US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Edgy But Dull]

COVID really highlighted the separation from reality these people live in. It revealed the truth that too many in our society are addicted to deference to authority. Benjamin Franklin would be sickened by our modern society who clamor so for perceived safety and trust their liberty in the hands of unelected bureaucrats they'll never know.

It also showed who are the "true believers" that would eagerly report others to said authorities for not following absurd draconian laws. While it's one thing to be such a sheep that you're eager to submit to authority, it's pure soviet horror to see people report on their friends and families for gathering for a child's birthday party.

Oh, it shouldn't go unnoticed that Trump flipped a lot of blue counties in CA to red two weeks ago.

However, I personally do not see CA flipping red in a single election cycle (if it ever does become a red state again, that is). If Kamala is going to become governor of CA, then she best be planning to do it sooner than later.

California is likely never going to fully flip red again. As long as Los Angeles is allowed to keep cheating in elections, nothing will ever change. They are STILL counting ballots in the 45th district to steal a House seat from the Republicans. California also has a bunch of different factions that refuse to vote anything other than blue. You've got entire counties mostly populated by NIMBY liberals that never see the consequences of the policies they vote for. There's also those that managed to land a high paying job, usually through extreme nepotism or DEI shit, and they think the economy is doing fantastic since they're so disconnected from reality. Even a lot of the "right wingers" in California are conservative in name only and if you threaten to take away their illegal field workers, they will quickly vote blue.

 

[Dr J]

It's not like he ever forced anyone to act like a fucking lunatic.

I dunno he has managed to drive quite a lot of people mad

 

[YarrBlueballs]

if it ever does become a red state again, that is

With the Latino vote moving further and further away, it's only a matter of time before Cali becomes a swing state. The cost of Democrat policies has always been a security risk, but that's been relatively alleviated by traditional migration patterns, until recently when the cartels have basically ran roughshod over the South West. Latinas will eventually break from leftism when their kids end up shot by MS13. Normal economic migrants are increasingly distrustful/hate lefties (IE like Cubans and Venezuelans) and are voting Republican in increasing numbers. Mexicans in general look to be growing increasing tired of the general BS and have started to catch onto the fact they're being used as defacto slave labor.

The economy really is the biggest sell. Everyone wants a good economy in the U.S. or else what was the point of the pain, dehydration and hunger, the deaths on the trails and murders by the coyotes, of the 3/4ths of girls being raped, all of the tragedy that was achieved on the way here?

This is why the lefties automatically started calling racism/sexism/ect about latinos, freaking the fuck out, because everyone knows Regan was right that they're Republican but just don't know it yet.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

California, New York and Massachusetts need to stay blue, and Republicans need to create policies that self deport people there from their own states.
Republicans in California need to move to Nevada and Arizona.

 

[TheClappening]

Speaking of California, I was looking at the election map, at least according to AP.

Back in 2020, Biden was 63.5% / 11.1 million. Orange man got 34.3% / 6 million.

With 94% reporting, California has Kamala with 58.8% / 8.9 million. Orange Man has 38.1% / 5.8 million.

That's shocking to me. Trump had roughly the same amount of votes as he did in 2020, but the Democrats lost over 2 million votes. I'm sure there's he specter of fraud, but why commit resources to rigging a state that will always give you blue?

Did CA dems just have Kamala fatigue and stayed home while Trump supporters, even knowing it was just a symbolic gesture, still showed up? CA Dems fled CA to other states while CA Republicans stuck around?

 

[Gehenna]

Speaking of California, I was looking at the election map, at least according to AP.

Back in 2020, Biden was 63.5% / 11.1 million. Orange man got 34.3% / 6 million.

With 94% reporting, California has Kamala with 58.8% / 8.9 million. Orange Man has 38.1% / 5.8 million.

That's shocking to me. Trump had roughly the same amount of votes as he did in 2020, but the Democrats lost over 2 million votes. I'm sure there's he specter of fraud, but why commit resources to rigging a state that will always give you blue?

