Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[FiveStarAce]

I had a bad feeling while reading through this thread and decided to go check on my 14yo male cousin's Discord account. My gut instantly dropped when I saw that he now has "She/Her" in his pronouns. I wanted to believe that he probably simply had his account stolen (as another family member of mine had his account hacked a while ago) so I messaged him, but all signs are pointing to it actually being him. I don't know what to do or what to say. I don't even know what I should say to him. I'm hoping it's just another case of gen-Z being experimental and it's just a phase, but like... what the fuck, man.
I feel sick to my stomach. I don't even want to know where and how he got the idea, or who pushed him into doing it.
What the hell should I even do?

It's time to introduce excessive jokes about discord mods and groomers and let him know how hilariously pathetic that Lifestyle is

 

[Gingervitis]

Teenage boys are absolute sociopaths, so doing things like this is right up their alley.

Man, I wonder why he’s trooning out. It can’t be that every aspect of our society seems to hate straight, white, moderate to conservative, introverted men and boys with a passion. It must only be the pr0n those sociopaths are watching, and absolutely nothing else.

It's time to introduce excessive jokes about discord mods and groomers and let him know how hilariously pathetic that Lifestyle is

I’d double down on this and go further. There’s more than enough information on the farms on the health problems involved in transitioning. Explain how hormones ravage their bodies, how they’ll never be able to feel sexual pleasure again, and how the suicide rates increase after surgery. Also explain the process of bottom surgery- speaking as a guy, men are very sensitive to genital pain, even when it’s not happening to them.

 

[King Dead]

My friend said she was baffled by just how delusional he became. Dude is 6'6 and was absolutely convinced that he would become a dainty woman and strangers would see him as such. He became immune to logic and reason. My friend now considers the person her boyfriend once was as deceased and is mouring him and the family they wanted but now will never exist. It's absolutely tragic.

The remark about who they were feeling literally dead is all too fitting, as I'm sure everyone in this thread with similar experiences can attest. It feels like a person that you've known for a long time--maybe months, maybe years, maybe your whole life--has been replaced entirely by a foreign mind occupying their body like a skinsuit. No matter how hard you look for their old self in there somewhere, it's simply gone.

And what's more unnerving is how the skinwalker is a carbon copy of every other troon out there. They all repeat the same leftist dogma, not just about tranny shit but about how we need to overthrow the government so we can enact a commie utopia or how police are all fascist enablers or how straight white men are oppressing everyone else (please ignore how many of them are also straight white men acting out a fetish). They all have the same bios, they make the same posts, they use the same terminology. It's like the most cringe-inducing hivemind ever conceived, and proof positive that trannies are a modern cult.

I don't know if their old selves can ever reemerge, honestly, or at least not from personal experience. All my former friends that have trooned out have yet to come to their senses. Maybe one day they will, but I just don't know if they'll ever be like how I remember them again.

 

[glass_houses]

Even before I knew his testosterone was gone, I started noticing that his smell was totally different.

So...

My father has both physical and mental health problems. He is extremely fastidious about his cleanliness, diet, and overall self care.

And when he's sick- either in his body or his head- I can smell it. I smell it when I enter the room, and know that he's either had a flair up or thrown one of his little tanties before he's even realised that I'm there.

I can smell other people if they've been fighting a particularly nasty bug, but never as strongly or as distinctly. Maybe there's some weird genetic quirk going on, but it's equally possible that this is one of those trauma responses that the pop health books and websites talk about. I don't know.

I do know that if the bodily scent of someone changes, even subtly and not at all unpleasant, that's when you need to pay attention. If their diet and hygiene hasn't changed, there's fuckery afoot. The human nose is pathetically weak and if something is strong enough to upset it, it's not a something that can be ignored.

 

[The Ugly One]

100% of my desire to be intimate with my boyfriend has evaporated. I just don't feel the desire to cuddle with him, go on dates with him, have sex with him... just any physical intimacy. It's like he's magically metamorphosed into a new species I can't feel attraction towards.

This is weird, but I kind of think it's because he's started HRT and doesn't have testosterone anymore? Nothing else has changed since then, we've been on the rocks for a while. Even before I knew his testosterone was gone, I started noticing that his smell was totally different. I used to smell his chest/ skin and my head would clear, it was intoxicating. It would shoot positive chemicals into my brain, and I would instantly feel a trillion percent better in all ways. But in the past two weeks, he's smelled totally different, and this phenomenon (that also happened with all of my past boyfriends) was no longer happening, to where I actively asked him if he was doing something different, not knowing about the hormone change.

I'm pretty sure it's because he's not making testosterone anymore, and there's some kind of pheromone thing happening. I know it sounds crazy, but it happened. It's a really, really weird feeling.

This is a 100% serious question:

What is the outcome you want for yourself? Are you hoping he snaps out of it, stops taking girl juice, and becomes a relatively normal man so you can stay with him and have a family with him? Do you genuinely see a future for yourself where you're 60 years old, you're partnered with a dickless mutant who wears a dress, and you've sacrificed the entire concept of family (you will have no kids and no grandkids) to support his gender-goblin antics?

