Homebrew HRT Community - From mixing estradiol with bioadhesives to cooking plastic bags.

[Male Idiot]

Ah feels like the 20s again, extreme inflation, homebrew narcotics, death and disease, antisemitism, open faggotry, digital stasi. Now all we need are the camps.

The margins are actual trash and barely profitable, it's really a labour of love to be selling blackmarket HRT.

Damnit I was looking forward to troonshining maffia antics like it is the prohibition.

 

[Rekieta’s Broken Penis]

Chemicals aren't magic. Everything is made of chemicals. Some kinds of chemistry need a perfectly sterile lab and multimillion dollar pieces of equipment, and some kinds are done in dirty wooden barrels and holes dug in the ground. Suspending estriadol in oil is basic-bitch simple and doesn't need some cartel superlab to manage. Any moderately clean flat working surface and a heat source is enough.

Plus this is just intramuscular, isn’t it? What’s the most likely complication, an infection? Drug abusers mainline worse junk.

 

[Dyn]

Plus this is just intramuscular, isn’t it? What’s the most likely complication, an infection? Drug abusers mainline worse junk.

Most likely would be an annoying little encysted pocket that feels like a pebble under the skin and takes a month or two to absorb back into the body. All the really horrific complications would come from being reckless and wild with their injection practices.

 

[Dawdler]

I wonder if the average kitchen is still a relatively clean environment compared to high volume troonshine labs where vials go out full of their cat's ass hair

Kitchen is problematic due to mold spores and yeast (from bread) etc.
Not to say lab enviroment is any better, but it is cleaner and first role in a lab is not to eat food there.
Boiling (pasterurisation) will solve a part of contamination, however, the whole thing is dangerous.
Injectables are very strictly regulated.

Plus this is just intramuscular, isn’t it? What’s the most likely complication, an infection? Drug abusers mainline worse junk.

Deep staph infection or similar. What a joy.

 

[latinlover]

Wow, trannies are sure late to the party. In my local gym people 10 years ago were already exchanging the recipes and ratios to make shit like EQ and tren at home, it takes one batch of bunk gear from some underground lab for a PED abusing bodybuilder to take interest in DIY chemistry. Hell, most of the steroid discussion forums have 'homebrew threads' in them I'm pretty sure.

Hygiene concerns aside it really isn't rocket science, the few tools you do need are really easy to acquire, so while trannies marketing and selling the whole kit is hilarious the concept has already been around for a long time.

 

[UnFuNnYmEmE]

Someone should order a kit and post pics of it here, use the liquid to water plants or some shit

I would, but I don't want to:
1. send these people money
2. purchase illegal drugs
3. give these people my address

 

[Frankenhooker69]

When you compare the DIY HRT shit to other grey market businesses, like research chemical/designer drug companies it really highlights how trannies can get away with fucking anything. Research chemical vendors have to be super explicit that the drugs they're selling totally aren't intended for human usage and you definitely shouldn't take any of them, and that nobody under 18/19/21 should use their site, while troons can just be super open about how they hope young teenagers take their shit for the express purpose of trooning out. Discussing clearnet research chemical vendors anywhere online is strictly forbidden, and its basically impossible to find any discussion about specific vendors online, but reddit trannies can literally link estrogen vendors and discuss vendors with literally zero impunity. Frankly it's fucking ridiculous and I'd like to thank you for listening to my TED talk.

When you compare the DIY HRT shit to other grey market businesses, like research chemical/designer drug companies it really highlights how trannies can get away with fucking anything. Research chemical vendors have to be super explicit that the drugs they're selling totally aren't intended for human usage and you definitely shouldn't take any of them, and that nobody under 18/19/21 should use their site, while troons can just be super open about how they hope young teenagers take their shit for the express purpose of trooning out. Discussing clearnet research chemical vendors anywhere online is strictly forbidden, and its basically impossible to find any discussion about specific vendors online, but reddit trannies can literally link estrogen vendors and discuss vendors with literally zero impunity. Frankly it's fucking ridiculous and I'd like to thank you for listening to my TED talk.

facts. the days of chemsrus, euphoric knowledge and buying kilos of pevee and mxe from kk.pu and SI are long gone, but not forgotten,at least here.

 

[Egregore]

Oh boy, what an insane new development. Once new pictures begin to emerge, I can't wait to play the fun new family game called "Krokodil or Troonshine?".

 

[Chocola]

Why is DIY hrt always for TIMs and not TIFs? Where is that Trans unity?

men are more creative and hands on, as usual

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

More proof Walter White would’ve made more money selling black market HRT than meth.

 

[Masturbator]

They're operating under the delusion that estrogen is some kind of miracle drug that will reshape their skeletons, faces, skin and bodies into the women they always dreamed of, when at best it does nothing, and at worst it gives them some sad looking tubular manboobs and turns their bones into chalk. Trannies genuinely believe human biology is malleable and can be reshaped to whatever they want.

this shit is like mutagen from cdda you chug it for some realshit mutations only to find out you are about to fucking die

 

[Two by Four]

We're going to start by cleaning the area around our workspace. Use a damp cloth to wipe down everything close by

Step one and you've already fucked any hope of sterile procedure. Congratulations on creating a suspension every microbe in the immediate area, on your hands, in your stanky ass sponge, and in your tap-water, and then literally coating your work area with it.

