Transformers general thread - Toy Robot men based on giant robots based on previously mentioned toys about said robots

[Space Police]

they had to take on unicron twice in the show(while in armada they already defeated him) and then still had 10 more episodes of just super energon nonsense.

I tend to evaluate things based on individual episodes rather than ongoing storylines. Sure, Unicron may have been a bit overused, but it's nothing awful.

everything looks like ass because of the cell shading is not being scaled most of the time,

I actually think it looks good because of how faithful to the toys it is.

kicker is also the worst human companion there ever was, he is paired with ironhide but kicks and abused him so much you start to wonder who's side he's even on.

Every 2000s mecha/toku had a character kind of like that (looking at you, Athrun and Armada Starscream).

so they just transform into cars IN SPACE TO DRIVE.

And that's super cool!

Explains why Zeon Mobile Suits are my favorites out of any designs in Gundam.

If only there were more transforming monoeyes . . . Zuoot HG never ever.

Alright everyone, who’s your favourite?

Character and design-wise, Armada Starscream. Design-wise, I'd have too many to list, especially many of them are the toy-exclusive SNCA ones.

 

[Niggerphobe]

who was that gal who husbando-ed Optimus with bad fanart to go along with it?

That’s a lot of transformers fans that do that

 

[Starscream's Loyalty]

Alright everyone, who’s your favourite?
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Galvatron is always gonna be mine, I remember watching a taped VHS version of the movie off of YTV (Canadian Nickelodeon) and before this, my experience with TF was the UT shows.

God damn did this purple bastard leave a mark, badass voice, much better design, somehow more ruthless than the guy who led a massacre in the start of the movie, iced Starscream and to cap it off, he tried to crush Hot Rod’s throat. When I watched the cartoon years later…….. I was let down.

Consistently my favourite TF character and he needs to be seperate from Megs so we don’t have to lose one to get the other. IDW and Marvel tackled that very well.

Most of his iterations, my brain says 'giant robo Eeyore'. Prime is just very admirable and a damn good fighter. And rolls with the punches when need be. I guess I'm just a sucker for TF characters voiced by people who were involved in Winne the Pooh projects too. I can admit that. It's very much for emotional reasons.

 

[Humble Architect]

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Most of his iterations, my brain says 'giant robo Eeyore'. Prime is just very admirable and a damn good fighter. And rolls with the punches when need be. I guess I'm just a sucker for TF characters voiced by people who were involved in Winne the Pooh projects too. I can admit that. It's very much for emotional reasons.

Bro that one’s obvious, everyone loves Optimus Prime, he’s the successor to Superman’s “red and blue alien who adopts Earth and loves everybody” mantle.

Granted, he has some bad versions but Optimus is up there with Spider-Man and Batman as universally loved characters.

Even if, like Superman the company who owns him treats him like crap and doesn’t realize the worth of what they own. Skybound’s iteration is the best iteration in a long time, I liked IDW Optimus Prime, controversial though he was, even if he was more Peter Weller instead of Peter Cullen

Optimus is best when they let him be a bit fun, like cracking one-liners and undoubtedly grinning under that mouthplate as he kicks ass.

I’ve wanted an “Old Man Optimus” story for years now, his version of Dark Knight Returns, Kingdom Come or Old Man Logan. Simon Furman had an idea for one, I think it got published as a con-exclusive handout.

 

[el bandito loco]

like I said my favorite is probably any variation of starscream because he makes me laugh, but I really like shockwave because he's typically a scary motherfucker. if it ain't them, it's grimlock. dinosaurs kick ass.

what's funniest to me about the bay movies, is optimus himself. someone pointed this out to me once and it has totally informed any time I have seen part of them on tv since. but optimus typically is all about protecting life and shit, and in the movies he's a bloodthirsty motherfucker. in the end of the one with sentinel prime, megatron shows up and saves him and optimus rips his fucking spine out from his head like a mortal kombat character directly after megatron tells him he wants a truce. the movies are filled with shit like that. did megatron deserve it? yeah he killed tons of people and autobots, and was probably going to stab optimus in the back 10 minutes later, but still man somebody offers you a truce it's a pretty inappropriate reaction to rip their spine out by their neck.