Here's an elderly troon. He's an economist named Donald McCloskey who one day, up and abandoned his family so he could LARP as a woman. Is this what you want to be with?


Because your youth is a precious, fleeting resource. Every day, another piece of it burns away, never to be recovered. The "man" you're currently with has prioritized his fetish over you. He's destroying his body, and with it, any possibility of being a father or grandfather, in pursuit of it. And you're currently burning away your best years while he drowns himself deeper and deeper in his own obsession. His fetish is more important to him than you, and if he's this far gone, it always will be. He may say otherwise, but if a man goes as far as this level of self-destruction, his fetish is coming first, and you're barely even a person to him.

Do you really want that to be your life, for the rest of your life? If the answer is "no," there is no reason to delay ending it whatsoever. If it's going to end, end it now and spend your precious, irreplaceable time finding the relationship that's not going to end, not entertaining a guy who's poisoning his balls to death.

 

[You're MDNWU]

And you…you are dating a man whose primary concern is taking HRT so he can “have a nice butt.”

It's funny because if he'd just go to the gym and not skip leg day, he'd have a nice butt while producing more testosterone. More than likely would even grow out of trooning and just consider it a very, very weird time in his life.

But we all know how it'll actually turn out.

 

[FedPostalService]

It's funny because if he'd just go to the gym and not skip leg day, he'd have a nice butt while producing more testosterone. More than likely would even grow out of trooning and just consider it a very, very weird time in his life.

But we all know how it'll actually turn out.

I’m calling this a bait post. Any dude knows there’s a massive difference between the arses of men and women.

Not sure if you’re a poofter, so a woman’s arse wouldn’t be more appealing to either of you.

If you’re a straight woman and your partner is a self hating gay man who wants a girly arse not for it to look good but for it to me pounded by random men and you’d be smart enough to realise that if you posted here.

 

[Lavender Moth]

But in the past two weeks, he's smelled totally different, and this phenomenon (that also happened with all of my past boyfriends) was no longer happening, to where I actively asked him if he was doing something different, not knowing about the hormone change.

Pheromones play a huge role in attraction even if we aren't consciously aware of them, so this sadly doesn't surprise me. Like clockwork, this same kind of thing has happened to all my female friends who have gone on the troonshine. They weren't even friends I was attracted to, but they still noticeably went from smelling nice to smelling like a repelling mix of cheese and stale sweat.

Giving you all the well wishes and solidarity hugs from across the way. My own partner did the same shit to me and it left me devastated. I wasn't with her nearly as long as you've been with your bf, so I can only imagine how painful it must be. I hope the future is kinder to you.

 

[FedPostalService]

play a huge role in attraction even if we aren't consciously aware of them

I though there was almost zero evidence for this in humans?

 

[Kent Allard]

I though there was almost zero evidence for this in humans?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4375873/#:~:text=As%20humans%20are%20mammals%2C%20it,%2C%20androstenol%2C%20androstadienone%20and%20estratetraenol.

We do not yet know if humans have pheromones. However, to find out, we will need a new approach, applying the rigorous techniques that have been effective in the discovery of pheromones in other mammals. The steroid molecules, such as androstadienone and estratetraenol, which have been claimed to be pheromones so widely and inappropriately, should be put aside. The new search will benefit from the techniques developed by olfactory researchers including those who have worked on the steroids previously. Human pheromone researchers could lead the field in embracing more rigorous protocols to reduce study biases. Some behaviours of babies do appear to be mediated by pheromones. These should perhaps be our focus initially before we take on other human behaviours for which we do not yet have robust bioassays. If a human mammary pheromone were to be found it would give greater confidence to researchers contemplating the search for other human pheromones.
It may be that we will find that there are no pheromones in humans. But we can be sure that we shall never find anything if we follow the current path. We need to start again.

 

[soup peddler]

What is the outcome you want for yourself? Are you hoping he snaps out of it, stops taking girl juice, and becomes a relatively normal man so you can stay with him and have a family with him?

This exactly. I want him to be the version of himself he is when we went camping with my brother this summer... the charismatic, fun, really pretty masculine guy who just happens to have long hair.

I was holding on because I love who he is as a man, and just thought this would be a phase he'd realize was stupid, but it's just been getting worse. And regardless, like you said, we're both just hemorrhaging time. The way he uses his time is just horrifying to me and I don't want to be personally bound by it

I've essentially 100% come to terms with breaking up once I move out at the end of the year

 

[You're MDNWU]

I’m calling this a bait post. Any dude knows there’s a massive difference between the arses of men and women.

Not sure if you’re a poofter, so a woman’s arse wouldn’t be more appealing to either of you.

If you’re a straight woman and your partner is a self hating gay man who wants a girly arse not for it to look good but for it to me pounded by random men and you’d be smart enough to realise that if you posted here.

What part of "having a nice ass" from the post I was replying to or my post have anything to do with a man's ass, woman's ass, or getting fucked in the ass?


You understand that both sexes are capable of having a "nice ass" respective of each sex, correct?