I say this as someone who did a fair bit of sterile lab work in university; this is quite possibly the worst thing to do. Doing nothing would be preferable to this. Pissing on everything first would be a better option as at least that liquid is going to be marginally cleaner than unfiltered water and unwashed goonclown hands.

I will bet eleven dollarydoos there's at least one case of sepsis or a deep-tissue staph infection popping up within a week of these kits going out. I pray for an eventual youtube video from that meme guy. "A gooner injected [her]self with homemade troonshine, this is what happened to [her] prostate... "

 

[Schlomo Silverscreenblatt]

They think they're master alchemists from skyrim when they're just gonna blow up like that breaking bad scene

 

[DumbDude43]

I can't speak for the synthesis itself, but to me it's kind of wild that it is something you could realistically do at a kitchen counter.

they aren't doing any actual synthesis on their kitchen counters. they buy their estrogen pre-made in powder form.
their "homebrew" shit is just dissolving the estrogen powder in benzyl alcohol and neutral oil to create a liquid that is suitable for injection.

 

[Otterly]

Yeah when I was in the lab I just wiped it down with a damp cloth, totally fine. No need to scrub the surface to remove larger dirt then finish with a 70% ethanol spray and wipe down. No need to do certain things in a clean cabinet ever. Just a damp cloth, totally fine. Do enjoy the inevitable sepsis.
Also benzl alcohol. Yes it’s used in very low quantities in injectables but you have to be careful with it, it degrades in contact with air to benzaldehyde which isn’t a fun thing to inject.
Honestly I have no idea why we even had autoclaves in the lab, we could have just used an instant pot. Why bother with a reverse osmosis fancy distilled water machine? I mean you can’t SEE the bacteria and fungi can you? Totally fine.
I’d let them do it but they target kids as well.

 

[AfghanBlue]

If I ran a site hawking unlicensed insulin I’d be a convicted felon in a matter of months.

If I ran a site in sellin unlicensed hawks, I'd be a convicted falcon in a matter of weeks.

I should almost start a DIY HRT business and send them… Jack shit.

Fellow kiwis, would this be morally wrong?

On one hand I’d be taking money from degenerates.

I was just pondering the same thing honestly.
The way people used to pull the rug on things like the silk road etc, was they would build up a small customer base for a while so they could get a few good reviews, and then when things got serious with big amounts of money coming, for hundreds of huge orders, that's when they disappeared, safe that noone would or could report them.

However for troons this would involve selling them some bullshit they would be injecting. Obv they are gonna be coasting on placebo as results aren't instant so you'd have time to gather happy reviews, but it would still suck and put you in a bit of a legal quandary even morally aside.
That said, people injected absolute filthy smack that's been under a fat Africans smelly ballsack mixed with god knows what.
The human body and circulatory system can take a surprising amount thrown at it before it packs in.
Think about how long junkies have to inject for, how many times a day, before they start getting problems. And that is injecting worse stuff and doing it messed up with often only slightly better or equal hygiene to troons.
You could look for some kind of saline sealed things. It would be safer than them having actual hrt.

Or you could just send them a kiwi fruit each and hold back on the orders for a few weeks until you were ready to sell them all at once, once and done.
Or a mocking postcard.

It would be useful to have something tracked as coming through the post in order to slow their suspicion and buy a few weeks to make more coin.
Then there'd be no morally murky fucking about like that.

It's obviously risky and bad and dishonest idea that noone should take advice to do, but it is one of those things that would make money easily with the bonus of not giving a shit that you you'd be ripping people off no matter how shitty they are anyway as people because you'd actually be doing them a favour, lol

That comment about pooners asking the biggest guy at the gym, LOL

 

[Baumstriezel]

they aren't doing any actual synthesis on their kitchen counters. they buy their estrogen pre-made in powder form.
their "homebrew" shit is just dissolving the estrogen powder in benzyl alcohol and neutral oil to create a liquid that is suitable for injection.

Leave it to trannies to make something like "making injectable drugs on your kitchen counter" lame and boring.

Edited to say @AfghanBlue thumbnail your pooner my nigga, it nearly gave me a heart attack

 

[Broadside]

Why do people report and try to stop mentally ill lunatics from permanently sterilizing themselves (and slow-mo killing themselves let's be honest)?
Isn't this a good thing?

 

[nigel p poppycock]

This reminds me of that Botched episode where that trans guy came in to have his face fixed because he was at a party and someone was walking around with syringes supposedly filled with filler, saying "who wants an injection" and he raised both hands and let a stranger fill his face with concrete. Of course the surgeons couldn't it and he looked like a melted candle.

I guess lack of common sense and an over abundance of yolo is what you need to inject yourself with chemicals of unknown origin from an unknown dealer.

 

[macrodegenerate]

“Set up your instant pot and steamer by filling the instant pot with roughly 1 inch (or water line just below the steamer) of filtered water. Place your vials inside the steamer basket, ensuring that they are not directly touching any water. Run at high pressure setting on pressure cook (with keep warm off) for 1 hour in an instant pot pro, or 2.5 hours in a normal instapot. Let cool, and remove your vials (steam can cause burns, be cautious)”

Jesus Christ, using food equipment for something you’re going to inject?

This would kill more people than anything

The sterilization tech's sound and works,even if it is McGuyvering. I used to use it when I was cooking up petri dish media. Never had a growth in any of the jars I filled, and that was with them stocked for months. Not sure if it works with a virus though.