I know a lot of people thought Bumblebee and Rise of Beasts were a step up from those movies, but personally I thought they fuckin' sucked minus some of the designs. mainly because the bay movies have a unique charm that exists only in them, and stripping them of it just made shitty live action transformers movies without anything else going for them. this charm is best summed up as they're too juvenile for an adult, and too crass for a child. they are just fucking insane. they feel like you gave an 8th grader some blow and told them to snort some lines and write a movie. never once as a kid did I think to myself "I sure wish Spike's mom would accuse him of jacking off", "I sure wish Bumblebee would take a piss on the pedophile from the Big Lebowski", or "I bet devastator has huge wrecking balls for testicles" but that's what we got.

they're fascinating to look at, they all look like a billion dollars is being vomited on the screen and bar the first one they don't even try to be particularly coherent. they take pretty big dumps on the transformers characters with some exceptions but really they're so fucking weird that they exist the way they do it doesn't really matter.

 

[The Lawgiver]

optimus rips his fucking spine out from his head like a mortal kombat character directly after megatron tells him he wants a truce. the movies are filled with shit like that. did megatron deserve it? yeah he killed tons of people and autobots, and was probably going to stab optimus in the back 10 minutes later, but still man somebody offers you a truce it's a pretty inappropriate reaction to rip their spine out by their neck.

I could be remembering this wrong but I thinkt here was some shit somewhere that said the truce/team up was going to actually be the original ending but got scrapped for reasons.

 

[Hope Eradicated]

I could be remembering this wrong but I thinkt here was some shit somewhere that said the truce/team up was going to actually be the original ending but got scrapped for reasons.

The novelization ends with Optimus accepting the truce, and the Decepticons leaving to go rebuild Cybertron.

 

[el bandito loco]

I could be remembering this wrong but I thinkt here was some shit somewhere that said the truce/team up was going to actually be the original ending but got scrapped for reasons.

that probably would have been a better ending, but I'm kinda glad they did what they did just because something as ridiculous as Optimus performing a fatality on megatron is inherently funny to me. i'm the only person on the planet who thinks those movies got better as they went because they just devolved into something so strange they have to be seen to be believed. the first one is a pretty valiant attempt to update the 80s show to a serious live action movie but the writing's on the wall in it for the weird shit to come with the aforementioned bumblebee pissing and the mom talking about beating off. then the second one has a subplot devoted to weed brownies and cuts to two chihuahua's fucking. seriously I think a 14 year old boy wrote that movie laughing his ass off. the third one just reveals transformers have been on the moon and somehow some government guys knew, but the other government guys from the last two weren't in on it, and optimus acts like a war criminal. the fourth one has a guy carrying around a card to explain why he gets to have sex with a minor and steve jobs makes galvatron for some reason, and the last one reveals excalibur was a cybertronian weapon and king arthur, merlyn and the knights of the round table are just known historical fact in that universe and that shia died unceremoniously offscreen and is revealed by fucking hannibal lecter. they're fucking insane. oh yeah and planet earth is just unicron.

when you take out the batshit crazy you get bumblebee and rise of the beasts which are probably better as movies but still just neutered transformers adaptations without any of the I can't believe I am seeing this of the prior movies.

 

[The Lawgiver]

The novelization ends with Optimus accepting the truce, and the Decepticons leaving to go rebuild Cybertron.

Ah so it's one of the cases where the novelization is just the earlier version of the script before final release adapted into actual book format like the indiana jones ones I got a hardback compilation of somewhere? Or is it like weird added nonsense shit like the one schizophrenic novelization of earthbound people talked about a few years ago? Or the horrible star wars sequel trilogy ones that actively just try to fill in plot holes by doing shit like claiming palpatine was all burnt and shrivelled on life support because he was a clone?

hen the second one has a subplot devoted to weed brownies and cuts to two chihuahua's fucking. seriously I think a 14 year old boy wrote that movie laughing his ass off.

Don't forget the dick cannon goblin baby or the twins people claimed were racist caricatures lmao. That and the fact devastator shows up in the movie as a new character despite him being a tank in the previous movie.
Bayverse was weird because you had these hints at really deeplore shit that felt like it was buiding somewhere and then they did nothing with by the last 2 and just started bringing n new ones that got destroyed by the series getting rebooted. t also had weirdly n depth tie in stuff that actually is probably where most of the popularity of those designs comes from like the video games.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Grumpy Animated PTSD Ratchet is best character, change my mind.

