 

[Jaimas]

California is still at like 93%. Hell, Oregon is at 96%, NJ at 95%, and both Maryland and Washington are at 97%. They're going to try as much as they can to slowly push the vote count towards Kamala. I look forward to some announcement a month down the road where they try to claim "guys, Kamala actually won the popular vote with all these absentee ballots. Oh, those military ballots from overseas that overwhelmingly vote Republican? Nah, never heard of them. Guys, trust us, it's been a month but its totally real."

They're 2.7 million votes behind Trump still but don't be surprised if you see one of those states find more ballots and announce that they're at a lower count percent. There is no reason not to be finished counting after 10 days.

It's not going to work for the same reason their claim Dubya lost the popular vote six or seven months in didn't.

And yes, I am old enough to remember that they pushed the lie that he lost by half a million for that long. Even Democrats saw that shit as sour grapes.

 

[Jade Philosophies]

Ephebophile, someone attracted to older teenagers

The meme is "he isn't a pedophile, he's an ephebophile!"

The correct word would be "heterosexual". Go look up how old Britney Spears was when she filmed the Hit Me Baby One More Time video that most men on the planet were fapping to when it came out.

 

[TJT]

Oh, in that case, he should have filed an objection and provided evidence of the conspiracy rather than ignoring the judge.

Imagine if KF here gets into another legal spat. Google Analytics tracks traffic and shit to KF regardless of anything the site owner does. Now imagine that someone files suit against old Null for using Google Analytics to empirically study traffic and make KF more anti-troon on purpose.

But Null has never opened Google Analytics and has never used any of that shit nor does he pay Google for the data they collect automatically so he can research it.

Now the judge wants Null to provide this Google Analytics data he doesn't collect or use but he has to go to Google and pay them to retrieve it just to satisfy the court in their discovery phase. All so he can prove that he doesn't use it. To which the next question gay ass lawyers will ask is "Why do you possess it if you don't use it in the way we are accusing you of!?"

This is actually more ridiculous than Jones being unable to get his old YouTube videos off the site after being banned from the platform.

 

[IrishGuy088]

That's no way to talk to a pre-2020 user

Delete your account, retard.

Arguing join dates is the most pathetic thing.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Pennsylvania is some bullshit where it looks like local Dems are basically just going “the court can enforce their decision” in a state where that likely will be allowed unless because they have a Democratic Governor and their Supreme Court is extremely liberal.

If the buck doesn’t stop at Bucks then I imaging they are gonna start finding boxes of 500 ballots in all 70 counties for Casey (and maybe Harris). If we get a repeat of Florida by Elias but in Pennsylvania , I’ll be impressed that he managed to waste everyone’s fucking time. If Harris unconcedes like Gore then I’ll actually be worried.

 

[babadook]

I think Tulsi's silver streak is cute.

 

[The Ugly One]

People are misunderstanding the request. Getting your "Google Analytics" data needs to be more specific in itself. The plaintiff was arguing that Jones' people made a specific interpretation on a dataset they knew nothing about that somehow guided their actions. This is a nonsensical argument.

You are misunderstanding the difference between a request from a plaintiff and an order from a judge. During discovery, all parties make various requests. The judge evaluates those requests, and those requests turn into orders. If a plaintiff raises a request you think is unreasonable, you can object to the request in court. When that request becomes an order from a judge, you cannot disobey it. Orders from judges have the force of law; they are not suggestions. You obey them because the judge has the power to fuck you over if you disobey, not because you agree with them. Jones did not object to a request; he ignored an order and an excuse when he was found to have disobeyed. And then the judge fucked him over, and higher courts agreed that yes, Jones disobeyed, and yes, this judge's fucking-over of Jones was within the law.

EDIT: Most people also don't know that Google has a $1M+ paywall for certain "Google Analytics" features as well. This can be part of the reason to refuse the request for discovery because its not even clear that Jones used Google Analytics for anything let alone having an account he and his team used regularly. So what? Is he supposed to pay Google for features he doesn't use so the court can have data he never used for anything?

No. There is literally no reason to ignore a discovery order. You can object to a request when it is raised, but once the judge has heard the request, evaluated your arguments, and given you an order, it's done. Do not ignore a court order, ever, for any reason. Let me give an example from a lawsuit in which I was recently a very peripheral party of how this actually works when the defendant isn't clowning in court:

1. The plaintiff requested all emails addressed involving Mr A mentioning Product A. The defense objected immediately that there were so many such emails that it would impose an undue burden to retrieve them all. The judge disagreed with the defense and ordered them to produce the emails. 30 days later, the defense supplied all the emails.
2. The plaintiff requested a different batch of emails involving Messrs A, B, C, and D with a different criterion. The defense objected that this criterion was too broad and would result in harvesting a bunch of irrelevant emails that could compromise sensitive information. The judge agreed that the criterion was too broad. The defense narrowed it, the judge then issued an order, and the defense supplied all the emails.

Now, I want you to notice in both of these cases, the defense, rather than ignoring the judge and saying "nah" when the discovery due date arrived, immediately lodged an objection and, in both cases, complied once ordered. Comply with court orders to the letter, or you're gonna get fucked.

I do know of one other case besides Mr Jones where somebody decided to ignore a judge. A guy I know who was getting divorced decided his soon-to-be-ex didn't really need all the financial records the judge ordered him to produce. Due date came, and he did the same sort of thing you're doing here, try to justify why he ignored the judge by pointing to how unreasonable he felt the plaintiff was. Guess what happened? The judge held him in default, and the splitting of his assets and the things he was ordered to pay for were done entirely by his wife's attorney. Didn't go well for him.

Don' ignore a judge. Ever.

 

[TJT]

Comparing free email access to access to a paid service is totally the same. Dude you are delusional. Jones will likely eventually win on appeal precisely because the Judge was so fucked.

There is no upper limit on how much Google could charge for access to this data. If Jones already was paying it he would have had no problem providing it. So the Judge can hold you in default because you refused to answer a discover order that would have required you to pay potentially millions of dollars just to get it. When you said this was unreasonable the Judge instead told you to go fuck yourself get it or suffer.

The decision was not made in a vacuum. Jones' expensive attorneys advised him on doing this.