Did CA dems just have Kamala fatigue and stayed home while Trump supporters, even knowing it was just a symbolic gesture, still showed up? CA Dems fled CA to other states while CA Republicans stuck around?

Those 2 million were 'legitimate' under regulations put up due to covid. The spike in votes by millions for Democrats was, in many ways, legitimate and real. The universal mail in voting gave an easy way for their very, very lazy voters to vote.


Biden's 81 million votes -is- mostly legitimate.


Where the fuckery was, was all in the swing states. And even then not by much. Think tens of maybe even up to 200 thousand votes. And they used the mail-in-voting boons and the sudden flood of voters to hide the fraud among the real noise.

Addition: To compare like to like, compare Washington in 2020 to 2024

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_Washington_(state)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election_in_Washington_(state)

Yes yes, wikipedia I know, but we care about the totals.

They are almost spot on for eachother.

Why does this matter? Because Washington is Vote By Mail -only-. And the state that had Vote By Mail to begin with... has the same results. 2020 is largely an outlier for the totals because VBM makes lazy voters vote. Hence the millions of voters disappearing in states where it was suddenly harder again. That VBM is also easier to hide fraud in to push close races... was very much intentional.

 

[Betonhaus]

Those 2 million were 'legitimate' under regulations put up due to covid. The spike in votes by millions for Democrats was, in many ways, legitimate and real. The universal mail in voting gave an easy way for their very, very lazy voters to vote.

Those super lazy voters are unlikely to be informed voters, who know enough about the political landscape to be invested in the outcome.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

Voting with your feet is an option:

 

[Betonhaus]

Voting with your feet is an option:
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Unless America gets weaned off Chinese crap California will still be a major trade hub, isn't that a big part of the state's income?

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Voting with your feet is an option:
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Not if they come after you federally. That's why republicans should fight like no tomorrow because Dems have proven to not give a shit about rules and only care about domination....legally or morally. Doesn't matter how.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

Unless America gets weaned off Chinese crap California will still be a major trade hub, isn't that a big part of the state's income?

This map is a forecast of Electoral College votes. California is on track to lose four of these votes because inflows out of the state. California's biggest problem is housing is too expensive, and this is pushing people out of the state, Macroeconomic policy like that doesn't matter when its a struggle to even get by there, for the average person, unless you're poor enough to quality for government benefits i.g. illegals.
The map is problematic, for Democrats, because if they lose these votes even winning the "blue wall" won't get them to 270.

 

[Edgy But Dull]

Those 2 million were 'legitimate' under regulations put up due to covid. The spike in votes by millions for Democrats was, in many ways, legitimate and real. The universal mail in voting gave an easy way for their very, very lazy voters to vote.


Biden's 81 million votes -is- mostly legitimate.

That doesn't track because California changed their voting laws in 2021 so that every registered voter would be mailed a ballot. So California is a vote by mail state and the boost from COVID because of the whole mandatory mail in ballot system has been in place since then.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

Not if they come after you federally. That's why republicans should fight like no tomorrow because Dems have proven to not give a shit about rules and only care about domination....legally or morally. Doesn't matter how.

This doesn't exclude the use of helicopters and unmarked vans in Portland, Just sayin', there's a lot the avearge person can do since those roles don't have unlimited spots, ya know.

 

[Space Faring Marsupial]

Voting with your feet is an option:
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Just reminds me of how much I wish I could move to somewhere with better freshwater fishing.

 

[Gehenna]

This map is a forecast of Electoral College votes. California is on track to lose four of these votes because inflows out of the state. California's biggest problem is housing is too expensive, and this is pushing people out of the state, Macroeconomic policy like that doesn't matter when its a struggle to even get by there, for the average person, unless you're poor enough to quality for government benefits i.g. illegals.
The map is problematic, for Democrats, because if they lose these votes even winning the "blue wall" won't get them to 270.