 

[el bandito loco]

Don't forget the dick cannon goblin baby or the twins people claimed were racist caricatures lmao. That and the fact devastator shows up in the movie as a new character despite him being a tank in the previous movie.
Bayverse was weird because you had these hints at really deeplore shit that felt like it was buiding somewhere and then they did nothing with by the last 2 and just started bringing n new ones that got destroyed by the series getting rebooted. t also had weirdly n depth tie in stuff that actually is probably where most of the popularity of those designs comes from like the video games.

those twins are racist caricatures lmao I think I have only seen the 2nd one three times, I saw a bootleg of it a week before it came out (my uncle ran a fireworks stand and I was there and this guy was like hey can I get some free shit if I hook you and your kid up with a bootleg dvd of the new transformers that isn't out yet I have in my truck and my uncle said fuck yeah you can and we watched it on the little tv we showed demo tapes of the fireworks on in the tent that night), I saw it for my friend's birthday in theaters a few weeks later and then when the dvd came out another friend bought it and we watched it after school one weekend. but I swear to god I remember one of them mentioning fried chicken which only sticks in my mind because I remember thinking what the fuck they're robots they don't eat? these are nigga robots. that might not be in there and I just imagined that but it has lived rent free in my brain for 15 years.

anyways the thing about the movies is the only thing I fucking wanted out of them was unicron. and by the time we got it in 5 and rise of the beasts, we did literally nothing other than say he exists in both basically and it really pissed me off. I was under the impression that was going to be the 3rd one because when we watched the dvd of 2 in the bonus features there was some unicron related thing in it and I was so excited for that and then when 3 came out it had absolutely dick to do with unicron and I was pissed off. I haven't seen it in years but I remember the one thing I liked about that movie was John Malkovich thinking he walked in on shia blowing mr chow from the hangover (again you can't even make this shit up those movies are insane) and they let a little robot say fuck which for whatever reason I found insanely hilarious we had a transformers movie, where one says the word fuck.

honestly the last knight was mostly terrible I was excited to see evil optimus prime but he's barely in it and really doesn't do anything evil besides beat the shit out of bumblebee. BUT for the first time I was excited going forward after that one because unicron being earth I thought was set up for something really crazy and cool where they brought cybertron to earth or something and I thought when we got the next one they could do cool shit like have people living on cybertron and it be like a weird mixed autobot city culture where people and transformers live together in a society and would be something unique and then they could have unicron wake up and kick his ass and blow the earth to shit in the next one and just replace it with cybertron and go full wacko but then they fucking rebooted with the next movie and I was like son of a bitch I am never getting a live action unicron. then in rise of the beasts halfway through it they started talking about unicron and i was like oh shit this movie might go somewhere cool and nope, they cucked me again. now I don't even want unicron at all I just want them to stop unless they get bay back to do a transformers 6 and let him waste another half a bill on a sequel to the last knight that is just whatever bullshit he feels like throwing on the screen and has nothing to do with anything that you should probably think twice before taking the intended target audience of a 6 year old boy to.

I kind of want to rewatch all of them. I've only seen them all a handful of times besides if they're on tv i'll always turn them on so I've seen random parts of all of them a bunch of times but they're just so fucking weird they've locked themselves in my brain. I wouldn't call any of them any good after the first but I do think they're highly entertaining although probably for all the wrong reasons.

 

[Humble Architect]

Optimus Prime’s “ruthless” tendencies have been there well since the 80s, remember the 86 movie where he was gonna stone-cold execute Megs?

The berserker rage was an addition from Armada and it made those movie fights better, he fights like a war god, which he technically is.

Optimus is a soldier, he ices threats if they are set on a path that leads to loss of life, strive for peace, prepare for war, that sorta thing. So I’ve got no problem with him drowning Scourge in magma or him tearing the Fallen apart.

He’s a good guy, just don’t piss him off. Unlike a Batman or Superman, Optimus has been fighting in an intergalactic forever war longer than we’ve been a race.

 

[Monk Amen]

Alright everyone, who’s your favourite?
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Galvatron is always gonna be mine, I remember watching a taped VHS version of the movie off of YTV (Canadian Nickelodeon) and before this, my experience with TF was the UT shows.

God damn did this purple bastard leave a mark, badass voice, much better design, somehow more ruthless than the guy who led a massacre in the start of the movie, iced Starscream and to cap it off, he tried to crush Hot Rod’s throat. When I watched the cartoon years later…….. I was let down.

