UN Terrified friends burned to death in Tesla as electronic doors wouldn't open after crash - Elon Musk presents the Indian slow cooker


Terrified friends burned to death in Tesla as electronic doors wouldn't open after crash​

The only survivor of the October 24 fire was a woman in her 20s who was able to get to safety after a quick thinking passer-by smashed a window of the burning Model Y car to free her​



The car burst into flames after hitting a barrier, four of the five passengers were unable to get out as fire engulfed the car (


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Joe SmithNews Reporter
  • 08:48, 12 Nov 2024
Four friends died in a horrific car fire after they were unable to escape from a burning Tesla when a crash disabled its electronic doors.
The only survivor of the October 24 fire was a woman in her 20s who was able to get to safety after a passer-by smashed a window of the burning Model Y car.

Four other friends, identified as 25-year-old Neelraj Gohil, his sister Ketaba Gohil, 29, Jay Sisodiya and Digvijay Patel all lost their lives in the incident.
Rick Harper, a Canada Post employee, heroically used a metal pole to smash the car window, freeing the woman. In an interview with the Toronto Star he told reporters she “couldn’t open the doors” from inside of the crashed Tesla.


One woman was saved when a passer-by smashed the window (
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“I would assume the young lady would have tried to open the door from the inside, because she was pretty desperate to get out,” Harper said. “I don't know if that was the battery or what. But she couldn't get out.”
He described how the woman, the only survivor of the wreck, scrambled out of the car head-first after he smashed the window. Harper said he did not know anyone else was in the car at the time, because the smoke was so thick.

He has no way to know if they too were trying to escape the burning car using the unresponsive doors in their final moments. Investigators are still working to determine the cause of the crash, which happened after the Tesla hit a guardrail at speed on Toronto’s Lakeshore Boulevard East.
In the US there are nine investigations involving the Tesla Model Y, ranging from “unexpected brake activation” to “sudden unintended acceleration,” according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
Tesla boasts its vehicles gave a “safety-first design” and says its vehicles are “the safest in the world”. There is a manual override in Tesla cars but the feature is not widely publicized, experts say.
In the event of a crash passengers are directed to pull away a palen in the door and tug at a cable underneath to open the doors, but safety watchdogs have said dazed or panicked crash victims may not be able to search for the feature after a car crash.

 
This is more complicated than it might seem. The Teslas actually have more redundancy than conventional cars, but those redundant modes are more complicated. Consider a conventional car with a manual latch. If the child safety lock is engaged, the door can’t be opened at all. Even a normal car door would be hard to open after a crash because of the airbags and a virtually infinite number of failure modes that could cause the door to become inaccessible.

The real problem is that the car should not be catching on fire at all, but it’s not possible to make an EV that can’t catch on fire. Conventional vehicles are much less likely to catch on fire. And the safety modes of vehicles has been about keeping passengers inside the vehicle, but EVs have now created common modes where staying inside the vehicle is more dangerous than getting out.
 
Why do Redditors and pajeets love these death traps so fucking much? I've never seen any other companies who have vehicles that just fucking explode or catch fire from getting wet. Imagine being trapped in a lithium fire with no way to get out because Tesla thinks not having safety measures is epic and le futuristic.
I drove one of these a few times and it's just overrated as shit. The torque factor stops being cool after 20 minutes. The screen is prone to breaking for no reason, and multiple aspects of the car are locked behind $5k-10k paywalls.
As much as I don't want to give credit to redditors, they've been pretty hostile to Teslas since Elon went to team wrongthink.

And in this case this is a perfect example as to why too much electronic shit can be really bad.
 
Why do Redditors and pajeets love these death traps so fucking much?


I think you're a few years late on the redditors. They hate Tesla with the power of a thousand suns now that Elon's a rightwinger.

As much as I don't want to give credit to redditors, they've been pretty hostile to Teslas since Elon went to team wrongthink.

And in this case this is a perfect example as to why too much electronic shit can be really bad.

They don't deserve any credit at all. The change in opinion was entirely due to unrelated politics. They'd still be sucking his cock otherwise even if Teslas were killing 10x more.
 
