Plagued John Cameron Denton & Atomwaffen Division / Siegeculture - Satanic Vampire Neo-Nazis, autistic Strasserists, Helter Skelter cult

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The replies to my post were extremely high quality and I appreciate the in depth look at O9A. It seems like they're more of a real threat compared to Atomwaffen. 764 seems to be growing as a sinister network as well, which is concerning. I am unsure for how long though, since they've hit the public consciousness via mainstream news on them.
 
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Spamton G. Spamton said:
The replies to my post were extremely high quality and I appreciate the in depth look at O9A. It seems like they're more of a real threat compared to Atomwaffen. 764 seems to be growing as a sinister network as well, which is concerning. I am unsure for how long though, since they've hit the public consciousness via mainstream news on them.
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764 is defunct and allegedly disbanded, COM in general is in a steady decline and basically dead, and we're talking about something that is related to the ONA and Atomwaffen by 2 or 3 proxies. The media really hates to acknowledge the death of a group like this because it means no more headlines unless they find a new current thing to fearmonger about, "Atomwaffen members" are still being arrested despite it literally not existing in any way.
ONA itself seems to be growing, more people are aware of it than ever before, and the dust of the 2010s-early2020s is settling and there are already attempts to whitewash the ONA and distance it from the child molesters and the terrorists, but it have already suffered too much of a hit, several prominent members have left it, o9a.org is inactive and many internet communities are dead, and any attempt at IRL organization is a potential terrorist org charge, now combine it with negative media coverage and fill their communities with retarded mexican pedophiles and you'd get the current state of the ONA. ONA was literally constructed with criminalization and perseuction in mind, and the amount of actual practitioners is probably still twice the numbers they had 10 years ago, what I cant tell is how many of those are autistic wizards and how many are dangerous retards.
I'd advice you to pay close attention to small groups of mentally ill kids who would use the aesthetics of extremist groups the ideas of which can't even comprehend, the threat from them is very real, there's literally nothing more dangerous than a fatherless child, but you should also avoid falling for the manipulations of the feds and the media who really want to create a global terrorist threat because ISIS is dead and the Russians are busy in Ukraine. They'd conflate different groups into one, dig up long disbanded groups to tie them to recent crimes, designate a drunken fight as a ritualized hate crime, entrap literal middle schoolers, anything goes, the feds have recognized juggalos as a gang and almost recognized Ukraine's military as a foreign terrorist org, never underestimate their ability to turn any group of weirdos into a comic book villain to get more funding or take away more of your freedoms.
I keep writing walls of text in this thread and when I do I switch from my native language AAVE to normal English, I think I have Myattism.
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JFC imagine doing serious prison time for a political ethos that can be summed up like this:
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IDK man I'd catch a bullet for Gramps Nurgle. I cant deny that I wouldnt have read their shit if I wasnt looking for the IRL version of a Chaos legion or a Cthulhu cult that is 100% serious and not a postmodern "fiction is real if we believe in it" type
 
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Spamton G. Spamton said:
The replies to my post were extremely high quality and I appreciate the in depth look at O9A. It seems like they're more of a real threat compared to Atomwaffen. 764 seems to be growing as a sinister network as well, which is concerning. I am unsure for how long though, since they've hit the public consciousness via mainstream news on them.
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There is a 764 thread already. But yes, 764 and its offshoots have an almost endless supply of children that are joining and creating their own groups. If you look at any O9A Telegram groups, Telegram actually now recommends channels, and every single one of my recommended channels is 764 related. I can't recommend looking through them though, as they do post disgusting CSAM in there as promotional videos, and have "lorebooks" on people that they've abused. Truly sickening. Probably illegal to look at anyway, and Telegram actively saves every video you watch to your device.
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o9a.org is inactive and many internet communities are dead, and any attempt at IRL organization is a potential terrorist org
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I think going forward there's gonna be O9A presence in every nationalist group, and they'll simply spread from there. It's like what happened with the NSO9A or National Action. The O9A had a small period of re-growth, and is still growing to this day, but I can't see the O9A actually being a threat within itself as an organization.
 
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actually now recommends channels, and every single one of my recommended channels is 764 related
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Bruh actually insane, I've never used that function, now I look it up and yes it is full of comfag chans. And I couldnt find any when I was purposefully looking for them
even found a "lorebook list"
 
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Just some history: there was no 09A public and active in the late 80's or 90's. The emergence of O9A was a mid'ish 2010's phenomena.

While the O9A has a history from the 1970's, there was a long period of no one being interested until TOB, or someone, found the texts and got the thing going.

It wasn't a hibernation or reemergence, the O9A was abandoned and forgotten for a long time.
 
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Just some history: there was no 09A public and active in the late 80's or 90's. The emergence of O9A was a mid'ish 2010's phenomena.

While the O9A has a history from the 1970's, there was a long period of no one being interested until TOB, or someone, found the texts and got the thing going.

It wasn't a hibernation or reemergence, the O9A was abandoned and forgotten for a long time.
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They do say in their own texts that there may only be a few people who attempt and succeed in a decade. The O9A gives no praise to anyone, even having completed the 7 fold way. You could live the O9A way of life for years with zero contact with any other sinister practitioners. TempelovBlood was run more like an actual temple, with grades and an actual physical presence, which probably just brought about a lot of the "Dreccs" living in the United States.
 