Consistently my favourite TF character and he needs to be seperate from Megs so we don’t have to lose one to get the other. IDW and Marvel tackled that very well.

Kup is a underated character who perfectly embodied the rough and tough mentor who refused to kneel and i despise how he's never used in modern media.

I also cant think of a moment where Beast Megs sucked to watch, the voice, the design, and personality carried both shows for me.

Edit: frenzy screaming ACK is fucking WILD.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I am 25 episodes into my Cybertron rewatch (been basically 20 years since i last seen it). I'm not giving my full review yet, that's for when I get to the end. But it is getting KINO, upgraded from the status of merely "2005 fun nostalgic silliness with cool explosion effects".

Ngl, the Invasion arc has raised the bar, and the show is becoming self aware in all the right ways. I'm remembering why I love this show. It took a minute, and lots of cgi fights, but greatness has been reached.


Basically when the Cybertron Defence Team upgrade happens, shit gets gud. They start putting their spark into it.

Also, side note, kudos to the dub actors. I don't consider the job of turning Galaxy Force into Cybertron a easy job, but they gave it everything they had and went hard. Rip Gary Chalk's vocal cords, Optimus is always yelling epicly lol

 

[King Of Braves]

Also, side note, kudos to the dub actors. I don't consider the job of turning Galaxy Force into Cybertron a easy job, but they gave it everything they had and went hard. Rip Gary Chalk's vocal cords, Optimus is always yelling epicly lol

Have you noticed there's no such thing as a dramatic pause anywhere? It's pretty funny.

Also never understood why Nitro Convoy was turned into a female bot for Cybertron. It's not like there weren't any ladybots in the show.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Have you noticed there's no such thing as a dramatic pause anywhere? It's pretty funny.

Dude it's hilarious. No pauses, must constantly have noise. The directors were on coke. It makes the show fly by though, you're constantly having SOMETHING happen lmao, even if it's just some dude shouting "yeah!".

Also never understood why Nitro Convoy was turned into a female bot for Cybertron. It's not like there weren't any ladybots in the show.

I think it works, never had a problem personally. I think it might have been due to timing. Override was introduced early where all the bots were guys. It broke up the flow. I think it also made the little sister thing with Lori less weird/less anime for the west. Hasbro didn't want backlash I think.

 

[Starscream's Loyalty]

Optimus Prime’s “ruthless” tendencies have been there well since the 80s, remember the 86 movie where he was gonna stone-cold execute Megs?

The berserker rage was an addition from Armada and it made those movie fights better, he fights like a war god, which he technically is.

Optimus is a soldier, he ices threats if they are set on a path that leads to loss of life, strive for peace, prepare for war, that sorta thing. So I’ve got no problem with him drowning Scourge in magma or him tearing the Fallen apart.
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He’s a good guy, just don’t piss him off. Unlike a Batman or Superman, Optimus has been fighting in an intergalactic forever war longer than we’ve been a race.

I uniroinically enjoy it when Prime gose full Mortal Kombat on cons. Shows how real a fight can get. Fuck the truce, your ass in done!

 

[AFAB]

those twins are racist caricatures lmao I think I have only seen the 2nd one three times, I saw a bootleg of it a week before it came out (my uncle ran a fireworks stand and I was there and this guy was like hey can I get some free shit if I hook you and your kid up with a bootleg dvd of the new transformers that isn't out yet I have in my truck and my uncle said fuck yeah you can and we watched it on the little tv we showed demo tapes of the fireworks on in the tent that night), I saw it for my friend's birthday in theaters a few weeks later and then when the dvd came out another friend bought it and we watched it after school one weekend. but I swear to god I remember one of them mentioning fried chicken which only sticks in my mind because I remember thinking what the fuck they're robots they don't eat? these are nigga robots. that might not be in there and I just imagined that but it has lived rent free in my brain for 15 years.

Funny thing is that the twins weren't even intended to be racist - Tom Kenny and Reno Wilson were doing some improv by playing the twins as wiggers but apparently something got lost in translation.

Alright everyone, who’s your favourite?

All the versions of Blackarachnia/Airachnid are solid in my book. Good designs and great personalities, plus their voice work is solid.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

I thought they were supposed to be rednecks

 

[King Of Braves]

I thought they were supposed to be rednecks

Rednecks in the same vein as juggalos, I think.