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

and just thought this would be a phase he'd realize was stupid,

He believes in tranny ideology. He is a member of a tranny cult now. Even if it's a phase, you don't know when this phase will end. It could be years and what will be left is a dickless, ruined shell of a man. Get out quickly!

but it's just been getting worse.

Typical for a cult. There is nothing you can do for him.

 

[FedPostalService]

What part of "having a nice ass" from the post I was replying to or my post have anything to do with a man's ass, woman's ass, or getting fucked in the ass?


You understand that both sexes are capable of having a "nice ass" respective of each sex, correct?

It has everything to do with everything. i think you might be a troon now by pretending there is no difference

 

[deermeat]

you know imma be honest.
whenever I see the troons I knew post pics of them going to cafes, buying expensive music equipment, going to concerts within various states, canoeing, museums, new clothes all the time, getting their hair done etc, all surrounded by friends (and "partners"... hes poly lol)..... I'm actually glad they are going to die young and miserable, I'm glad they're miserable. Because this whole time they get to enjoy luxuries, they are pretending to be an oppressed low income minority. Meanwhile theyve made fun of people like me in the past, and have always lived a privileged life.

Ive been struggling real bad and seeing that shit almost makes me MATI or really mad at life in general. Why do all the stupid people end up with the most kusky, comfortable lives? Because all they do is fuck it up for themselves, but since their life is so kush other than becoming physically and mentally ill they never get to suffer true consequences for their actions. They'll always have some sort of support network of well-meaning people They don't care about anyone other than themself so using people means nothing to them.

Meanwhile people like me who are merely born into things gotta be stuck on the struggle bus, too socially anxious to reach out in fear of attracting these types of people. And any friends we do make, they are also on the struggle bus in terms of being poor.

This dude be posting GoFundMes about how much hes "struggling" but then be posting videos of him at concerts in another state shortly after. Youre not allowed to punch down on these people without coming across like an asshole which is unfair.

I get sad about how morbid it is that these people are gonna die young but fuck. Sometimes its for the best.

 

[Jean d'Arc]

Meanwhile theyve made fun of people like me in the past, and have always lived a privileged life.

That's a core part of the gender cult. These people's minds are the perfect storm of privilege, mental illness, egocentricism, and just straight up having a mean personality. They'll forever be unhappy inside themselves and angry at the world while failing to realize it's their own fault.

When I was a lot younger I dated a guy who was fun and charismatic when other people were around but became solipsistic and moody when alone. Everything bad that happened was a personal slight to him. At one point when nobody had given him enough attention in a while, or something, he came out as bisexual. Told everyone he knew, but I learned at a later point that he never saw himself as anything but straight. As one would expect, he wasn't exactly a kind person to me so I broke things off. A couple of years after the fact he reached out to me to say that he was 'different from before' and every bad thing he did was because 'he was in denial of his true self' so I find him on social media and of course he had trooned out. I'm sure he hasn't actually changed in the slightest.

Anyway that's what transgenderism means to me, people who are mean at their core and will forever be unhappy, may they live and die by the hells they've created for themselves.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Anyway that's what transgenderism means to me, people who are mean at their core and will forever be unhappy

There's this but I get the impression that laziness is another key component. I'm not exactly sure how or why it comes together like it does but the pattern is undeniable. One of the lolcows I follow closely is the perfect example- fake disabled, fake academic, fake Jew, fake Latino, sits around grifting GFM and trying to get adult protective services called on her ass so she can get a live-in maid.

Normal people would be mortified, ashamed, to have to resort to such measures to survive. But for troons it's just another Tuesday.

The one I am dealing with irl has told medical providers that "having to do washing up" is a trigger for suicidality. Again- this is just part of their disease. Mysterious.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

There's this but I get the impression that laziness is another key component. I'm not exactly sure how or why it comes together like it does but the pattern is undeniable. One of the lolcows I follow closely is the perfect example- fake disabled, fake academic, fake Jew, fake Latino, sits around grifting GFM and trying to get adult protective services called on her ass so she can get a live-in maid.

It looks just like laziness, but it's avoiding work to avoid failure. You can't fail if a "condishun" puts it out of your hands. Not only are they not blameworthy for doing nothing, they're praiseworthy for what little the do because "surviving" is a full time job.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

It looks just like laziness, but it's avoiding work to avoid failure. You can't fail if a "condishun" puts it out of your hands. Not only are they not blameworthy for doing nothing, they're praiseworthy for what little the do because "surviving" is a full time job.

Good point. So maybe it really is just the basic narcissistic personality structure. Because that fear of finding out they really are a failure is a big part of the NPD and why all the defenses rise up to protect the ego from that possibility.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

OH GOD THEY JUST KEEP COMING. HOW CAN THERE POSSIBLY STILL BE MORE OF THEM? WHEN WILL IT END?

The temptation to self-dox is overpowering. I cannot even believe what I am seeing unfold before my eyes in real life.

These sick fucks truly ruin everything they touch. Worse than bedbugs and smallpox and black mold combined.