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Starre & Ruine said:
Just some history: there was no 09A public and active in the late 80's or 90's. The emergence of O9A was a mid'ish 2010's phenomena.

While the O9A has a history from the 1970's, there was a long period of no one being interested until TOB, or someone, found the texts and got the thing going.

It wasn't a hibernation or reemergence, the O9A was abandoned and forgotten for a long time.
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Uhm. Lux Fer published all of their works during the 90s. They were the most popular late 80s to 96. The 70s it was the whole Neo pagan celtic druidic revival. There were dozens of different orders like ONA in the UK. The tale says that some Duke was the original "Anton Long". The Temple of the Sun were elite Anglos, then you have peasant Noctulains and lesbian camlad or Rounwytha.
And fuckin Michael Ford(that dude from black funeral) was trying to proclaimed himself the outer representative in the 90s until it got too political for him.
Are you talking about the "secret" manuscripts that were leaked around 2012?
You can't abandon a thought form that is not even physical lmao.

If only people could abandon giving their energy to paying taxes and other useless abstractions that are not even real.
The stock market is a more evil form of sorcerery. Is not even real and people could chose to abandon it like ONA. yet, they even grow tumors worrying about it and the economy too.
 
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AWD's 27th disbandment, pinky promise its for real this time. Probably has nothing to do with the ongoing cases...
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Terrorist groups do this shit all the time when they're down in the dirt and beaten down. Only to come back again as a new name but the same exact group of retards when they finally recruit more retards. Only for this to happen again.

The middle east is the poster child of this happening all the time.
 
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The middle east is the poster child of this happening all the time.
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The overlap between Salafi Jihadis and National Socialists is quite wide. When I was active in National Socialist circles, there was a big admiration towards the Islamic State in particular. The thought was that if a tiny group of radicals could take over an array of countries, then National Socialists, who have a wider following could do the same thing. "White Jihad" is fundamental to what now is "Terrorgram". The belief that white radicals should be brave enough to die for their cause. I don't actually think without the Islamic State and Al-Qaeda there'd be nearly as many "Right-Wing" terrorists.
 
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Sieg1888 said:
The overlap between Salafi Jihadis and National Socialists is quite wide. When I was active in National Socialist circles, there was a big admiration towards the Islamic State in particular. The thought was that if a tiny group of radicals could take over an array of countries, then National Socialists, who have a wider following could do the same thing. "White Jihad" is fundamental to what now is "Terrorgram". The belief that white radicals should be brave enough to die for their cause. I don't actually think without the Islamic State and Al-Qaeda there'd be nearly as many "Right-Wing" terrorists.
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From my own studying the whole nazi terrorism thing is dying down yet again anyways and has been for a while for the same reasons. Anyone with half a brain cell ends up leaving, dying, or goes to prison. While all that's left are dumb retards too stupid to run a Burger King competently. We saw the same thing decades ago when all the leaders of the nazi radicals started either getting shot by their own guys, going to prison, died, or simply just left to live their own lives.

ISIS on the Islamist side became so big and effective a decade ago because it was run by very intelligent people. Mostly scholars and ex-Iraqi military generals. Through either US assassinations, betrayals, or them leaving ISIS. ISIS is now just a joke group run by massive retards who can barely run a few villages in the desert. Al-Qaeda is also a dead group due to Osama Bin Laden getting killed and the others ending up in Gitmo and the replacements being retarded.
 
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From my own studying the whole nazi terrorism thing is dying down yet again anyways
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National Socialist terrorism was always based on lone wolves though. I think the whole Atomwaffen arc was an enigma. Even James Mason never really supported the Atomwaffen Division. Atomwaffen was completely contrary to Siege, and when the American Futurist did a livestream with him, he told all the people in the chat not to join any "waffens" or "kriegs" (paraphrasing). When I was deep into Terrorgram, I'm pretty convinced it was bigger than ever, despite not having a physical presence like Atomwaffen or the Sonnenkrieg Division. I can only imagine it's grown ten fold since then. The problem is that people like me in the past never joined any groups or Telegram groupchats, so I was unknown to any anti-fascists or state agencies that I know of. I can only imagine there were thousands of people like me back then, and definitely more now. It only really ends in more people like Peyton Gendron, who was definitely a victim to Terrorgram.
 
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Sieg1888 said:
The overlap between Salafi Jihadis and National Socialists is quite wide. When I was active in National Socialist circles, there was a big admiration towards the Islamic State in particular. The thought was that if a tiny group of radicals could take over an array of countries, then National Socialists, who have a wider following could do the same thing. "White Jihad" is fundamental to what now is "Terrorgram". The belief that white radicals should be brave enough to die for their cause. I don't actually think without the Islamic State and Al-Qaeda there'd be nearly as many "Right-Wing" terrorists.
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Atomwaffen Italy chapter is arrested, allegedly a member fought in the Palestinian Lions Den group and another was a bomb building PLO member. The one struggle shit became real.

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Finnish Atomwaffen have terrorist charges dismissed, suspended sentence for firearms and explosives. Just lol. Well, I guess if you want to be a nazi terrorist, the Nordic countries are the place to be.


Well, while not Atomwaffen group, Rusich is ("allegedly") tied to ONA so I guess we can cover it. The second in command of Rusich went to meet his buddies in Finland and Finnish cops were like "Umm..you know we have an EU wide arrest warrant for you". Now he's facing life in prison for war crimes in Ukraine. Truly a 60iq moment by Petrovsky.
 
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