Not just cali, that is a bad forcast all around.

-12 EVs for Blue States
+10 EVs for Red States
And
+2 for Swing States?

That means before -any- swing states come into play the election sits at 214D-229R

Republicans would only need to pick up 41, which....

Nevada - 6
Wisconsin - 10
Arizona - 12
Michigan - 15
North Carolina - 17
Georgia - 17
Pennsylvania - 18


Republicans would need to pick up any two of the bottom -four-, then need to pick up either WI or AZ, NV is they pick up GA and PA.

They could lose MI and WI -and- PA, and still come out with a win.

 

[Gehenna]

That doesn't track because California changed their voting laws in 2021 so that every registered voter would be mailed a ballot. So California is a vote by mail state and the boost from COVID because of the whole mandatory mail in ballot system has been in place since then.

https://www.ocfelections.com/vote-by-mail

They would need to make a new request, it is not automatic. At least not in Orange County. Not sure the specifics of Cali law but their website doesn't say anything about it being automatically sent to you, though some cursory googling says this is a thing in some counties.

 

[Disc]

Oh stop this sanitizing bullshit on me, January 6th was one thing, and one thing only, a bunch of assmad faggots who tried to disrupt an election process all because their candidate lost and he told them go fuck with the government.

The entire MAGA movement shot themselves in the foot on that day, they were lucky that the democrats sucked so much at their job that the majority of Americans considered orange man as the better option, imagine how much stronger the red wave would have been if they DIDN'T have the moniker of "insurrectionist" on them.

That's... my point? That the democrats lost because they didn't do their jobs. The people who kept running with Muh Jan 6 were the dems, but they were doing everything else so poorly that people decided they'd rather take the election deniers than go with the morons.

Taking your stance as written, it's literally "The republicans wanted to overturn an election, and everyone decided they would have been better off if they did."

 

[ToroidalBoat]

How likely is it that "globohomo" Biden administration will start a war with Russia before Trump takes office?

 

[Edgy But Dull]

https://www.ocfelections.com/vote-by-mail

They would need to make a new request, it is not automatic. At least not in Orange County. Not sure the specifics of Cali law but their website doesn't say anything about it being automatically sent to you, though some cursory googling says this is a thing in some counties.

September 27th 2021:

https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/california-vote-by-mail-permanent-gavin-newsom/

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SACRAMENTO (CBS13) — Gov. Gavin Newsom has made California's universal voting by mail system for permanent.


The governor signed Assembly Bill 37 into law on Monday. The bill means every registered California voter will get their ballot mailed to them before a statewide election.


Proponents have been pushing for the law to allow voters more freedom to cast their ballots as well as increase participation.


"As states across our country continue to enact undemocratic voter suppression laws, California is increasing voter access, expanding voting options and bolstering elections integrity and transparency," Newsom said in a statement upon signing the bill.


California mailed a ballot to all registered voters ahead of the 2020 General Election, citing the need to expand accessibility amid the COVID-19 pandemic.


Voters were again mailed ballots ahead of the recall election that attempted to remove Newsom from office.


Secretary of State Dr. Shirley Weber noted how vote-by-mail has increased participation in elections.


"Voters like having options for returning their ballot whether by mail, at a secure drop box, a voting center or at a traditional polling station," Weber said in a statement.


AB 37 was passed through the California legislature without any support from Republican lawmakers.


California is the eighth state to now implement a system where all registered voters get a ballot mailed to them.

Assembly Bill 37:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220AB37

(archive)

 

[Disc]

How likely is it that "globohomo" Biden administration will start a war with Russia before Trump takes office?

It'd be absolutely insane, ridiculously ill-advised, blatant warmongering and likely to tank their 2028 chances if they try to start a goddamn war with russia over sour grapes with trump. Even more so if trump manages to end it relatively cleanly.

It is a plan with functionally no chance of helping them and every chance of blowing up in their face in multiple ways.

I give it about a 30% chance of going through.