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This is more complicated than it might seem. The Teslas actually have more redundancy than conventional cars, but those redundant modes are more complicated. Consider a conventional car with a manual latch. If the child safety lock is engaged, the door can’t be opened at all. Even a normal car door would be hard to open after a crash because of the airbags and a virtually infinite number of failure modes that could cause the door to become inaccessible.
What happened to "Keep it simple, stupid?" Was it Elon showing his autistic retardation again?
 
You don't need to buy something that will be buried in your glove box to break your car windows. Remove your headrest and hit the window with the two metal rods that attach it to the seat.
Well for one you don't have to bury the hammer or equivalent device in your glove box. I keep mine in the drivers door panel pocket. Second, that depends on your model of headrest. I've found that in many newer model cars its not as easy to fully remove the headrest as it used to be. Third, even if removing the headrest is viable in your vehicle, it might not be viable in an emergency situation for a myriad of reasons. It makes a good back up plan and is definitely something to keep in mind when you're the passenger in another vehicle, but IMO its not an adequate substitute for a dedicated specialized tool.
 
People jail-break shit all the time when an update or problem bricks an expensive electronic and its design prevents it from working or being repaired.
That theme of losing control when dealing with highly engineered shitty modern products has advanced to "five enter, one leave."
I hope these kinds of things kill more people. It's very dystopian, worrying, and sobering!
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A cheap and poor solution to not having a tool is using the headrest... but it seems like you need a flat tool to remove it.
I bet you they were shitting themselves when they couldn't remove the headrests. I also bet you that they were using auto-pilot. Imagine the conversation and panic as they cooked alive. So dramatic. So entertaining. Let your mind run wild with Indian faces melting as five differing personas of varying guilt, relations, and relatability take hold and play out a tragic end alongside one another as traffic and life pass them and their soon-to-be slow dramatic deaths to a stupid problem far out of sight and mind.
And remember, you bought this.
 
Oh how trag-

Nevermind.

This is why you should always have one of those window smashing hammers or alike in your car. In this case it was an electrical failure but even a normal car can find itself in a situation where breaking the windows is the only means of escape, being submerged in water is the most common example.
How hard is it to punch through a window if you know you're going to die and your body dumped all the adrenaline into your bloodstream?

I feel like it would pretty easy unless you're from a race that has the lowest grip strength in the world.
 
I think you're a few years late on the redditors. They hate Tesla with the power of a thousand suns now that Elon's a rightwinger.



They don't deserve any credit at all. The change in opinion was entirely due to unrelated politics. They'd still be sucking his cock otherwise even if Teslas were killing 10x more.
They've went full on we've always been at war with EastAsia mode on Musk and pretend that they've never liked him.
 
What happened to "Keep it simple, stupid?" Was it Elon showing his autistic retardation again?
KISS is about maintenance and repair. It doesn’t really apply here. Safety is primarily about providing redundant solutions to the most stochastically damaging failure modes. In a conventional vehicle the most likely failure mode is a frontal collision leading to ejection from the seat. The solution is keeping the passenger in the seat while either deflecting or absorbing as much external energy as possible. Unfortunately we have learned that EVs have a really bad fire failure mode and the solution to that is allowing the passenger to exit the vehicle and get as far away from it as quickly as possible. This is in conflict with the first solution.
 
People jail-break shit all the time when an update or problem bricks an expensive electronic and its design prevents it from working or being repaired.
That theme of losing control when dealing with highly engineered shitty modern products has advanced to "five enter, one leave."
I hope these kinds of things kill more people. It's very dystopian, worrying, and sobering!
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A cheap and poor solution to not having a tool is using the headrest... but it seems like you need a flat tool to remove it.

I bet you they were shitting themselves when they couldn't remove the headrests. I also bet you that they were using auto-pilot. Imagine the conversation and panic as they cooked alive. So dramatic. So entertaining. Let your mind run wild with Indian faces melting as five differing personas of varying guilt, relations, and relatability take hold and play out a tragic end alongside one another as traffic and life pass them and their soon-to-be slow dramatic deaths to a stupid problem far out of sight and mind.
And remember, you bought this.
Lmfao sooo you have a screwdriver which can break the glass, and you use it to detach the headrest to break the glass? :story:IMG_2953.jpeg
 
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